September 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

Klingon Word of the Day: ghoS
by Klingon Word of the Day 30 Sep '17

30 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, September 30, 2017 Klingon word: ghoS Part of speech: verb Definition: thrust Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Saint George yIn
by mayqel qunenoS 30 Sep '17

30 Sep '17

qaStaHvIS QIn tlheghvam, george st yIn lubop wanI''e' vIghItlh. vaj.. cappadociaDaq, qaStaHvIS christ bov cho'wI' tera' DIS pagh-cha'-soch-vagh, bogh george st, 'ej christianpu' chaH vavDaj'e' SoSDaj'e' je. 'a yInDaj DIS wa'maHDIch SIQtaHvIS george st, christ temQo'mo' vavDaj, vavDaj HoHlu'. ngugh, palestiniangan ghaHmo' SoSDaj'e', 'ej pa' yer ghajmo', palestine lujaH george st SoSDaj je. tagha', qaSDI' qoSDaj wa'maH chorghDIch, roman mangghom muv. roman mangghom muvDI', Qup george st; 'a, Qu'meyDaj turlaHchu', 'ej luHo' Hoch. vaj, meqvammo', nom numlu', patlhmey nIv chav, count moj, 'ej naDqu' diocletian voDleH. qunnoq

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Klingon Word of the Day: qeD
by Klingon Word of the Day 30 Sep '17

30 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, September 28, 2017 Klingon word: qeD Part of speech: verb Definition: vacate Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] If there ever was a war..
by mayqel qunenoS 30 Sep '17

30 Sep '17

jIQoS. po, QIn wa'DIch vIngeH, 'a qaStaHvIS jaj delivery report vIHevbe'mo', ghIq cha'logh vIngeH. tagha', ram paw wej QIn.. qunnoq On Sep 30, 2017 02:36, "SuStel" <sustel(a)trimboli.name> wrote: > On 9/29/2017 7:25 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: > > I'm sending this again, because the previous two attempts weren't followed > by the usual delivery report.. > > tlhIngan Hol Qaw'lu'meH 'op poH pIq noH taghlu' net jalchugh, vaj > che'ronDaq vIjaHmo', star trek discovery all klingon trailer SoQ vIQoy > vIneH ! > > If there ever was a war in order to destroy klingon, before I go to than > war, I would want to hear the speech of the star trek discovery all klingon > trailer. > > 'ej trailervam lubopmo' mu'wIj.. > and speaking of this trailer.. > > chaHvaD may' luqotlhbogh wInobmeH DaH maQamjaj ! > > wejlogh vIHevpu'. > > -- > SuStelhttp://trimboli.name > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > >

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If there ever was a war..
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Sep '17

29 Sep '17

tlhIngan Hol Qaw'lu'meH 'op poH pIq noH taghlu' net jalchugh, vaj che'ronDaq vIjaHmo', star trek discovery all klingon trailer SoQ vIQoy vIneH ! If there ever was a war in order to destroy klingon, before I go to than war, I would want to hear the speech of the star trek discovery all klingon trailer. 'ej trailervam lubopmo' mu'wIj.. and speaking of this trailer.. chaHvaD may' luqotlhbogh wInobmeH DaH Qamjaj ! qunnoq

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] DSC Klingon Trailer transcription (NOT offlist)
by SuStel 29 Sep '17

29 Sep '17

Whatever the transcript says, I'm pretty sure I hear *wInobmeH.* On 9/29/2017 3:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: > Unless someone intended it as a prefix trick, but the prefix trick > can't be used in such a way. > > qunnoq > > On Sep 29, 2017 22:04, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun(a)gmail.com > <mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > may' luqotlhbogh DInobmeH > > Shouldn't this be {wInobmeH} ? Or is the intended meaning "in > order to give the battles" ? But again, this can't be the case, > since we have a {lu-} on the {qotlhbogh}. > > qunnoq > > On Sep 29, 2017 21:55, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin(a)gmail.com > <mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I don't think it matters that this isn't offlist, since the > trailer is public. > > The makers of that video cut off the wrong part of the first > sentence. They apparently intended to cut out the reference to > Donatu V, but what they did was they cut out the *temporally* > corresponding part (at the end) of the sentence rather than > the *semantically* corresponding part (at the beginning). If > they had just listened to their cut they'd have realised that > the sentence starts with {Do'natu vagh...} So frustrating, > though I doubt it can be fixed now that it's been released. > > Here's the transcript: > > We have become complacent in the time since we last battled > [the Federation at Donatu V]. > {Do'natu vaghDaq DIvI' wIlulpu' 'a qaStaHvIS poH [veb > mayonchoHchu'pu']} > > They come to destroy our individuality. > {mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS chaH} > > Great leaders, look to the stars... > {DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH...} > > Our destiny has arrived. > {pawpu' Sanmaj.} > > Fire! > {baH!} > > Shall we rise up together and give them the fight they deserve? > {may' luqotlhbogh DInobmeH matay'taHvIS mavangrup'a'?} > > Remain Klingon! > {tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!} > > > On Sep 28, 2017 16:21, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer(a)uchicago.edu > <mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: > > Unfortunately my computer can’t play sounds. Have you > transcribed the Klingon for the rest of that YouTube > trailer? From what’s been posted on the list so far I have: > > "We have become complacent in the time since we last battled." > > *mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS chaH. * > > "They come to destroy our individuality." > > *DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH* > > "Great leaders, look to the stars… > > *… [---] Sanmaj *(?)** > > … our destiny has arrived." > > *baH!* [I assume} > > "Fire!" [various battle scenes] > > > "Shall we rise up together and give them the fight they > deserve?" > * > tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!* > "Remain Klingon!" > > Thanks, > > Voragh > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > *From:*De'vID > > Get to practising, then. The line you're listening for > is {DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH}, subtitled "Great > leaders, look to the stars". > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZEQVw3uV9M > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZEQVw3uV9M> > > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org <mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > <http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org> > > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vung
by SuStel 29 Sep '17

29 Sep '17

On 9/29/2017 2:49 PM, nIqolay Q wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:10 PM, SuStel <sustel(a)trimboli.name > <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote: > > I wouldn't assume that *vungwI'* is the noun form of /hurricane/ > any more than I would assume that *SISwI'* is the noun form of > /rain./ > > I'm not sure the distinction is quite the same. Rain, as a noun and > verb, and presumably *SIS* also, refers mainly to the precipitation, > whereas *SISwI'*, if it meant anything, would probably refer to the > rainclouds, which have rain as one of their effects but are considered > a distinct thing from rain itself. Whereas in the case of hurricanes, > the English noun refers to both the weather conditions (rain, wind, > storm surge, the stuff associated with *vung*) brought about by the > weather system, as well as the weather system itself. Let me rephrase to make it clear what I meant. I wouldn't assume *vungwI'* is the noun meaning /hurricane /any more than I would assume that *SISwI'* is the noun meaning /rain event./ > Instead of trying to turn it into a noun, use it as a subjectless > verb. > > *tugh */Florida/*Daq vung; ghoSlI' */Irma./ > > That works fine in a lot of cases, e.g. *naDev qen vung*, /"A > hurricane came through here recently."/ But sometimes it's more > convenient to be able to refer to hurricanes as discrete things, like > if you want to refer to their size or intensity or track. Yep, it would be convenient. But they're verbs, and that's how the language works. Find a way around it. *qen naDev vung. vaghvatlh qelI'qam juch wanI'. wej 'oH SeghDaj'e'. vIlo'rIDa ghoSlI'.* -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vung
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Sep '17

29 Sep '17

I still don't understand..{qay'wI'} for "something that is a problem" is wrong ? qunnoq On Sep 29, 2017 20:50, "SuStel" <sustel(a)trimboli.name> wrote: > On 9/29/2017 1:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: > > ghunchu'wI': > > toH. «qay'wI'» DalaDDI', nuq Dayaj? > > I would understand "something that is a problem". Am I wrong ? > > *vungwI'** something that hurricanes.* > > -- > SuStelhttp://trimboli.name > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > >

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] reH Human leghDI' vIghro'
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Sep '17

29 Sep '17

ghunchu'wI': > toy'wI' chaH Human'e', 'e' Qub tera' vIghro'. hahaha ! jIQochbe' ! And I liked a lot the {tera' vIghro'}. I will be using it from now on, in order to differentiate from the tlhIngan vIghro'. qunnoq On Sep 29, 2017 20:32, "Alan Anderson" <qunchuy(a)alcaco.net> wrote: > toy'wI' chaH Human'e', 'e' Qub tera' vIghro'. > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:41 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Human woch law' vIghro' woch puS; >> >> 'ej, Human retlhDaq Qamchugh vIghro', vaj vIghro' woch law'be' Human 'uS >> botlh woch puSbe'. >> >> vaj, reH, Human retlhDaq QamDI' vIghro', wa' Doch Qub: >> >> tInqu'wI' ghaH Human'e'. >> >> cats see humans as giants >> >> qunnoq >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tlhIngan-Hol mailing list >> tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org >> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > >

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vung
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Sep '17

29 Sep '17

SuStel: > It's not wrong. It's just not using Klingon in its strongest way. ok, I understand ! thank you for explaining this ! qunnoq On Sep 29, 2017 21:05, "SuStel" <sustel(a)trimboli.name> wrote: > On 9/29/2017 1:53 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: > > I still don't understand..{qay'wI'} for "something that is a problem" is > wrong ? > > qunnoq > > On Sep 29, 2017 20:50, "SuStel" <sustel(a)trimboli.name> wrote: > >> On 9/29/2017 1:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: >> >> ghunchu'wI': >> > toH. «qay'wI'» DalaDDI', nuq Dayaj? >> >> I would understand "something that is a problem". Am I wrong ? >> >> *vungwI'** something that hurricanes.* >> > No, *qay'wI'* is *something that is a problem.* But you were having > trouble understanding *vungwI',* so ghunchu'wI' compared it to *qay'wI',* > which you use all the time. > > Personally, I wouldn't use *qay'wI'* as often as you do, and wouldn't at > all for *hurricane.* I wouldn't say *qay'wI' vIghaj* or *qay'wI' tu'lu';* > I'd say *qay' vay'.* I WOULD use *qay'wI'* in a sentence like *qay'wI' > yIngu'** Identify the thing that is a problem.* But once that had been > identified, I would at most use it as an adjectival verb: *jolvoy' qay' > vItI'** I fix the problematical transporter ionizer unit.* Klingon likes > precision. > > It's not wrong. It's just not using Klingon in its strongest way. > > -- > SuStelhttp://trimboli.name > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > >

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