February 2019 - tlhIngan-Hol

SaHtaHvIS 'eb..
by mayqel qunen'oS 23 Feb '19

23 Feb '19

DIHIvlaHtaHvIS DIHIvnIS; jatlh wa' tlhIngan, qaStaHvIS Hov leng jav lut. potlhqu' mu'meyvam. wa' vIt potlh lu'aghbej: nom mavangqang net poQ. SaHtaHvIS 'eb, mavangqang net poQ. DaH mavangnIS. chaq, jaj veb paSqu', 'ej mamImtaHchugh, vaj tagha' mavangpu'pa' matorpu'. ~ gho'at qIj

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Asking "why do I need to be there ?"
by mayqel qunen'oS 23 Feb '19

23 Feb '19

If I want to ask "why do I need to be there ?", what do I say ? {qatlh pa' jIHnIS} or {qatlh pa' jIHnIStaH} ? ~ gho'at qIj

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Klingon Word of the Day: pIn
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Feb '19

23 Feb '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, February 23, 2019 Klingon word: pIn Part of speech: noun Definition: boss, expert, authority (slang) Source: KGT (223 KE, 234 EK, 241 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Asking "why do I need to be there ?"
by Christa Hansberry 23 Feb '19

23 Feb '19

Is that kinda like "ser" and "estar" in Spanish? "Eso es un gato" (That is a cat) vs. "El gato está en la casa" (The cat is in the house) But if I were to ask "Where is the cat?" in Klingon, I'd say "nuqDaq 'oH(taH?) vIghro''e'?", rather than "nuqDaq SaH vIghro'?" And the answer would likely be "juHDaq 'oHtaH vIghro''e'."... at least, that's my understanding of the matter :-) -QISta' On Feb 22, 2019 3:55 PM, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin(a)gmail.com> wrote: Daniel Dadap <daniel(a)dadap.net> schrieb am Fr., 22. Feb. 2019, 23:26: > > > Usually when we use pronouns as copulas in Klingon for “to be” sentences, > we’re really talking about identity (tlhIngan maH; raS 'oH; HoD ghaH; yIH > bIH), which is not the case in this sentence. “Why do I need to be there” > is really asking why my presence is required, which is why in my Klingon > suggestions I used jISaHnIS and vIpoQlu'. > Chinese also distinguishes between the "identity" and "existence" senses of "to be". The former is 是 ("I am a person") and the latter is 在 ("I am here"). -- De'vID > _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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Out of curiosity..
by mayqel qunen'oS 23 Feb '19

23 Feb '19

Often we talk about "what if.." one day it was allowed to write klingon using lower case. Some would like that, and others not. Out of curiosity though.. if we *did* write in lower case, how would we distinguish between the q and Q ? ~ gho'at qIj

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Expressing "because of this additional"
by mayqel qunen'oS 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

I want to say "because of this additional reason". From the two choices: {latlhvam meqmo'} {latlh meqvammo'} Which is the correct one ? ~ gho'at qIj

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Klingon Word of the Day: jI'ev
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 26, 2018 Klingon word: jI'ev Part of speech: noun Definition: handle, knob, doorknob Source: qep'a' 23 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: toQDuj
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, February 22, 2019 Klingon word: toQDuj Part of speech: noun Definition: Bird of Prey (ship, vessel) Source: ADD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Why not law'wI'pu' ?
by mayqel qunenoS 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

jot = be calm jotwI' = someone who is calm Qup = young QupwI' = someone who is young law' = be numerous, be many law'wI'pu' = those who are many So, we could say: Har law'wI'pu' many believe *Something* tells me that it can't be correct But that *something* can't figure out the why ~ gho'at

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gaps in the KLI mailing list archive
by De'vID 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

I just discovered that messages sent to " tlhingan-hol(a)stodi.digitalkingdom.org" (rather than the official " tlhIngan-Hol(a)kli.org" address) are not archived. For whatever reason, when someone replies to this mailing list, the address is sometimes changed to the digitalkingdom.org one. Entire subthreads are missing from the KLI archive because subsequent replies sent to this address also disappear into the memory hole. Based on my investigation, it seems that this happens to specific people, which suggests that their email client is (mis)configured to ignore the "Reply-To" address, which is always set to "tlhIngan-Hol(a)kli.org" for messages sent from the mailing list. For whatever reason, some subsequent replies *reset* the address back to " tlhIngan-Hol(a)kli.org", which are again archived. I did a search in my mailbox for the query " to:tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org from:me" and I had sent about two dozen messages to this address. I'm not one of the people whose email clients ignore the "Reply-To", so all of my unarchived messages are replies to threads where the email address had already been changed. Unfortunately, the threads I replied to include (among other things) reconstructions of the Klingon dialogue from the first two Abrams Star Trek movies, which I presume people might be interested in being able to find in the archive. I would recommend to check your email client to see if your replies are going to the "tlhIngan-Hol(a)kli.org" address, and to check your outbox to see if you had been sending messages to " tlhingan-hol(a)stodi.digitalkingdom.org" instead. Some of you are sending your replies *exclusively* to this address, so that you are basically invisible in the KLI mailing list archive. (I mean, if that's what you want, that's fine, but I'm guessing this is not your intention.) -- De'vID

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