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latlh jaj lo'laHbe'
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

Do' Dor latlh jaj lo'laHbe'.. qatlh DaHjaj mayIn. Sov 'Iv.. Do', Dor qIDvam. 'ej tugh qaStaHvIS ram yInvamvo' nutoD Hegh loDnI'. Hoch yInga'. Hoch jaj Qu', yInvam, qo'vam.. nep Hoch, nepchu'ghachmo' Hoch. Do', wa' jaj Dor qIDvam. 'ej ngugh ru'Ha' ghu'vetlh. maj ram qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: lInchuq
by qurgh＠wizage.net 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, November 28, 2016 Klingon word: lInchuq Part of speech: phrase Definition: share each other Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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HopHa'
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

a while ago the Ca'non master shared this sentence: Daq HopHa’Daq qa’chaj nejlI’ qotar Qempa’QeH je Not far away, Kotar and his Qempa'keh, are in search for their souls. (PB) The {-Ha'} on the {Hop} seems rather strange; why not write just {Daq SumDaq} ? qunnoH jan puqloD

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Klingon Word of the Day: vergh
by qurgh＠wizage.net 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, November 29, 2016 Klingon word: vergh Part of speech: verb Definition: dock Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Is this acceptable ?
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

demons appear, the scared human asks "what are you ?" and the demons reply "demons for some, angels for others". Suppose I write the above in klingon: nargh qa'pu' Hurgh, 'ej ghel Human'e' lughIjbogh: nuq tlhIH. jang qa'pu' Hurgh: 'opvaD qa'pu' Hurgh, latlhpu'vaD angels 1. at the {ghel Human'e' lughIjbogh} I think the {-'e'} isn't necessary. Am I correct ? 2. at the {'opvaD qa'pu' Hurgh} is the {'opvaD} on its own acceptable, or is it absolutely necessary to write something like {'op HumanvaD} 3. and most important: since at the above story the context is clear, is it correct for the demons' reply to be just {'op HumanvaD qa'pu' Hurgh} "demons for some", or is it necessary to write {'op HumanvaD qa'pu' Hurgh maH} ? 4. If I remember correctly, some time ago we had said that {'oppu}/{'opmey} is wrong, right ? qunnoH jan puqloD

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Peace.. No peace..
by mayqel qunenoS 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

'ay'vam ngaS independence day wa' much: nov lujonta' Human; 'ej bIghHa' pa'Daq ghaHtaHvIS novvam, ja'chuqtaH novvam Humanpu' je': Humanpu': roj; roj wIneH nov: roj.. Qo' roj.. Human: mavang; chay' boneH ? nov: peHegh.. reH novvetlh vIHo'.. qama' nov jIH net jalchugh, novvetlh jIHbej. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Always, these things are never enough
by mayqel qunenoS 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

wa'DIch: be'pu' cha'DIch: puH Duj horse power wejDIch: qawHaq *gigabyte*mey reH yapbe' Dochvam.. vIt'a'vam vIDelta'mo', jIQonglaH ! maj ram.. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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magic and magicians
by Lieven 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

At the qepHom 2016, we were happy to learn the word for magic, {'IDnar}. As a coincidence, one of the attendees is a famous professional magician, so the immediate and obvious first question was: What do you call a magician? Few days ago, it was the magician's 40th birthday, and Marc... ehm, sorry, Maltz made this information his birthday present: --- begin quote --- I talked with Maltz about magic a little bit, and here's what he had to say: A true wizard or sorcerer – like in Harry Potter – is a ’IDnar pIn’a’. To conjure or to cast a spell, which is what wizards do, is reS. So a wizard or sorcerer can also be called a reSwI’. A spell, in this sense, is tlheH. One can say either tlheH reS or just reS alone for "he/she casts a spell." Maltz wasn’t sure if there is anything besides tlheH that can be the object of reS, since Maltz isn’t a ’IDnar pIn’a’, but maybe there is. The most common way to refer to a magician, like Kalibo, is mIn yuqwI’ (yuq is “outwit, outsmart”). (A mIn tojwI’ is an “optical illusion.”) Another expression for “magician” is ’IDnar lIlwI’. lIl is a verb meaning something like “simulate, impersonate.” The idea is one of doing something such that the subject of the verb looks or behaves like something (or someone) else or represents something (or someone) else. The word has no connotation of fraud or anything underhanded (in this respect, it’s like ghet). The object is the thing being simulated or the person being impersonated. lIlwI’ (“simulator,” for lack of a better term) is different from lIw (“substitute”) since lIw implies replacement (the notion of “instead of”) while a lIlwI’ doesn’t replace anyone or anything. So “perform magic” (as Kalibo does) is mIn yuq or ’IDnar lIl. (’IDnar pIn’a’ lIl would be “he/she impersonates a wizard [non-fraudulently].” Another word Maltz thought of as we were talking about all of this is yut “distract, create a diversion.” The object of this verb, when there is an object, is the person or group of people (usually) being distracted. [...personal messages removed] Happy Birthday to Kalibo. - Marc PS - My favorite sentence at the moment is “They are (continuously and with some sort of goal in mind) impersonating you (plural).” --- end quote --- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net

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The latlh
by mayqel qunenoS 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

There is something I can't understand with regards to the {latlh}. first, lets read these canon examples: {reH latlh qabDaq qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS} the fire is always hotter on someone else's face {latlh HIvje'Daq 'Iw HIq bIr yIqang} pour the cold bloodwine into another glass I want to ask: 1. the {latlh qabDaq} and the {latlh HIvje'Daq} mean ONLY "the face of another" and "the glass of another" respectively, or do/can they mean as well "an additional face" and "an additional glass" ? In case you wonder why I'm asking.. Suppose I want to say "for us there is an additional enemy", so I write {maHvaD latlh jagh tu'lu'}. Does this klingon sentence mean indeed "for us there is an additional enemy", or does it actually mean "for us there is an enemy of another", which doesn't make sense ? qunnoH jan puqloD

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qImroq bIr'e' 'IghmoHbogh qeylIS
by mayqel qunenoS 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

qImroq bIr'e' 'IghmoHbogh qeylIS (..or else g** d*mn winter) DaH, bIrqu' muD Dotlh 'ej SISqu'taH; 'ach yaHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH, tugh qaStaHvIS wa'maH vagh tup jIyIt net poQ. juHwIjDaq jIratlh vIneH, QIt qa'vInwIj tuj vItlhutlh vIneH 'ej jIHDaq much vIbej vIneH. jIvum vIneHbej; jIvumtaHvIS reH jIbel, capricorn jIHmo'. 'ach muD Dotlhvam vImuS. pIj, jIghel'egh 'ej Sughel je; qatlh wej wey jolpat lu'oghlu'pu'. 'a chaq tughel: wey jolpat tu'lu' net jalchugh Dalo'qang ? hmm.. jISovbe'.. chaq vIlo'vIp. Sov 'Iv. 'ach mIqta'meyvam tu'lu' net jalchugh vaj vogh wIjaH wIneHDI', wa' DuH potlh wIghaj: lo'chaj. 'ach, DaH, qaSpu' poH nI' 'ej jImej. 'ut. Do' SISbe'choH.. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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