September 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

paSlogh
by mayqel qunenoS 22 Jan '19

22 Jan '19

The klingon word for "socks" is {paSlogh}. Is this word to be treated as being grammatically singular, and is it possible to say "one sock" in klingon ? As far as I know, it is unknown if a singular form exists. qunnoq

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghul
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Aug '18

22 Aug '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, August 16, 2017 Klingon word: ghul Part of speech: noun Definition: bump, protuberance Source: qep'a' 24 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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elephant
by Lieven 07 Feb '18

07 Feb '18

For the translation of the intro of a famous German children TV show I have asked Marc Okrand how I'd best name their main characters which are a mouse and an elephant. Okrand talked to Maltz and replied with the following. It's not really a new word, but at least some canon spelling of a terran animal. --------------------------------------- Lieven — I think {Qa'Hom} is okay for "mouse." And Maltz wasn't aware of any native Klingon elephant-like animal. So go with a Klingon version of Federation Standard. How about {'e'levan}? - Marc --------------------------------------- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net

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new words qepHom 2016 (nature, forging, materials)
by Lieven 06 Dec '17

06 Dec '17

At this year's qepHom, we received lots of new words. Some of them were wishes by qepHom attendees and others. Others were used in Andrew Miller's Art presentation in a Museum of Pittsburgh, which happened on the same weekend. Marc Okrand gave me the list in english alphabetical order, so for reading convenience I re-arranged them in a somehow logical order. These are terms about plants, forging, and materials. ---begin quote--- branch (of a tree) bartIq fog, mist vI'laS garden Du'Hom ivy (Terran) tera' 'arDeH ivy-like plant 'arDeH mud, clay, putty DabqI' trunk (of tree) Qechjem'a' cast (cast metal) (v.) Qu forge (metal) (v.) mItlh foundry (n.) baS laSvargh furnace (n.) vIncha' mold (for casting) (n.) QumeH ngaSwI' welded (together) (v.) pet wire (n.) baS SIrgh magnet (n.) peQnagh bronze jey' Sorpuq chalk 'o'roy' chromium velSo' concrete tungyen glass 'al'on stainless steel velSo' 'uSqan steel ghav 'uSqan tin jey' wax req ---end quote--- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net

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New Beginner's Grammarian?
by John R. Harness 06 Nov '17

06 Nov '17

Hi all -- it has been more than a year since I was named Beginner's Grammarian. I have barely done any of that job because there has been nearly no KLBC traffic. In any case I'd like to formally step down in case anyone else would like to take the position. However, it seems to me that there is so rarely traffic that comes under the BG's purview that the position might remain vacant without consequence. Thanks, John -- Socialist Alternative <http://www.socialistalternative.org/> Klingon Language Institute <http://www.kli.org/>

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Are arabic numerals canon ?
by mayqel qunenoS 13 Oct '17

13 Oct '17

It just came to me.. Are arabic numerals (i.e. 1,2,3..) canon ? Would klingons use them in their sentences ? Do they appear in sentences written by 'oqranD ? qunnoq

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DSC Klingon Trailer transcription (NOT offlist)
by De'vID 05 Oct '17

05 Oct '17

I don't think it matters that this isn't offlist, since the trailer is public. The makers of that video cut off the wrong part of the first sentence. They apparently intended to cut out the reference to Donatu V, but what they did was they cut out the *temporally* corresponding part (at the end) of the sentence rather than the *semantically* corresponding part (at the beginning). If they had just listened to their cut they'd have realised that the sentence starts with {Do'natu vagh...} So frustrating, though I doubt it can be fixed now that it's been released. Here's the transcript: We have become complacent in the time since we last battled [the Federation at Donatu V]. {Do'natu vaghDaq DIvI' wIlulpu' 'a qaStaHvIS poH [veb mayonchoHchu'pu']} They come to destroy our individuality. {mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS chaH} Great leaders, look to the stars... {DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH...} Our destiny has arrived. {pawpu' Sanmaj.} Fire! {baH!} Shall we rise up together and give them the fight they deserve? {may' luqotlhbogh DInobmeH matay'taHvIS mavangrup'a'?} Remain Klingon! {tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!} On Sep 28, 2017 16:21, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer(a)uchicago.edu> wrote: Unfortunately my computer can’t play sounds. Have you transcribed the Klingon for the rest of that YouTube trailer? From what’s been posted on the list so far I have: "We have become complacent in the time since we last battled." *mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS chaH. * "They come to destroy our individuality." *DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH* "Great leaders, look to the stars… *… [---] Sanmaj *(?) … our destiny has arrived." *baH!* [I assume} "Fire!" [various battle scenes] "Shall we rise up together and give them the fight they deserve?" * tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!* "Remain Klingon!" Thanks, Voragh ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------- *From:* De'vID Get to practising, then. The line you're listening for is {DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH}, subtitled "Great leaders, look to the stars". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZEQVw3uV9M

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reH Human leghDI' vIghro'
by mayqel qunenoS 04 Oct '17

04 Oct '17

Human woch law' vIghro' woch puS; 'ej, Human retlhDaq Qamchugh vIghro', vaj vIghro' woch law'be' Human 'uS botlh woch puSbe'. vaj, reH, Human retlhDaq QamDI' vIghro', wa' Doch Qub: tInqu'wI' ghaH Human'e'. cats see humans as giants qunnoq

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Saint George yIn
by mayqel qunenoS 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

qaStaHvIS QIn tlheghvam, george st yIn lubop wanI''e' vIghItlh. vaj.. cappadociaDaq, qaStaHvIS christ bov cho'wI' tera' DIS pagh-cha'-soch-vagh, bogh george st, 'ej christianpu' chaH vavDaj'e' SoSDaj'e' je. 'a yInDaj DIS wa'maHDIch SIQtaHvIS george st, christ temQo'mo' vavDaj, vavDaj HoHlu'. ngugh, palestiniangan ghaHmo' SoSDaj'e', 'ej pa' yer ghajmo', palestine lujaH george st SoSDaj je. tagha', qaSDI' qoSDaj wa'maH chorghDIch, roman mangghom muv. roman mangghom muvDI', Qup george st; 'a, Qu'meyDaj turlaHchu', 'ej luHo' Hoch. vaj, meqvammo', nom numlu', patlhmey nIv chav, count moj, 'ej naDqu' diocletian voDleH. qunnoq

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Is Star Trek: Discovery a new canon category?
by De'vID 02 Oct '17

02 Oct '17

We know that Okrand wasn't directly involved in Star Trek: Discovery, but that the production team went to great lengths and worked with Qov to make the dialogue properly Okrandian Klingon. We haven't seen the result, and maybe some things were edited in post-production and have to be retrofitted (like with the movies). My question is, would you consider the Klingon dialogue, etc., in Star Trek: Discovery to be Okrandian canon? These are the categories of Okrand-related canon that I can think of: 1. Things Okrand wrote or said himself (the books, tapes, interviews in HolQeD, reveals at the qep'a' and qepHom'a') 2. Things done by Klingonists in which Okrand had major involvement (paq'batlh... anything else in this category?) 3. Things done by Klingonists in which Okrand had some involvement (I'm not sure the extent of his involvement in Klingon Christmas Carol? Maybe that belongs in category #2?... TalkNow! Klingon, Festival of the Spoken Nerd) 4. Things done by non-Klingonists but licensed by Paramount/CBS (Keith R.A. DeCandido and a few other authors, the Haynes BoP book) 5. Things done by Klingonists with minimal involvement from Okrand but licensed by Paramount/CBS (Star Trek: Discovery) I guess maybe Star Trek: Discovery is similar to category #3, but it's still in its own category because it's on a STAR TREK TV SHOW, and thus (especially to the world outside of Klingonists) more "official". Are people going to accept sentences from Star Trek: Discovery as canonical Klingon? (For example, no objection if I use sentences from the show as examples in {boQwI'}?) -- De'vID

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