August 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

New Klingon Beer
by Russ Perry Jr. 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

There was some talk on here in the past about the "Warnog" beer; now there's a Klingon Imperial Porter, made by Schmaltz Brewing. Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_alphabets (I don't know my pIqaD), it looks like... > bIjatlh 'e' yImev; yItlhutlh! Here are some links about the beer, and a (bigger) pic of the label... http://shmaltzbrewing.com/Beer/klingon-imperial-porter/ https://untappd.com/user/paultfoe/checkin/488803468 -- //*==================================================================++ || Russ Perry Jr 2175 S Tonne Dr #114 Arlington Heights IL 60005 || || 847-952-9729 VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR! russperryjr(a)sbcglobal.net || ++==================================================================*//

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be-verbs used as adjectives and the {-chu'}
by mayqel qunenoS 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

Could someone be so kind as to remind me, whether we can add the {-chu'} to a be-verb which is used as an adjective ? For example can we say {chab 'eychu'} for "a perfectly delicious pie" ? qunnoq

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QImmey *gyros* ghap
by mayqel qunenoS 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

wejmaH tup ret, yaHwIjvo' juHwIjDaq vIcheghtaHvIS, jIghel'eghtaH.. ramvam, nuq vISop ? gyros vIje'; wa'DIch 'e' vInab. 'a jIDoy'qu'mo', gyros vutwI'Daq vIjaHlaHbe'. vaj, tagha', cha' QImmey vImIQ. gyros vIje'laHbe'mo', jIquv'eghmoHHa'.. qunnoq

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Klingon Word of the Day: gho 'Impey'
by Klingon Word of the Day 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, August 08, 2017 Klingon word: gho 'Impey' Part of speech: noun Definition: cone (lit: circle pyramid) Source: Marc Okrand at European qepHom 1/25/2014 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Janeway HoD, *goddess*na' Daratlh
by mayqel qunenoS 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

‘op wen, yuQjIjQa’ HoD Sar vInuDtaHvIS, jIghItlh: pIqarD HoD jIvoqQo’; ‘ej ghIq jIghItlh, qIrq HoD *sisko* HoD je vIvoqQo’ je. ‘ej vuDwIj vItobtaHvIS, ‘ej HoDpu’ vorgh boptaHvIS mu’meywIj, jImeq.. QapmeH HoD, bIvnISlaH. ‘a reH *prime directive* ‘emDaq So’ pIqard. wa’ Doch neH qaSmoHlaH: Dargh tlhutlhlaH. ‘ej jIQochbe’.. Dochvam qaSmoHlaHchu’. maw’ba’ qIrq, ‘ej *sisko*’e’.. ‘o *sisko*, *sisko*.. HoD SoH ‘e’ DaHarchu’’a’ ? Duj ‘ornISlaH HoD, qar’a’ ? ‘a *sisko*, nuq Da’or ? logh Hop Hut tengchaH ? nuqDaq jaH tengchaHvam ? wa’ Doch neH qaSmoHlaH *sisko*; public relations. ‘ej qabbe’ ! ghobe’, qabbe'.. ‘a public relations neH DaqaSmoHlaHchugh, vaj SoHvaD HoD DapongQo’.. maj. ‘op wen, QInvetlh wa'DIch vIghItlhtaHvIs, jIjatlh: meq law’mo’, HoD povchu’ ghaH *janeway*'e' neH. ‘a DaH, meqmeyvam vIghItlhqa’be’. vaj, qatlh QInvam vighItlh ? qen, star trek discovery trailer vIbej. ‘ej yuQjIjQa’ cha’ HoD vItu’. SIbI’ jIbelchoHHa’. janeway HoD rurlaHbe’ba’ HoDpu’vam. janeway DaleghDI’, SIbI’ ghaH lubopbogh Doch law’’e’ DatlhojlaH. nom wuqlaH janeway, HoSna’ ghaj janeway, wIHchoHlaH janeway, naHchoHlaH janeway.. DI'onmeyvammo', nIteb, jogh naQ jeylaH janeway. ‘a wa’ ‘oH janeway bopbogh ngoD potlhchu’’e’: not, not, not bup ! ‘ej meqvammo', beqDaj toDmeH Hoch qaSqangmoH, vabDot yInDaj jegh. Do’Ha’, janeway HoD rurlaHbe’ star trek HoDpu’.. pagh chaH ! ghe’’orDaq janeway HoD vItlha’qang. latlh HoDpu’’e’ ? pagh DaqDaq chaH vItlha’qang.. qunnoq

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Can the {'ar} be used on its own ?
by mayqel qunenoS 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

Can the {'ar} be used on its own, or is it absolutely necessary to always follow a noun ? And because it is almost certain, that someone will say "if it doesn't follow a noun, then how will the reader know how many of what/who you inquire about ?". Then I will reply saying, that it is possible for the context of the text to specify what it is what we are inquiring about, without repeating it again. If for instance, the text speaks of a number of officers defying orders, then can we say: {HeQQo' 'ar ?} How many refused to comply ? qunnoq

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] 'Iv with type 5 noun suffixes
by mayqel qunenoS 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

I think that as far as the {'Iv} is concerned, it is ok for it to bear type 5 suffixes. As far as the {nuq} is concerned, although I don't think there would be any ambiguity if someone for instance wrote {nuqmo'}, neverthless I wouldn't go on adding type 5 suffixes, for no other reason than that it just looks too weird. Although, admittedly, the temptation of writing {nuqmo'}, {nuqvaD} and/or {nuqvo'}, is just too great. Perhaps, I won't be able to resist.. Sov 'Iv ? 'agh poH neH.. poH neH.. qunnoq qunnoq On 7 Aug 2017 5:44 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer(a)uchicago.edu> wrote: I know of no examples of {'Iv} taking any suffix, except for: DevwI' ghaH 'Iv'e'? (STID (deleted line]) This line was deleted from the final movie, however, so may not count as official (i.e. published) canon. I checked the paq'batlh and surprisingly could only find a single example of {'Iv} (for those collecting them): batlh SaqIH qanra' puqloDpu' 'ej 'Iv ghaH nuvvam'e' AFAIK the only other example of a question word with any suffix is: Sojvetlh 'oH nuq'e' What is that food? (PK) Note that this is also with {-'e'} and may just be another example of marking the subject of a "to be" sentence rather than permitting the wider use of noun suffixes on question words. OTOH... (TKD 6.4 p.69): The word for "where?", {nuqDaq}, is actually {nuq} "what?" followed by the suffix {-Daq} "locative" ... --Voragh -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS Can the {'Iv} bear type 5 noun suffixes ? Would the following be correct ? 'Ivmo' bISaQ ? Because of who/whom did you cry ? 'IvvaD Soj Davutta' ? For who/whom did you prepare the food ? 'Ivvo' bIqet ? Away from who/whom do you run ? 'IvDaq vIghro' Danob ? At who/whom will you give the cat ? qama' tlhabmoH 'Iv'e' ? Who (emphatic) released the prisoner ? (I don't know the difference between who/whom, so I wrote both as possible explanations) qunnoq _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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neH after nouns with type 5 suffixes
by mayqel qunenoS 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

Can we have {neH} after nouns with type 5 suffixes ? For example: juHlIjDaq neH pegh vI'aghlaH Only at your house I'm able to reveal the secret qunnoq

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Klingon Word of the Day: quvHa'ghach
by Klingon Word of the Day 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, August 07, 2017 Klingon word: quvHa'ghach Part of speech: noun Definition: dishonor Source: Klingon Christmas Carol This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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'Iv with type 5 noun suffixes
by mayqel qunenoS 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

Can the {'Iv} bear type 5 noun suffixes ? Would the following be correct ? 'Ivmo' bISaQ ? Because of who/whom did you cry ? 'IvvaD Soj Davutta' ? For who/whom did you prepare the food ? 'Ivvo' bIqet ? Away from who/whom do you run ? 'IvDaq vIghro' Danob ? At who/whom will you give the cat ? qama' tlhabmoH 'Iv'e' ? Who (emphatic) released the prisoner ? (I don't know the difference between who/whom, so I wrote both as possible explanations) qunnoq

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