Re: [tlhIngan Hol] 'Iv with type 5 noun suffixes
I think that as far as the {'Iv} is concerned, it is ok for it to bear type 5 suffixes. As far as the {nuq} is concerned, although I don't think there would be any ambiguity if someone for instance wrote {nuqmo'}, neverthless I wouldn't go on adding type 5 suffixes, for no other reason than that it just looks too weird. Although, admittedly, the temptation of writing {nuqmo'}, {nuqvaD} and/or {nuqvo'}, is just too great. Perhaps, I won't be able to resist.. Sov 'Iv ? 'agh poH neH.. poH neH.. qunnoq qunnoq On 7 Aug 2017 5:44 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote: I know of no examples of {'Iv} taking any suffix, except for: DevwI' ghaH 'Iv'e'? (STID (deleted line]) This line was deleted from the final movie, however, so may not count as official (i.e. published) canon. I checked the paq'batlh and surprisingly could only find a single example of {'Iv} (for those collecting them): batlh SaqIH qanra' puqloDpu' 'ej 'Iv ghaH nuvvam'e' AFAIK the only other example of a question word with any suffix is: Sojvetlh 'oH nuq'e' What is that food? (PK) Note that this is also with {-'e'} and may just be another example of marking the subject of a "to be" sentence rather than permitting the wider use of noun suffixes on question words. OTOH... (TKD 6.4 p.69): The word for "where?", {nuqDaq}, is actually {nuq} "what?" followed by the suffix {-Daq} "locative" ... --Voragh -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS Can the {'Iv} bear type 5 noun suffixes ? Would the following be correct ? 'Ivmo' bISaQ ? Because of who/whom did you cry ? 'IvvaD Soj Davutta' ? For who/whom did you prepare the food ? 'Ivvo' bIqet ? Away from who/whom do you run ? 'IvDaq vIghro' Danob ? At who/whom will you give the cat ? qama' tlhabmoH 'Iv'e' ? Who (emphatic) released the prisoner ? (I don't know the difference between who/whom, so I wrote both as possible explanations) qunnoq _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:38 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I think that as far as the {'Iv} is concerned, it is ok for it to bear type 5 suffixes.
As far as the {nuq} is concerned, although I don't think there would be any ambiguity if someone for instance wrote {nuqmo'}, neverthless I wouldn't go on adding type 5 suffixes, for no other reason than that it just looks too weird.
Although, admittedly, the temptation of writing {nuqmo'}, {nuqvaD} and/or {nuqvo'}, is just too great.
Why is it weird? {'Iv} and {nuq} are pronouns. Pronouns take type 5 suffixes all the time. {tlhoy DabuS 'e' vIQub}.
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