Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, December 27, 2016 Klingon word: joj Part of speech: noun Definition: area between Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, December 27, 2016
Klingon word: joj Part of speech: noun Definition: area between
poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI' The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors. S9 SEE ALSO: retlh area beside, next to, beside (n) yoS area, district (n) -- Voragh tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a' Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu'
I am somewhat surprised by seeing the {poS} and {nIH} being used without being in direct reference to a noun. I would expect something like {SuvwI' poSDaq nIHDaq je..} qunnoH jan puqloD On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, December 27, 2016
Klingon word: joj Part of speech: noun Definition: area between
poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI' The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors. S9
SEE ALSO: retlh area beside, next to, beside (n) yoS area, district (n)
-- Voragh tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a' Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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mayqel qunenoS :
poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI' The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors. S9
I am somewhat surprised by seeing the {poS} and {nIH} being used without being in direct reference to a noun.
I would expect something like {SuvwI' poSDaq nIHDaq je..}[]
{poSDaq nIHDaq je} does refer to a noun - the subject of the subordinate clause they are in - and precedes the verb {QamtaHvIS} because that is where place-stamps and other adverbials go: "While warriors are standing on the right (side) and on the left (side), the initiate ("celebrant" must walk (in the area) between them." Many people forget that {poS} "left (side)" and {nIH} "right (side)" are nouns in Klingon, not qualities. They are "area nouns" just like {joj} "area between", {bIng} "area below, area under", etc. -- Voragh tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a' Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
voragh:
They are "area nouns" just like {joj} "area between", {bIng} "area below, area under", etc
yes, but rarely do we get to see a {joj} or a {bIng}, without a noun preceeding them. lets try this another way.. would you accept this as correct ? {DungDaq bIngDaq je 'altaHvIS 'IDnar pIn'a'} while the sorcerer is levitating above and below in this example the reader could become confused as to "while the sorcerer is levitating above and below of what ?". my problem has to do, with the fact that when we use a stand-alone {poSDaq}, {nIHDaq}, {DungDaq}, {bIngDaq} etc, the reader could get confused as to the "in reference to where" these locatives apply. at the above/below/left/right of where ? qunnoH jan puqloD On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
mayqel qunenoS :
poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI' The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors. S9
I am somewhat surprised by seeing the {poS} and {nIH} being used without being in direct reference to a noun.
I would expect something like {SuvwI' poSDaq nIHDaq je..}[]
{poSDaq nIHDaq je} does refer to a noun - the subject of the subordinate clause they are in - and precedes the verb {QamtaHvIS} because that is where place-stamps and other adverbials go:
"While warriors are standing on the right (side) and on the left (side), the initiate ("celebrant" must walk (in the area) between them."
Many people forget that {poS} "left (side)" and {nIH} "right (side)" are nouns in Klingon, not qualities. They are "area nouns" just like {joj} "area between", {bIng} "area below, area under", etc.
-- Voragh tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a' Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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