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naDev jIQonglaHchugh net jalchugh..
by mayqel qunenoS 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

DaH, yaHwIjDaq jIHtaH 'ej rIn Qu'wIj poH.. toH, juHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH yaHwIj HurDaq vIjaH net poQ. 'ach bIr muD Dotlh 'ej jIDoy'qu'. qatlh ? qatlh naDev jIQongbe''a' ? chaq nuDmeH QongDaqDaq jIQonglaH. hmm.. QaQ qechvam. 'ach jISopnISmo' juHwIjDaq vIjaH net poQ. qatlh ? qatlh wey jolpat tu'lu'be' ? qunnoH jan puqloD

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Klingon Word of the Day: vol
by qurgh＠wizage.net 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, November 25, 2016 Klingon word: vol Part of speech: noun Definition: pane, panel, sheet (not for bed) Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'emvI'
by qurgh＠wizage.net 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, November 23, 2016 Klingon word: 'emvI' Part of speech: noun Definition: pin (straight) Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Can I use {Hur} on its own ?
by mayqel qunenoS 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

At another thread I wrote: {toH, juHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH yaHwIj HurDaq vIjaH net poQ} Would it be acceptable if I wrote: {toH, juHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH HurDaq vIjaH net poQ} So, the question is: Can words as {Hur}, {bIng}, {Dung} etc, be used on their own, or is it necessary for them to refer to another noun, a noun that will precede them ? qunnoH jan puqloD

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Expressing must with imperatives
by mayqel qunenoS 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

A while ago we talked about the nature of {-nIS} and how it differs from "must". And we discussed how we could work around this limitation through the use of {'ut} and {net poQ}. However something continued "not to feel right". A while ago I wrote: "when you're translating into klingon you must recreate the feeling of the original passage". If I wanted to write this using the above workarounds I should say {tlhIngan Hol DaghItlhmeH Hol nov DamughtaHvIS, Hol nov qa' Dachenqa'moH} and then add a {'ut}, or {net poQ}. But today I realized there is an additional way, which is perhaps even better.. What does the "must' express, if not an imperative of sorts ? When I say "you need to do this", often I mean "you must do this", and in other words I'm giving a command, only I choose to do it in a more kind manner. But since tlhIngan Hol, isn't the weak and indecisive DIvI' Hol, we could avoid altogether the {-nIS} and give the command. So, in above example, instead of the {tlhIngan Hol DaghItlhmeH Hol nov DamughtaHvIS, Hol nov qa' Dachenqa'moH, 'ut / net poQ} I could write: {tlhIngan Hol DaghItlhmeH Hol nov DamughtaHvIS, Hol nov qa' yIchenqa'moH}. and then, if it is necessary I could add a {'ut}, a {net poQ} or whatever else (although I think that they rarely would be). qunnoH jan puqloD

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Which of the two expresses the {-pu'} better ?
by mayqel qunenoS 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

lets say I write: {pumpu' 'obmaQ}. which of the following two sentences, expresses the {-pu'} better ? a. the axe fell b. the axe has fallen qunnoH jan puqloD

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cha’Hu’ Qujvam chongqu’ vIje’ta’...
by Aurélie Demonchaux 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

buqjaj jar wa’maH’ wa’DIch jaj wa’maH chorghDIch, qo’Daq <Pokémon Sun> <Pokémon Moon> je ngevchoHlu’ net chaw’. (’ach wej ’ewropDaq. ’ewropvaD, ghItlhjaj jar wa’maH’ wa’DIch jaj cha’maH wejDIch ’oH ngevchoHlu'meH jaj’e’. Do’, vIraSDaq cha’Hu’ Qujmeyvam ngevchoH chaH ’e’ luwuqpu’ Micromania pInpu’). Pokémon qatru’ jIHba’, vaj vIngevlaHDI’, Micromania-Daq nom jIjaH ’ej <Pokémon Moon> vIngevta’ ! jajvam tlhIHvaD vuDwIj wa’DIch vIbon vIneH. bIng merHa’wI’ tu’be’lu’ (no spoilers below) qaStaHvIS DIS law’ Pokémon vIQujtaH* (* ’ach qaStaHvIS DIS puS, jIHaDlaHvIS, vIQujbe’. loS ben vIQujqa’) reH vImaSbogh Quj ’oH Pokémon’e’. pIj qaStaHvIH rep law’ vIQuj ’ej Hochlogh vItIv. qaStaHvIS 2015, Pokémon Quj chu’ tu’be’lu’mo’ loQ jIQuchHa’. vaj DISvam Pokémon lop cha’maH DISvaD, <Pokémon Sun> <Pokémon Moon> je ’angchoHlu’DI’, jIQuchchoHpu’. ghIq qaStaHvIS jar law’, Qujmeyvam vIloSpu’. nI’pu’ ’ej Dalpu’! ’ej DaH, tagha’ vIQujlaHmo’, jIQuchqu’! Pokémon Qujvam Dunqu’ law’ pIHpu’ghachwIj* Dunqu’ puS (*trying to say "it's more awesome than I expected", but not sure it's correct to nominalize <pIH> like this, since we only have the comparative structure for nouns not verbs) qaStaHvIS 2013 pawpu’ Pokémon Quj vorgh (<Pokémon X> <Pokémon Y> je), ’ej DaH vISovchu’. lut Hoch, Hoch Pokémon, Hoch tonSaw’, Hoch qIgh je vISovchu’. ’ach <Pokémon Moon>-Daq, pagh Doch vISov! Hoch Pokémonpu’* chu’, Pokémon laHmey chu’, tonSaw’ chu’, lut chu’, Sep chu’ (<Alola> Sep) je tu’lu’, ’ej Hoch Doch vItu’choHtaH! ’oHvammo’ jItlhuHtaH! (* Hol lughaj Pokémonpu’, ’ach motlh luyajlaHbe’ Humanpu’. vaj <-pu’> lugh law’ <-mey> lugh puS ‘e’ vIQub.) DaH <Alola> Sep vIcheghnIS ’ej Hoch Pokémon vISuqqa’nIS*! tlhIH Savan ! :) ~mughwI’ aka Pokémon pIn’a’ PS: * vISuqqa’nIS: I know... it's not very grammatical, but I want to say "I need to resume catching them all". If I put it in the right suffix order, <vISuqnISqa’> it seems to say "I resume needing to catch them all" :/ )

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Klingon Word of the Day: baS laSvargh
by qurgh＠wizage.net 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, November 24, 2016 Klingon word: baS laSvargh Part of speech: noun Definition: foundry Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Soft and hairy animals jumping on the bed
by mayqel qunenoS 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

ah.. qImroq bIr; tagha' pawpu' qImroq bIr. 'ej qaStaHvIS rammey nI', maghun'eghchoHmoHmeH tlhIm law' wIlo'qang. 'ach muD bIr luyInmo' je Ha'DIbaH law', pIj QongDaqmajDaq Sup Ha'DIbaHvam. ngugh wa' ngoD potlh wItlhoj: ghunqu' Ha'DIbaHvam 'ej ghunmo' nughunmoHlaH. toH, tIqraj yIghel: QongDaqmajvo' Ha'DIbaHvam DIDoHmoHlaH'a' ? Say'chugh Ha'DIbaHvam 'ej porghchajvo' pumbe' veD, nItebHa' maQonglaH maH bIH je. 'ach potlhbe' Ha'DIbaHmeyvam, meqmo' neH vIDelta'bogh; latlh tu'lu'.. be'pu' bIHbe'mo', nughunmoHtaHvIS jatlhbe' ! hahaha qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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A question on {-chu'}
by mayqel qunenoS 23 Nov '16

23 Nov '16

wa'maH tup ret, jIQongrup 'a pay' nargh qay'wI'vam: read these sentences: a. mIghqu' Dujvam b. mIghchu' Dujvam c. tlhoy mIgh Dujvam d. tlhoy mIghqu' Dujvam e. tlhoy mIghchu' Dujvam first question: which of these ships is the most evil ? Now, I think that the sentences d and e, although they are grammaticaly correct (at least I think they are), they don't "sound good". and because of this reason I wouldn't use them. So, we come to the second question: a. mIghqu' Dujvam b. mIghchu' Dujvam c. tlhoy mIgh Dujvam Of these three ships, which is the most evil ? and finally.. a. mIghqu' Dujvam b. mIghchu' Dujvam c. tlhoy mIgh Dujvam d. Duj mIgh law' Hoch mIgh puS Same question: which of the ships above is the most evil ? maj ! DaH jIQong.. qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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