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Marc Okrand narrates audio tour for the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum
by Felix Malmenbeck 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

Marc Okrand recently translated and recorded descriptions off the Smithsonian's new GO FLIGHT app. They can be listened to here: https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/explore-museum-klingon Text is available in the app. I've spotted three new words that will need analyzing (and there could be more; I´m quite sleepy). Should I write them up here or follow some 30-day rule? //loghaD

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maghwI' chaH
by mayqel qunenoS 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

rurchuq autobots, superman je. qatlh. rapmo' chaH. qatlh rap. maghwI' chaHmo'. qatlh maghwI' chaH. Humanpu'vaD vInDa'chaj maghta'mo'. not novpu'vaD vInDa'pu'lI' Damagh. 'e' DaqaSmoHQo'chugh, vaj maghwI' neH SoHbe'; veQna' SoH. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Thoughts on {vaj}
by mayqel qunenoS 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

At another thread the {vaj} was discussed, and in particular its nature as an adverb. an adverb which describes the verb as an effect/result of another (previous) action/situation. example: {pa' 'el 'avwI' vaj jISuvrupchoH} the guard entered the room, so I became ready to fight. so far so good.. I realized however that everything we can describe by the {vaj} can be described by the {-mo'}. {pa' 'elmo' 'avwI', jISuvrupchoH} because the guard entered the room, I became ready to fight. again here we have the "my becoming ready to fight" being the result of the guard entering the room. and perhaps one could go further to say that the meaning conveyed by the {vaj} is conveyed through various other means: {pa' 'elDI' 'avwI', jISuvrupchoH} {pa' 'el 'avwI', ghIq jISuvrupchoH} {pa' 'el 'avwI', ngugh jISuvrupchoH} the only difference between the {vaj}/{mo'} method, and the last three is perhaps that the {vaj}/{mo'} are more direct, while the rest only imply/indirectly mean that the guard's entrance to the room was the reason of my "becoming ready to fight". so, that's my understanding of {vaj}. are my conclusions/observations correct ? qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: pem
by qurgh＠wizage.net 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, November 27, 2016 Klingon word: pem Part of speech: noun Definition: daytime Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Intransitive verbs with {-chuq}
by mayqel qunenoS 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

if I want to say "the roads are perpendicular to each other", and I write {leDchuq tawmey} would it be correct ? I am under the impression that someone can use the {-chuq} only with transitive verbs. qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghoq
by qurgh＠wizage.net 26 Nov '16

26 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, November 26, 2016 Klingon word: ghoq Part of speech: verb Definition: spy, spy on Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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The sacred institution of the canon master
by mayqel qunenoS 26 Nov '16

26 Nov '16

muqeHHa'jaj ghantoH pIn'a', pIj 'e' vIghItlh. 'ej chaq vIghellu': qatlh mu'meyvam DaghItlhtaH ? jIjangmeH, mIllogh vIDelnIS; jIHvaD ghantoH pIn'a' qawmoHbogh mIllogh.. pirates of the caribbean much Dabejpu''a' ? 'ay'vam ghaj muchvam: raSDaq ba' pirates law', 'ej qay'wI' lujuSmeH jatlhtaH. He chup wa' 'ach pirate chut bIv piratevam. SIbI' ghaHvaD jatlhlu': pirate chut DabIvba' ! 'a jang: jISaHbe' ! DaH, pa'vamDaq ba'lu'taH.. pirate chut pIn'a' ! 'ej {jISaHbe'} QoyDI', chut bIvwI' HoH ! ngugh jatlh: Hoch 'oH chut'e' ! jIHvaD, pirate chut pIn'a'vam qawmoH voragh.. 'ej tlhIngan vaS'a'Daq maba'taHvIS 'ej tlhIngan Hol wIlo'taHvIS, tlhIngan Hol paq'a' 'uchtaH ! mapabchu'meH reH nunuDtaH, vaj wIQeHmoHbe'meH mayeptaH, net poQ. SKI: always our honorable canon master, reminds me the master of the pirate law at the pirates of the caribbean movie. when a pirate intentionally broke the law and said "I don't care", the master of the pirate law immediately shot him and told: the law is everything ! while we're sitting at the klingon great hall and use klingon, our honorable canon master holds the book of our law and watches us.. may we be careful, so that we follow the rules and not anger him ! the canon is the law, and the law is everything ! hahaha qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Expressing multiple adverbs
by mayqel qunenoS 26 Nov '16

26 Nov '16

poH ngaj ret, souvlakia vIje'meH jIve'taH ('elaDya'ngan jIHmo', pIj souvlakia vISop); 'ej jIve'taHvIS.. I made an important realization. I knew that if we want to add two adverbs to a noun we had the following ways: ngIngbogh HoS nIt nItbogh HoS ngIng ngIngbogh 'et nItbogh HoS nItbogh 'ej ngIngbogh HoS ngIngbogh HoS 'ej nItbogh nItbogh HoS 'ej ngIngbogh All good.. but what if these methods failed to convey the feeling I was aiming for ? lets assume I want to say: "pure negative energy I summon thee" no method of the above is able to convey the exceptional dark "punch" of the english original. none. 'ej souvlakiawIj vISamtaHvIS, luckily I realized that the solution was easy: {HoS nIt, HoS ngIng qarIt}. Perhaps it is just a matter of personal preference, but I feel that the last method better conveys the feeling of the moment, let alone that it is more direct than "energy which is this and that go figure". Of course the question arises: In the {HoS nIt, HoS ngIng qarIt} is it legal to use the {qa-} ? ok, here you got me.. I don't know for sure, but if: a. each of the {HoS nIt} {HoS ngIng} are to be considered to be forms of address, and b. they address the same thing (which is "one") then why not use the {qa-} ? maj ! DaH souvlakiameywIj vISop. qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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I just realized
by mayqel qunenoS 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

What am I ? The village idiot ? I just realized that for months now, I've been using the {toH} as the {vaj}. aaargh ! {toH} = so, well (exclamation) {vaj} = so, then, thus, in that case (adv) I can't say: {toH, pa'vo' mej} but I can say: {vaj, pa'vo' mej} If I say {toH, pa'vo' mej} then this doesn't mean "so, he left the room"; it means "so ! he left the room". However the {vaj, pa'vo' mej} does indeed mean "so, he left the room". Why ? Why is it only now that I realize this ? qunnoH jan puqloD

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Can I use {Hur} on its own ?
by mayqel qunenoS 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

andre muller: > "I went outside." > What verb would you use I would say {HurDaq vIjaH} or {Hur vIjaH}. I would use the {jaH}, because I think it expresses better the "I went". The way I understand the {ghoS} it expresses the "I approached/followed/went away from" depending on the presence of the suffixes {-Daq} and {-vo'}. qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta' On 24 Nov 2016 9:25 pm, "André Müller" <esperantist(a)gmail.com> wrote: That reminds me of a question I had recently but didn't bother to ask. "I went outside." What verb would you use? {ghoS} maybe? Or perhaps {mej}? Or maybe even {'el} (there are some natural languages, such as Tsez, where you can "enter the outside", and I like that expression). Of course, I could be more precise and say {juHvo' jImejpu'}, but which verb would you use with {Hur}? Would you guys accept {Hur vI'elpu'}? - André 2016-11-24 19:52 GMT+01:00 SuStel <sustel(a)trimboli.name>: > On 11/24/2016 1:38 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: > >> At another thread I wrote: >> {toH, juHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH yaHwIj HurDaq vIjaH net poQ} >> >> Would it be acceptable if I wrote: >> {toH, juHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH HurDaq vIjaH net poQ} >> >> So, the question is: Can words as {Hur}, {bIng}, {Dung} etc, be used >> on their own, or is it necessary for them to refer to another noun, a >> noun that will precede them ? >> > > Sure, you can use them on their own. Just remember that their concepts are > relative to something else, so some context is usually needed. You provide > that in your example sentence because you're talking about being at your > duty station before you talk about going outside. Outside what? Your duty > station is obviously indoors, so you go out. Not a problem. > > -- > SuStel > http://trimboli.name > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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