[tlhIngan-Hol] Why not michaelsburg ?
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH.. johannesburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch st petersburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch je qatlh michaelsburg tu'lu'be' ? Sep wIchenmoHta'chugh vaj monDajvaD pong michaelsburg wIlo'bejta'. nugh yab we will add your linguistic distinctiveness to ours resistance is futile
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
'Iv tlhIH?
johannesburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch st petersburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch je
qatlh michaelsburg tu'lu'be' ?
bIghelDI' bImuj. St. Petersburg-Daq qach'a'vetlh tu'lu'chu'.
Sep wIchenmoHta'chugh vaj monDajvaD pong michaelsburg wIlo'bejta'.
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH? -- ghunchu'wI'
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH?
choyajHa'law'.. reH choyajHa'law'. 'ej choyajHa'mo', mujchu' mu'lIj. 'a qay'be'.. qayajmo' choberghchoHmoHlaHbe' ; DaH.. jInguqmo', michaelsburg vIwIv 'e' bIHarlaw'.. 'o bImujchu' ! ghunchu'wI', QIch le' ghaj 'elaDya' mu' michaelsburg. meqvetlhmo' neH, michaelsburg vIwuv. 'IQ.. reH, reH, reH latlhpu' DanoHrup 'ej ghIq DanoHHa'. 'a jIjatlhqa' : qay'be'. tlhIngan HolvaD choqeqmoHmo', jIHvaD bIQaQ. mayqel On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
'Iv tlhIH?
johannesburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch st petersburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch je
qatlh michaelsburg tu'lu'be' ?
bIghelDI' bImuj. St. Petersburg-Daq qach'a'vetlh tu'lu'chu'.
Sep wIchenmoHta'chugh vaj monDajvaD pong michaelsburg wIlo'bejta'.
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH?
-- ghunchu'wI' _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
this :
jInguqmo', michaelsburg vIwIv 'e' bIHarlaw'..
should be :
jInguqmo', michaelsburg vIwIv 'e' DaHarlaw'..
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 7:26 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH?
choyajHa'law'.. reH choyajHa'law'.
'ej choyajHa'mo', mujchu' mu'lIj. 'a qay'be'..
qayajmo' choberghchoHmoHlaHbe' ;
DaH..
jInguqmo', michaelsburg vIwIv 'e' bIHarlaw'..
'o bImujchu' !
ghunchu'wI', QIch le' ghaj 'elaDya' mu' michaelsburg.
meqvetlhmo' neH, michaelsburg vIwuv.
'IQ..
reH, reH, reH latlhpu' DanoHrup 'ej ghIq DanoHHa'.
'a jIjatlhqa' : qay'be'.
tlhIngan HolvaD choqeqmoHmo', jIHvaD bIQaQ.
mayqel
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
'Iv tlhIH?
johannesburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch st petersburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch je
qatlh michaelsburg tu'lu'be' ?
bIghelDI' bImuj. St. Petersburg-Daq qach'a'vetlh tu'lu'chu'.
Sep wIchenmoHta'chugh vaj monDajvaD pong michaelsburg wIlo'bejta'.
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH?
-- ghunchu'wI' _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:26 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH?
choyajHa'law'.. reH choyajHa'law'.
chojangQo'chugh, not qayajlaH. bIja'pu':
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
SuSIvtaH 'e' Damaq, qar'a'? 'ach SIvwI'pu' Dangu'be'. 'Iv tlhIH'e'?
'ej choyajHa'mo', mujchu' mu'lIj. 'a qay'be'..
qayajHa'be'. qayajbe'qu' neH.
qayajmo' choberghchoHmoHlaHbe' ;
choyajchugh, qatlh De' vItlhobbogh DanobQo'?
DaH..
jInguqmo', michaelsburg vIwIv 'e' bIHarlaw'..
Qo'! SuwIvmeH meq vISovbe'mo' qaghel. 'ej wej vISovmo' qaghelqa': qatlh pongvetlh bowIv?
'o bImujchu' !
chay' jImujlaH? pagh vISov!
ghunchu'wI', QIch le' ghaj 'elaDya' mu' michaelsburg. meqvetlhmo' neH, michaelsburg vIwuv. 'IQ..
"The Greek word Michaelsburg has a special sound. Only for that reason do I respect Michaelsburg." Is there a cross-linguistic pun that I am not seeing?
reH, reH, reH latlhpu' DanoHrup 'ej ghIq DanoHHa'.
nuq vInoHtaH jay'? jIgheltaH neH. De' vItlhob. qaqaDbe'bej.
'a jIjatlhqa' : qay'be'. tlhIngan HolvaD choqeqmoHmo', jIHvaD bIQaQ.
bIqeqlaHmo' jIbel. 'a bIjangQo'mo' jImogh. Maybe I'm just not understanding what you meant, or maybe you are not understanding my response, or perhaps it's some of both. Let me translate for you how I read your original message, and how I responded to it:
For many years we are wondering.
Who are y'all? [I choose the southernism "y'all" here to make clear that I intend the plural "you". If I had been writing in English to begin with, I would have asked: Who are "we"?]
There's a Johannesburg; we all know that. There's a St. Petersburg; we all know that too. Why isn't there a Michaelsburg?
You are wrong when you ask that. There absolutely is that great building in St. Petersburg.
If we have accomplished making a region, then we will certainly have used the name for its capitol." [I think you might be trying to express a subjunctive idea, but Klingon grammar doesn't make that clear.]
Why do y'all choose that name? And I ask you again: who are y'all?
I now add a third question: Why won't you answer my questions? -- ghunchu'wI'
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
ghunchu'wI', QIch le' ghaj 'elaDya' mu' michaelsburg. meqvetlhmo' neH, michaelsburg vIwuv. 'IQ..
"The Greek word Michaelsburg has a special sound. Only for that reason do I respect Michaelsburg."
reH Suvrup SuvwI''a'. I misread {vIwuv} as {vIvuv}. Unfortunately, replacing "I respect MIchaelsburg" with "I depend on Michaelsburg" does not help me understand. -- ghunchu'wI'
qunnoq vItuHnISmoH ! jIlIjpu'.. maHvaD Holraj le' wItlhapchu' ; che'omchugh vaj tlhIHvaD lo'laHbe' may'vam ! nugh yab On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
'Iv tlhIH?
johannesburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch st petersburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch je
qatlh michaelsburg tu'lu'be' ?
bIghelDI' bImuj. St. Petersburg-Daq qach'a'vetlh tu'lu'chu'.
Sep wIchenmoHta'chugh vaj monDajvaD pong michaelsburg wIlo'bejta'.
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH?
-- ghunchu'wI' _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
hmm.. or perhaps.. HolmajvaD, Holraj le' wIchelchu' che'omchugh, vaj tlhIHvaD lo'laHbe' may'vam ! On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
'Iv tlhIH?
johannesburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch st petersburg tu'lu' ; 'e' wISov Hoch je
qatlh michaelsburg tu'lu'be' ?
bIghelDI' bImuj. St. Petersburg-Daq qach'a'vetlh tu'lu'chu'.
Sep wIchenmoHta'chugh vaj monDajvaD pong michaelsburg wIlo'bejta'.
qatlh pongvetlh bowIv? 'ej qaghelqa': 'Iv tlhIH?
-- ghunchu'wI' _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
Am 02.06.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Alan Anderson:
'Iv tlhIH?
borgh chaH 'e' vIHar. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
ghunchu'wI', mayajHa'chuqba'pu' ; DaH 'e' vItlhoj. ghunchu'wI', we misunderstood each other ; I realize that now. toH, DaH, Doch DIlughmoHjaj ! so, lets clear up our misunderstanding !
meqvetlhmo' neH, michaelsburg vIwuv.
mu'tlheghvam vIghItlhtaHvIS, vIQagh. {wIv} vIlo' vIneH 'a tagha' {wuv} vIwIv.. while I was writing this sentence, I made a mistake. I wanted to use {wIv}, but instead I used {wuv}. jIHech : I meant : "only because of that reason, I choose/would choose michaelsburg". jIH:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH.. ghunchu'wI' 'Iv tlhIH?
rut, ghom moHaq vIqeqmeH, wotvaD {jI-} vIlo'be' ; {ma-} vIlo'taH. occasionally, in order to practice the plural verb prefixes, I use "we" instead f "I". meqvammo', {maSIvtaH} vIghItlhta'. because of this reason I wrote {maSIvtaH} 'ej borg vIparHa'mo' je' ! and because I like the borg too ! toH, yajHa'ghachmaj wIQaw'ta'mo', jIQuch ! so, because we solved our misunderstanding I am happy ! DaH, ghunchu'wI', SoHvaD mu'meyvam vIjatlhnIS je now, ghunchu'wI', for you I need to write these words too.. chaq wanI'vam Daqawbe'. perhaps you don't remember this. 'a 'op ret, jIHvaD, tlhoy potlhqu' QaHlIj. but you have helped me tremendously in the past. jIHvaD, ngIq mu'tlhegh neH DaghIlthta'mo'. because you wrote for me just a single sentence. tlhIngan Hol vIghItlhchoHDI', tlhIngan Hol neH vIghItlhtaH ; when I started writing klingon, I was writing only klingon ; DIvI' Hol mu'tlhegh vIghItlhbe'taH je'. without providing the english translation too. ngugh, jIHvaD bIjatlh : then you told me : tlhIngan Hol neH DaghItlhchugh, vaj Doch muj Daghojbej. if you write only klingon, then you learn things wrong. toH, ghIq, tlhIngan Hol DIvI Hol je vIghItlhchoH so, then, I started writing both klingon and english. mIwvam - qeSlIj- vIlo'mo' muQaHlaH latlh.. because I used this method - your advice -, others were able to help me.. 'ej pIvlob loS vI' loS Do chavpu' SerwIj. and my progress went into warp. reH QaHlIj vIlIj ; 'ej vIlIjmo' qavan ghunchu'wI' ! always I remember your help, and because of this reason, qavan ghunchu'wI' ! mayqel qun'noQ we will add your linguistic distinctiveness to ours resistance is futile On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
qaStaHvIS DIS law' maSIvtaH..
Am 02.06.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Alan Anderson:
'Iv tlhIH?
borgh chaH 'e' vIHar.
-- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
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