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Klingon Word of the Day: pargh
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Jan '20

13 Jan '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, April 07, 2018 Klingon word: pargh Part of speech: verb Definition: be synthetic, artificial Source: qepHom 2017 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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“bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD” vImugh 'e' vInIDqa'
by Daniel Dadap 18 Nov '19

18 Nov '19

(muboQqu'mo' SuStel vItlho'qu'!) mungwIj vengHom Dab loD qan, bIQ'a' lengchu'pu' ghaH net Sov. maHvaD yInDaj lut nuja', bIQ qoD Dujmey DaqDaq qaS Hoch. vaj bIQ'a'Daq jul wIghoS, bIQ SuD wISampu'DI' mamevpu' 'ej yu'egh bIngDaq maHtaH, bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD wIDabchu'. bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD wIDabchu'taH maH, bIQ'a'Daq majaH, DujmajDaq maHtaH. bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD wIDabchu'taH maH, bIQ'a'Daq majaH, DujmajDaq maHtaH. matay' maH, juppu'ma' je, jIlpu'na'ma' chaH latlh law''e'. 'ej vogh QoQ muchchoHlu'pu'… [ QoQ muchlu'taH ] bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD wIDabchu'taH maH, bIQ'a'Daq majaH, DujmajDaq maHtaH. bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD wIDabchu'taH maH, bIQ'a'Daq majaH, DujmajDaq maHtaH. [ tujqu'choH QuQ. ] [ nughoS jagh. ] [ chay' jura? ] [ Qu'vatlh! ] [ batlh maHegh! ] [ cha yIghuS! ] [ So'wI' yIchu'Ha'! ] [ baH! ] 'ej ngeDtaH- [ mayIntaHvIS ] -vIS yInmeymaj [ ngeDbej Hoch ], 'utbogh Dochmey, bIH [ naDev SaHbej ] Hoch DIghaj [ 'utbogh Doch ]. SuD bIQ'a' [ SuD bIQ'a' ], 'ej SuD chal je [ SuD chal je ], bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD- [ Dujmaj SuDDaq ] -Daq maHegh… [ maHeghbej! Ha'! pebomqa'! ] bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD wIDabchu'taH maH, bIQ'a'Daq majaH, DujmajDaq maHtaH. bIQ qoD Dujmaj SuD wIDabchu'taH maH, bIQ'a'Daq majaH, DujmajDaq maHtaH. [ chaq 'o'megh luHutlhlaH tera' bommey, 'ach tlhIngan bommo' 'oH bomvam'e', 'o'meghqoq wIcherghQo'. vaj, rIn bomvam. pItlh. ] Notes about text in square brackets if anybody wants to record this (I might at some point, but I invite anybody else to do it if they get to it first): For [ QoQ muchlu'taH ], this could perhaps be the brass band in the Terran version of this song, or it could be something like an excerpt from 'aqtu' mellota' je. The dialog lifted from “Conversational Klingon” should be played one phrase per measure in the interlude between the second refrain and the final verse, timed with the bass drum beats. It would ideally be the original audio from the audiobook, heavily distorted to make it sound like its being spoken through a pipe, but if the pacing of the original audio isn’t suitable, or if there’s some other reason it doesn’t sound good, then it can be replaced with a new performance, with suitable audio distortion. The text interleaved into the lines of the final verse should be performed with a distortion similar to the text in the interlude. It takes the place of the “echo” in the last verse of the Terran version of the song. Rather than repeating the refrain ad infinitum and fading out, as with the Terran version, this song should have a definitive end, either with an abrupt cutoff, or an orchestra hit or something. The bit about an 'o'megh can be recited either after the music has finished, or while the instrumental track continues without vocals, to be followed by the end of the music. Or that part can be ignored, and the song can fade out with an 'o'meghqoq just like the Terran version.

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Klingon Word of the Day: QaH
by Klingon Word of the Day 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, November 03, 2018 Klingon word: QaH Part of speech: verb Definition: help, aid Source: TKD-A (184 KE, 188 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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DISvam chabal tetlh
by qurgh lungqIj 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

Over the past few years, for the qep'a', we have collected a wish list of words that we give to Dr. Okrand so that he can ask Maltz for them. In the past this has been a semi-informal process with suggestions being collected on this list, on Facebook, on Discord, etc compiled together, and then voted on by KLI members and guests. This year, thanks to the amazing work by De'nIl (Daniel Dadap), we are launching a web based chabal tetlh that runs year round. On the chabal tetlh web page KLI members and guests can suggest new words, and vote on each others suggestions. Then, when the qep'a' comes around, we will simply pull the top words from the list. DaH yISuch 'ej mu'mey tIchup: https://www.kli.org/chabal/ The number of words that can be suggested and the number of votes that can be cast per word is based on membership level within the KLI. Guests can suggest 2 words, while members can suggest 10, 15, or 20 depending on the length of their membership. Guests can cast 1 vote per word, normal members can cast 2 votes, while lifetime members can cast 3 votes for their continued support (all of these amounts are subject to change based on feedback). Words that are down voted far enough become blacklisted, and that suggestion will be returned. We also plan to return suggestions when a word is chosen. Since this system is new, there may be some bugs. We are also planning to add more features going forward. If you do find any errors or have suggestions please post them on the system's github page: https://github.com/dadap/chabal-tetlh/issues. If you are a programmer and would like to help, email me off list. qurgh

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New words from "Miniatur Wunderland"
by Lieven L. Litaer 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

Hi there, intended as an April fools joke which is not a joke (so somehow a Schrödinger's joke?), the world's largest model railway in Germany has published their promotional video in Klingon. See the video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ovl2G2jsYM and on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=338690640114293 For future reference, details and new words are listed in the Klingon Language wiki: http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/MiniaturWunderland These are the words: {ghI'neS} n. "Guinness", Klingon spelling for the company name {Hamburgh} n. "Hamburg" (city)" {men} vt. "have an area of..." {mu'neqo} n. "Monaco" {nu'} va. "be particularly small" {SIqenDInavya'} n. "Scandinavia" {tIHmey} n. "railroad tracks" [based on tIH "shaft of speer"] {tlharwIl Duj} n. "railroad car" [part of a train] {'ewro} n. "Euro" [European currency] The most interesting word certainly is {nu'}. To show the difference: a {targhHom} is just a small targ, but a {targh nu'} can only refer to a "toy targ". Okrand's words: ------ There's no noun Maltz is aware of like "miniature" (small model or version of something). {machqu'} is fine, but if you want to avoid it, you could use the verb {nu'} which means something like "be particularly small" and is often used of things that are smaller than the usual or expected size. In general, things that are {nu'} are smaller than those that are {mach} or even {machqu'} — but there's no hard line or specific rule. If/when it's appropriate, you could also make use of {-Hom}. ------ After I asked for atoms, this was the answer: ------- You might use it for atoms (if the context is appropriate). It wouldn't mean "smaller than expected" in that case — only "tiny" or something like that. ------ So roughly, {nu'} is even smaller than small. "mini". -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.net

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Is the given meaning definite ?
by mayqel qunen'oS 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

There are some klingon words, which's given english definitions don't match the direct translation of the klingon word. Is it imperative, that when using such words, we need to be thinking of the given english definition, or can we use the same klingon word to express what the klingon word actually means ? To illustrate my obscure point, I will use the verb Say'qu'moH and an ancient cat. So, lets say we just spent a fortune to acquire an ancient cat, and the first thing we do is to make it very clean.. {vIghro' tIQ wIje'ta'bogh wISay'qu'moH} we make the ancient cat which we have bought very clean Right ? But the problem is, that Say'qu'moH has been given as "to sterilize". So, although the klingon says "we make the cat very clean", the Ca'NoN translation says "we sterilize the cat". And because I can *feel* someone ready to say that "to sterilize" is to "make something very clean", I will rush to say YOU ARE WRONG !!! To sterilize means to make something germ-free. Making something very clean, means making it very clean.. To be sterile is to be very clean, to be very clean isn't to be sterile. So, the question is: Can we use Say'qu'moH to mean what it actually means i.e. "to make something very clean", or since it has been given as "to sterilize", it can only mean "sterilize" ? ~ changan qIj

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According to Matthew chapter 1 (quotations punctuated)
by mayqel qunen'oS 04 Jun '19

04 Jun '19

Some time ago, when I started translating the Gospel of Matthew, I didn't know how to punctuate quotations. So, now that I think I know, I decided before proceeding with the fourth chapter, to repost the first three chapters, with the quotations punctuated. I decided to punctuate quotations by using >>> quotation <<<, because I like >>> quotation <<< more than <<< quotation >>>. And I decided to use triple angled brackets, because in a long passage they stand out more than single ones. However.. There are parts, where within a quotation there are other quotations, e.g, when a parable is spoken, and inside that parable there are dialogues. I decided that for there, I will use single angle brackets i.e. > quotation <. Anyways, I've decided all the above, and bIQ'a'Daq 'etlh vIvo'pu'. jIwuq rIntaH. And after all this klingon crap, here is the first chapter.. 'ay' wa'. 1 *jesus christ* *david* puqloD; *david* *abraham* puqloD. *jesus christ* no' paq. 2 *isaac* boghmoH *abraham*, *jacob* boghmoH *isaac*, *judah* loDnI'pu'Daj je boghmoH *jacob*, 3 *perez*, *zerah* (*tamar* ngan) je boghmoH *judah*, *hezron* boghmoH *perez*, *ram* boghmoH *hezron*, 4 *amminadab* boghmoH *ram*, *nahshon* boghmoH *amminadab*, *salmon* boghmoH *nahshon*, 5 *boaz* (*rahab* ngan) boghmoH *salmon*, *obed* (*ruth* ngan) boghmoH *boaz*, *jesse* boghmoH *obed*, 6 *david* ta' boghmoH *jesse*. *solomon* luboghmoH *david* ta' *uriah* be'nal je, 7 *rehoboam* boghmoH *solomon*, *abijah* boghmoH *rehoboam*, *asa* boghmoH *abijah*, 8 *jehoshaphat* boghmoH *asa*, *joram* boghmoH *jehoshaphat*, *uzziah* boghmoH *joram*, 9 *jotham* boghmoH *uzziah*, *ahaz* boghmoH *jotham*, *hezekiah* boghmoH *ahaz*, 10 *manasseh* boghmoH *hezekiah*, *amon* boghmoH *manasseh*, *josiah* boghmoH *amon*, 11 *babylon* luDabtaHvIS *jew* (pa' chaH lughImlu'ta'mo') *jechoniah* loDnI'pu'Daj je boghmoH *josiah*. 12 *babylon*vo' cheghpu'DI' *jew*pu', *shealtiel* boghmoH *jechoniah*, *zerubbabel* boghmoH *shealtiel*, 13 *abiud* boghmoH *zerubbabel*, *eliakim* boghmoH *abiud*, *azor* boghmoH *eliakim*, 14 *sadoc* boghmoH *azor*, *achim* boghmoH *sadoc*, *eliud* boghmoH *achim*, 15 *eleazar* boghmoH *eliud*, *matthan* boghmoH *eleazar*, *jacob* boghmoH *matthan*, 16 *joseph* (*mary* loDnal) boghmoH *jacob*, yatlhtaHvIS *mary* *jesus* qeng; *jesus*vaD *christ* ponglu'. 17 bogh *abraham*, ghIq qaS wa'maH loS puq poH; qaStaHvIS puq poH wa'maH loSDIch, bogh *david*. bogh *david*, ghIq qaS wa'maH loS puq poH; qaStaHvIS puq poH wa'maH loSDIch, *babylon*Daq *jew* lughImlu'. *babylon*Daq *jew* lughImlu', ghIq qaS wa'maH loS puq poH; qaStaHvIS puq poH wa'maH loSDIch, bogh *jesus*. 18 chay' bogh *jesus christ* ? *joseph* nayta'DI' *jesus christ* SoS (*mary*), 'ej juH qach rap luDabchoHpa', *mary* yatlhchoHmoH Qun qa' quvqu'. 19 pung ghajmo' *joseph* (*mary* loDnal), *mary* nuS neHbe'. vaj Qub: >>> *mary* vImejmoH, 'ej pegh wanI'vam; Sov pagh. <<< 20 nabvam nabtaH; 'a najtaHvIS, ghaHDaq nargh joH'a' *angel* 'ej jatlh: >>> *joseph*, *david* puqloD, *mary* (be'nallI') yIlajvIpQo'; Qun qa' quvqu'mo' yatlh. 21 bogh wa' puqloD, SoSDaj ghaH *mary*'e' 'ej puqloDDajvaD *jesus* yIpong. yembogh nuvpu'Daj toDmo' puqvam, ghaHvaD *jesus* yIpong. <<< 22 joH'a'mo' 'op mu' jatlhta' wa' tuch rItwI', 'ej mu'meyvam toblu'meH qaS wanI'mey vorgh. jatlhta' tuch rItwI'vam: 23 >>> pelegh ! chorDajDaq yatlhchoH ngaghbe'taHwI', 'ej bogh wa' puqloD; puqloDvamvaD *emmanuel* ponglu'. <<< nutlhej Qun, 'e' maq pongvam. 24 vemDI' *joseph*, ra'ta'mo' joH'a' *angel*, be'nalDaj laj, 25 'ej *mary* ngaghbe' *joseph*. wa' jaj bogh ghubDaQ ghaHbogh *mary* puqloD'e'. 'ej puqloDvamvaD *jesus* pong. ~ m. qunen'oS

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Okrand about KlingonCD
by Lieven L. Litaer 04 Jun '19

04 Jun '19

Here's a short video of Marc Okrand telling a bit about when he made the recordings for the Language Lab parts for "Star Trek: Klingon" CD game of 1996 (usually referred to as "KlingonCD"). It does not contain anything new, but it's still nice to listen to him telling these stories: https://youtu.be/isEr-9xeuCs -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/KlingonCD

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Hol Sarraj tlhIn tIDel
by Daniel Dadap 03 Jun '19

03 Jun '19

'op wen «qabpaq»Daq be' loD je Segh mu'tay' rIchlu'taHvIS loQ Hol SarDaj tlhIn[1] Delpu' ghunchu'wI'. mu' puS Delpu' neH 'a vIvuQlu'bej. Hol Sarmey tlhIn bojal'a' je tlhIH? tIDel! loQ Hol SarwIj tlhIn pab mu'tay' je vIDel (not jIQummeH vIlo', mISmoHlaHmo'): * DuHbej «-taHvIS», 'a DuH je «-lI'vIS». ghantoH: «yu'muD vInaQmoHlI'vIS Hov leng vIbejtaH.» * cha' pongmey ghaj ngutlh «'»: «qaghwI'», «'ay» je. * «ghaH/chaH» DalaH je Hol lo'laHbe'bogh Dep'e'. «'oH/bIH» Da yInbe'bogh Doch neH. * ghuQ muchlu'DI', wanI' Del wot «bom». * 'ay' lugherlu'DI' chenchugh «mIr» vaj «tlharwIl» 'oH ngIq 'ay''e'. ghantoH: HaSta much mIr 'oH Hov leng'e'. Hoch Hogh tlharwIl chu' muchlu'. * «naHwI'» ghaH Ha'DIbaH SopQo'bogh ghot'e'. «naHchu'wI'» ghaH Ha'DIbaH, nIm, QIm, Hoch Ha'DIbaH Hal Soj je SopQo'bogh ghot'e'. (mu'wIj ru' lo'lu'chugh «naHchu'wI'» jIH.) * «'Inglan Hol» 'oH DIvI' Hol''e'. * wa' SepDaq boghpu'chugh vay' 'ej latlh Sep DabchoHchugh vaj «novpu'wI'» ghaH. * latlh ngoDHommey vIlIjpu'bogh je [1] DIvI' Hol mu' «idiolect» lo'pu'

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Expressing "neutral gender"
by mayqel qunen'oS 02 Jun '19

02 Jun '19

I don't suppose, someone can come up with a descent way to say "this alien is of neutral gender", right ? Because all I can think of, is crap like "this alien isn't male, and isn't female". Anyways, thought I should ask, in case someone could think of something better. Though I seriously doubt it.. But I *do* hope someone proves me wrong.. Which is something I seriously doubt too.. I'll just shut up now. ~ m. qunen'oS klingon has a complete vocabulary

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