November 2019 - tlhIngan-Hol

pseudo-Klingon words from the paq'batlh
by De'vID 27 May '22

27 May '22

What do people think about the following Klingon "words" from paq'batlh? They don't appear in the main (Klingon-language) text, but are used in otherwise English sentences in the introduction or footnotes. xxii. {Huy'reH} "aria style" xxii, 62, 87. {cha'ang} "chorus style" xvii, xxii, xxxv. {Qich'lut} "narrator style" xix. {paq'jachchu} "Book of the Perfect Scream" {Huy'reH} and {cha'ang}, at least, seem to follow proper modern {tlhIngan Hol} phonology. {Qich'lut} has a lower-cased "i" and an out-of-place {qaghwI'}. {paq'jachchu} has that apostrophe after {paq} and a missing {qaghwI'} at the end (if the {jachchu} part is indeed the verb {jachchu'}, as the English translation seems to indicate). On p.xxx, it is explicitly stated that the name {paq'batlh} is in {no' Hol} and that the apostrophe may be a clue to some missing grammatical element. Of course, the book also has sections named {paq'yav}, {paq'raD}, and {paq'QIH}. So {paq'jachchu} is probably just spelled weirdly for the same reason. Should {Huy'reH} and {cha'ang} be accepted as canon Klingon words as-is? In other words, would you expect them in a new words list? (In particular, I am asking if they should be listed in {boQwI'}.) The word {Qich'lut} is spelled that way all three times it appears in the book. I notice that in previous discussions on this mailing list, 'IQqu' and Voragh have both spelled it as {QIch lut} (capital-I, no apostrophe, space between the two words). Should {QIch lut} be accepted as the "modern" spelling for the purpose of look-up in word lists? -- De'vID

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paq'batlh errata?
by De'vID 27 Aug '20

27 Aug '20

Did anyone ever put together a list of errata for the {paq'batlh}? I'm about to send off my own list to the publisher. But if anyone else has compiled a list, please let me know in case I missed something. -- De'vID

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Pronouns for irregular plurals
by Hugh Son puqloD 16 Aug '20

16 Aug '20

As I understand it, irregular plurals like {cha}, {ngop}, {negh}, and {no'} are treated as grammatically singular. But does that extend to pronouns? The following sentences don’t bother me that much: {ngop wISay'moH} {Dulegh'a' negh?} {no' luqaw} {cha yIghuS!} But these seem downright weird: {nuqDaq 'oH ngop'e'?} {'Iv ghaH no'ra''e'?} {cha 'oH'a'?} {negh ghaHlaw'.} Do we have canonical evidence of pronouns used to stand in for irregular plural nouns?

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Klingon Word of the Day: pargh
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Jan '20

13 Jan '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, April 07, 2018 Klingon word: pargh Part of speech: verb Definition: be synthetic, artificial Source: qepHom 2017 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'aQvoH
by Klingon Word of the Day 02 Dec '19

02 Dec '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, November 28, 2019 Klingon word: 'aQvoH Part of speech: noun Definition: act of watching over a fallen warrior's body Source: qep'a' 24 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: wab poD
by Klingon Word of the Day 02 Dec '19

02 Dec '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, November 30, 2019 Klingon word: wab poD Part of speech: noun Definition: consonant Source: qep'a' 26 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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-Daq and motion verbs
by Jeffrey Clark 30 Nov '19

30 Nov '19

A question came up in conversation today about the use of -Daq with object prefixes on verbs of motion. Would a construction like: ‘enteprey’Daq bIghHa’ vIjaH Be valid, and would it have any difference of meaning compared to: ‘wnteprey bIghHa’ vIjaH —jevreH Sent from my iPhone

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Klingon Word of the Day: Suverya'
by Klingon Word of the Day 29 Nov '19

29 Nov '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, November 29, 2019 Klingon word: Suverya' Part of speech: noun Definition: Sweden Source: TalkNow - Learn Klingon!, revealed 30 September 2011 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: Hagh
by Klingon Word of the Day 27 Nov '19

27 Nov '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, November 27, 2019 Klingon word: Hagh Part of speech: verb Definition: laugh Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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qovIj ngavyaw' relative size
by mayqel qunen'oS 27 Nov '19

27 Nov '19

Suppose you have a full-grown (or is it fully-grown ?), german shepherd. Would you characterize it as {qovIj} or a {ngavyaw'} ? And lets say, you have a {ngavyaw'} puppy.. Would you characterize it, as a {ngavyaw'} or a {qovIj} ? Or would you play it safe, and say {ngavyaw' ghu} ? And, to take this to the limit.. If you had a {qovIj} which took steroids and grew the size of a small car, how would you say it ? On the contrary, if a {ngavyaw'}, matured chronologically, never attaining the expected size, but remained very small, would you still call it a {ngavyaw'} ? ~ bara'qa'

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