September 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

qep'a' cha'maH vaghDIch -- save the date!
by Alan Anderson 22 Sep '17

22 Sep '17

What: qep'a' cha'maH vaghDIch (the twenty-fifth Great Meeting of the Klingon Language Institute) When: July 19-21, 2018 Where: Indianapolis, Indiana A block of guest rooms and a large meeting space have been set aside for the conference at the Hyatt Place Indianapolis Airport. Details will follow early next week. The qep'a' web pages will also be published at that time, with links to the hotel reservation web site's special event pricing and registration for the conference itself. [This announcement is being posted simultaneously to the Klingon Language Institute's page on Facebook and to the tlhIngan-Hol email discussion forum.]

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Star Trek: Discovery
by Michael Roney, Jr. 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

I don't think that the 30 day rule applies with television or movies. I do think that we should hold off discussion until each market gets the episode to avoid spoilers. ~naHQun ~Michael Roney, Jr. Sent from my Palm Prē null

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Klingon Word of the Day: jatyIn
by Klingon Word of the Day 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, September 21, 2017 Klingon word: jatyIn Part of speech: noun Definition: spiritual possession Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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HoS'a' qab Hurgh
by mayqel qunenoS 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

tlhIngan Hol vIqeqmeH, HoS'a' qab Hurgh lubop mu'wIj, qaStaHvIS QInmey tlheghvam. DaH, wa' Doch vISovbej: naDev, Hov noHmey SaH nuv puSqu' neH. 'ej chaq Hov noHmey vISaHbe' je. 'a tlhIngan Hol vISaHmo', 'ej jIqeqnISmo', QInmey tlheghvam vIchenmoH. qunnoq

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Nouns in apposition
by mayqel qunenoS 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

SuStel, there is something I would like to ask you, with regards to nouns in apposition. At another thread we discussed the following: Aurelie: > yaSvaD qama'vaD taj nobmoH HoD jIH: > If I saw this sentence without knowing the > intented meaning, chances are I would > understand, that the {yaSvaD} and {qama'vaD} > are nouns in apposition. > So, I would eventually understand, that "the > captain gave the knife for the officer and the > prisoner". SuStel: > I agree that apposition might be a strong > interpretation, but the translation would be > this: the captain makes the officer, the > prisoner, give the knife. Apposition means the > two noun phrases are equated with each > other. They are not conjoined with an and. > Here, with apposition, the officer is a prisoner. > If the captain made two separate people, an > officer and a prisoner, give knives, the > sentence would be yaSvaD qama'vaD je taj > nobmoH HoD. > By the way, watch out with your translation. > The captain doesn't give the knife to an > officer or a prisoner, he makes them give > knives to someone unspecified or general. So, now let me ask you.. Suppose I write the sentence: {Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq qajatlh, latlh be' vImuSHa'} "At Qo'noS at your mother's house I told you, that I love another woman". Do you agree with the above translation, or is it, that due to the absence of a {je} after the {juHDaq}, the meaning becomes "at your mother's house which is Qo'noS I told you, that I love another woman" ? qunnoq

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Klingon Word of the Day: Qagh
by Klingon Word of the Day 20 Sep '17

20 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, September 20, 2017 Klingon word: Qagh Part of speech: verb Definition: to make a mistake Source: TKD (103 KE, 131 EK, 142 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Qej
by mayqel qunenoS 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

And let us not forget the {joq} issue too.. qunnoq On Sep 19, 2017 8:18 PM, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Lieven <levinius(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Am 18.09.2017 um 19:13 schrieb nIqolay Q:> Would it be possible to also > include *ngIq* on the wishlist?> can be analyzed a little more, but it'd > still be nice to finally have > clarification. > > What exactly is the question? > > I have no problem with {ngIq}, but I haven't followed the recent thread > about it either. What precisely it means and how it's used. For instance, how to tell/express the difference between using it to mean "one single X" (as in *ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej tIqDu' lel* "In one single move, he removed the hearts") vs. "each X individually one by one" (as in *ngIq nuv luHoH* "they killed the warriors one by one"), or if there even is a difference at all between those meanings. Also, what other concepts can it be used to express, what other contexts it can be used in, does it mean anything if it's on its own and not part of a noun-noun phrase, etc. Like I said, it's had a lot more canon examples than *vabDot*, and I suspect that the usage analysis that various Klingonists have done based on that canon is going to be mostly correct. But it would still be nice to know more specifically (and canonically) from the source, rather than trying to backsolve its meaning from a few sentences. _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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Klingon Word of the Day: Qej
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, September 16, 2017 Klingon word: Qej Part of speech: verb Definition: cherish, value Source: Klingon Monopoly This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: puH yIQ
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, September 19, 2017 Klingon word: puH yIQ Part of speech: noun Definition: swamp, wetlands Source: qep'a' 24 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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tlhoy Duj 'IH 'oH nuq'e' ?
by mayqel qunenoS 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

Duj law'qu 'agh Hov leng. 'ej pIj, vIbeghtaHvIS jISIvbe'laHbe'.. jIghelbe''eghlaHbe'. Hov leng Dujmey'e', tlhoy 'IH 'oH nuq'e' ? 'IH'a' 'enterpray' ? 'IH'a' vorcha' Duj ? chaq 'IH'a' tlhIngan tlharghDuj ? 'a jIjangtaHvIS, reH mu'mey rap vIjatlh: Hov leng Dujmey'e', romuluS warbird valdore 'IH law' Hoch 'IH puS. qunnoq

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