June 2016 - tlhIngan-Hol

[tlhIngan-Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: mop
by unknown＠example.com 06 Jun '16

06 Jun '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, June 05, 2016 Klingon word: mop Part of speech: noun Definition: robe Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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[tlhIngan-Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Hoqra'
by unknown＠example.com 05 Jun '16

05 Jun '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, June 03, 2016 Klingon word: Hoqra' Part of speech: noun Definition: tricorder Source: TKD (89 KE, 158 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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[tlhIngan-Hol] Milk and cookies
by mayqel qunenoS 05 Jun '16

05 Jun '16

tlhejchuq 'op Doch.. ghantoHmey : nIm chabHommey je tlhIngan betleH je ghupu' SaQtaHghach je toQDuj nISwI'mey je romuluSnganpu' neHmaH je 'ej latlh Dochmey je.. 'ach ngIq chang'eng wIqelnISbogh tu'lu' ; leng QoQ je 'oH chang'engvam'e'. DaH, chaq cheghel : qatlh chan'engvam wIqelnIS. 'ej tlhIHvaD majang : chang'engvam tlhejmo' wanI' taQ. tlhIHvaD wanI'vam wIDel. maHvaD 'e' yIchaw' ! puH DujDaj 'ortaHvIS vay' 'ej SaD law' qe'lIqam lengtaH, QoQ qab neH SamlaH ; 'a juH qachDaq pawDI', ngugh - SIbI' ! -, QoQ QaQqu' Sambej ! qatlh reH qaStaH wanI'vam ? Sov pagh ! tera' wanI''e' luQIjlaHbe'bogh Hoch nuvpu', 'oHbej wanI'vam'e'. mayqel qun'noQ

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[tlhIngan-Hol] the beauty of Hoch
by mayqel qunenoS 05 Jun '16

05 Jun '16

One of my favourite words - if not my favourite - is {Hoch}. Its versatility and multiple uses always amazes me. So, I will write my understanding of it, and if somewhere I'm wrong, then please do tell me. Hoch nuv = each person Hoch nuvpu' = all persons HochHom chabmey = almost all the pies chab HochHom = almost all (of the) pie And my recent discovery (I read this somewhere at the klingon wiki) : chab Hoch = all the pie I love {Hoch}. It is a work of linguistic art, second only to {-ghach}. mayqel qun'noQ

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[tlhIngan-Hol] In the labyrinth of {-qu'} {-chu'} and {-Ha'}
by mayqel qunenoS 05 Jun '16

05 Jun '16

'op ret, De'wI'maj jIH 'aqroSvo' DaqHom wIlelpu'. some time ago we wanted to remove a small area from the top of our computer's screen. wev rur DaqHomvetlh, 'ej De' Sar cha'. this area was a line, which displayed various information. Qu'vam wIchavmeH, De'wI' mIwvaD weQmoQnaQ wInuDta'. in order to achieve this task, we searched the web for a program. 'ej tagha' De'wI' mIwqoq wISamta'. and eventually a so-called program eventually we found. qatlh {De'wI' mIwqoq} why so-called ? la'laHbe'mo' ! because it was worthless ! De'wI'majvaD wIlo'ta'DI', QapHa'choH De'wI'maj.. as soon as we used it, our computer begun to malfunction.. De'wI'maj *library*Daq, ngIq ta - wa' ta neH - ghItlhHa'mo' De'wI' mIwqoqvam. because this pitiful excuse for a program, erased a single file - just a single file - at our computers library. tagha', QapHa'chu'pu' De'wI'maj.. finally, our computer crashed.. 'ej wItI'meH, wa'DIch qawHaqDaj wIghItlhHa'nIS and in order to repair it, its memory we needed to erase 'ej ghIq wIghunnISqa' and then we needed to reprogram it. why, am I writting these ? there are times, when seemingly insiginificant details one forgets, seriously mess him up. some time ago, I needed to write "I like a lot" ; so I take the verb {parHa'}, and think: "I will just add {-qu'}, and I'm good to go". But instantly, I though "wait a minute ; {-qu'} or {-chu'} ?" and to make things even worst, the even more dangerous question came to mind : "where do I place the {-qu'} or {-chu'} ? before or after the {-Ha'} ?" and this question followed too : "{-qu'} is rover ; if I place it after the {-Ha'}, won't I negate its effect ?" For a few days, these questions plagued me, and I felt the more I considered them, the deeper I was getting in a labyrinth, I could not get out of. Until -finally-, I was left with no choice, but to study again from the beginning the rovers, and the {-chu'} as well. And because I restudied them, I realized that most of these questions, were dead wrong, from the start. Since -Ha', according to tkd, always occurs after the verb, at the word {parHa'}, both -qu' and -chu' (if they are to be placed), they have to be placed after the -Ha'. Now, there is a difference between -qu' and -chu'. the -qu' is emphatic, whereas the -chu' means "clearly/perfectly". So, parHa'qu' means "I like very much', while parHa'chu' means "I perfectly like". If we wrote parHa'chu'qu', then the -qu' would emphasize the "perfectly", and if we wrote parHa'qu'chu' then this would mean "I very much like" with all the "I very much like" taking place to the degree of "perfectly". Also -Ha' isn't negated by the simultaneous presence of -qu' and/or -chu', because they don't have "the-same-yet-opposite-meanings". -Ha' expresses the "undo, do wrongly", while -qu' is an emphatic. And -chu' expresses the "to the perfect degree" So, finally I feel I managed to escape this labyrinth of confusion. At least I hope I did (and if I am wrong somewhere, then please do tell me) ; however it is impressive, how forgetting just a single fact, can throw off balance your entire understanding of things. cpt qunnoq

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[tlhIngan-Hol] Sentence as subject
by mayqel qunenoS 04 Jun '16

04 Jun '16

I remember reading somewhere (I think in the wiki), that sentence as subject is not allowed. However, I can't understand how someone can use a sentence as subject in the first place. Can someone write an example of a sentence as subject, so that I will understand, what someone is supposed to avoid ? thanks qunnoq

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[tlhIngan-Hol] Personal Preferences and use of {HIja'} or {HISlaH}
by qe'San 03 Jun '16

03 Jun '16

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lieven [mailto:levinius@gmx.de] > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 11:39 AM > To: tlhingan-hol(a)stodi.digitalkingdom.org > Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Conversational klingon and the use of {nuq} > > Am 30.05.2016 um 12:27 schrieb mayqel qunenoS: > > the longer a klingon sentence is, the happier I get ! > > That sounds like those people who prefer {HISlaH} over {HIja'} simply because they enjoy knowing another word (since HIja' can also mean "tell me"). Just curious regards other's use of {HISlaH} and {HIja'}. I know there's no difference and correct me if I'm wrong but personally I like {HIja'} and especially with the glottal stop cutting off it's short and sweet well befitting any enthusiastic yes as opposed to a {HISlaH} which I personally prefer for a reluctant yes like I'm saying yes but swearing under my breath as I do so ;-) Do other people just use the one they prefer, randomly use either or some other personal rule of thumb? qe'San aka Jonathan Brown

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[tlhIngan-Hol] Why not michaelsburg ?
by mayqel qunenoS 03 Jun '16

03 Jun '16

qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH.. johannesburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch st petersburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch je qatlh michaelsburg tu'lu'be' ? Sep wIchenmoHta'chugh vaj monDajvaD pong michaelsburg wIlo'bejta'. nugh yab we will add your linguistic distinctiveness to ours resistance is futile

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Re: [tlhIngan-Hol] Personal Preferences and use of {HIja'} or {HISlaH}
by Lawrence M. Schoen 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

Personally, I tend to say HISlaH. I've been doing it for so long, that I no longer recall why I made the conscious choice to go with this instead of HIja' as most others do. The only other speaker whom I can recall using HISlaH as consistently as I do is taD. -- Dr. Lawrence M. Schoen :: author :: publisher :: psychologist :: hypnotist :: klingonist ::: Campbell Award nominee :::: Hugo Award nominee :::: Nebula Award nominee ::: www.lawrencemschoen.com ::: www.papergolem.com ::: www.hypnosis4writers.com

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[tlhIngan-Hol] Second Test
by qurgh lungqIj 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

I've changed the settings for the list so replies to list emails should go to the list (instead of the poster as it is now). When this message arrives, please just click "Reply" (not Reply All) and see if the address is tlhIngan-Hol(a)kli.org. It should be just tlhIngan-Hol(a)kli.org, but I can't tell until someone else sends a message directly to the list (which could be done as a reply to this message). :D qurgh

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