August 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

Reversing the order of {-vo'}
by mayqel qunenoS 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

kli mailing list 1999.07.19: {tera'vo' Qo'noS vIchegh} I return to Kronos from Earth maj.. Could I write instead: {Qo'noSDaq tera'vo' jIchegh}, with the meaning remaining the same ? qunnoq

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Does {mon} have positive or negative meaning ? Or both ?
by mayqel qunenoS 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

{mon} (v) = smile, grin, sneer, snarl, smirk Looking up these words, I get: grin: smile broadly, especially in an unrestrained manner and with the mouth open sneer: smile in a contemptuous or mocking manner snarl: (of an animal such as a dog) make an aggressive growl with bared teeth smirk: smile in an irritatingly smug, conceited, or silly way smile: form one's features into a pleased, kind, or amused expression, typically with the corners of the mouth turned up and the front teeth exposed Some of the above definitions are positive, and some are negative. So, is the {mon} positive or negative ? qunnoq

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Klingon Word of the Day: Qaj
by Klingon Word of the Day 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, August 11, 2017 Klingon word: Qaj Part of speech: noun Definition: *kradge*, type of animal Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] When did you buy the phone which you now use ?
by mayqel qunenoS 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

ok, thanks ! But there is something else, which I need to ask. SuStel: > *DaH ghogh HablI''e' Dalo'bogh: ghorgh Daje'? * Isn't the object of {Dalo'bogh} the {ghogh HablI''e'} ? And if it isn't the object (case in which it isn't necessary for it to be placed right before the {Dalo'bogh}), instead of {*DaH ghogh HablI''e' Dalo'bogh: ghorgh Daje'?} *could we write {ghogh HablI''e' DaH Dalo'bogh: ghorgh Daje' ?} ? qunnoq On 11 Aug 2017 5:09 pm, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:49 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > All of these are indeed wonderful suggestions, but let me ask you > something. > > Is the original sentence {ghorgh DaH ghogh HablI' Dalo'bogh Daje' ?} grammatically > correct ? > > Can we have side by side {ghorgh} and {DaH} ? This has been the source of > my confusion in the first place. > Why not? You're allowed to use adverbials in relative clauses, and {ghorgh} goes at the beginning of the main sentence. It may or may not be awkward but I see no reason it would be ungrammatical. _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Are arabic numerals canon ?
by mayqel qunenoS 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

> loSmaH jav vI' Soch loS 'uj 'ab meH > instead of 16.74 {loSmaH jav} is 16 ? Isn't it 46 ? qunnoq On 11 Aug 2017 5:43 pm, "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy(a)alcaco.net> wrote: On Aug 11, 2017, at 10:15 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun(a)gmail.com> wrote: ghunchu'wI': > The Bird of Prey poster is rife with numbers. All of them are > spelled out in Klingon. When you say "spelled out in klingon", you mean that they are written in pIqaD ? No, i mean they are spelled out using words instead of numerals. For example: loSmaH jav vI' Soch loS 'uj 'ab meH instead of 16.74, which is how the numbers on the poster are written in the English sentences. -- ghunchu'wI' _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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When did you buy the phone which you now use ?
by mayqel qunenoS 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

I was wondering whether we can pack into a single klingon sentence, the question: "When did you buy the phone, which you now use ?" If we translated it exactly, then perhaps we would have: {ghorgh DaH ghogh HablI' Dalo'bogh Daje' ?} But the existence, side-by-side of {ghorgh} and {DaH}, results in an awkward sentence. The only solution I can think of, is omitting the {DaH} and placing a {-taH} on the {lo'} like this: {ghorgh ghogh HablI' Dalo'taHbogh Daje' ?} But would there be another way to do this ? qunnoq

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You think I was kidding ?
by mayqel qunenoS 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

'op rep ret, qaStaHvIS latlh QIn ghom, jIghItlh: tlhIngan Hol ghItlhchugh Qunna', vaj tlhIngan Holvetlh vIlajQo'. mu'meyvam vIghItlhtaHvIS jIqID ; 'e' boHar'a' ? HIja', Sujangchugh vaj Sumuj ! 'ej vItna' wItu'meH maghel'eghnIS: tlhIngan Hol pup ghItlhlaH'a' Qunna' ? HIja', majang Hoch. 'a latlh mu'tlhegh wIqelnIS: tlhIngan canon qonlaH'a' Qunna' ? 'ej DaH, ghobe', majangnIS.. qatlh ? tlhIngan Hol chenmoHwI' ghaHbe'mo' Qunna''e'. canon qonlaH tlhIngan Hol chenmoHwI' neH. qunnoq

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It's the cinnamon that makes the difference
by mayqel qunenoS 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

Hoch jaj, wa'maH cha' Qoy'lu'pu'DI', yaHwIjDaq espresso qa'vIn vIvut. 'ej vIvutDI', qa'vIntvetlhDaq Su'ghar cha' baghneQHom vIchel. maj.. 'a qen QoghwIjDaq nargh qech 'IH. jIghel'egh.. qatlh qa'vInDaq cinnamon vIchelbe' ? vaj, qechvammo' cinnamon vIchel, 'ej Do' jImerchoH ! 'ej jImertaHvIS jIQuch je. *cinnamon*mo' povqu' qa'vIn. 'ej latlh ngoD potlh vIghItlhnIS.. *cinnamon*mo' jIQongnIS 'e' jIQub. 'a, Do' qaSbe' wanI'vam, 'ej cinnamon espresso vItlhutlhpu'DI' SIbI' jIbItchoH ! qunnoq

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qo' qepDaq chaH'a' thlIngan Hol jatlhwI''e'
by kechpaja＠comcast.net 10 Aug '17

10 Aug '17

SuwomI'Daq {Helsinki}Daq qo' qepDaq ghaH 'Iv? naDev ghaH 'angghal'e' 'e' vISov. naDev chaH'a' latlh? tlhIngan Hol vIjatlh vIneH. SKI: Who's at WorldCon? -SapIr Sent from my iPhone

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Multiple nouns with {-Daq} in a row
by mayqel qunenoS 10 Aug '17

10 Aug '17

Is this acceptable ? {Qo'noSDaq, SoSlI' juHDaq, vutpa'Daq, qajatlh qaneH} At Kronos, at your mother's house, at the kitchen, I told you that I want you. I can't see any reason why it would be wrong, but I want to make certain. qunnoq

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