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hellenic gods - personified concepts part 6
by mayqel qunen'oS 28 Jun '21

28 Jun '21

en *Hedone* - spirit of pleasure, enjoyment, and delight. *Heimarmene* - personification of share destined by fate. *Homados* - spirit of the din of battle. *Homonoia* - spirit of concord, unanimity, and oneness of mind. *Horkos* - spirit of oaths. *Horme* - spirit of impulse or effort (to do a thing), eagerness, setting oneself in motion, and starting an action. *Hybris* - spirit of outrageous behaviour. *Hypnos* - god of sleep. *The Hysminai *- spirits of fighting and combat. *Ioke* - spirit of pursuit in battle. tlh *hedone* - bel qa’. tIvlu’; belqu’choHpu’; ghu’meyvam chIw *hedone*. *heimarmene* - Sanmo’ qaS vay’; wanI’vam ‘oS qa’vam. *homados* - vItlhtaHbogh may’ wab qa’. *homonoia* - yeqlaH nuvpu’, Qochbe’mo’; ghIbchu’ Hoch; wuqtaHvIS nuvpu’, pIm pagh nuv ngoQ/chabal; ghu’meyvam qa’. *horkos* - ‘Ipmey qa’. *horme* - vang nuv pay’ neHchoH nuvvam; vay’ chavmeH nuv, nID; vangqang nuv, boH ‘ej Sey; vangchoH vay’; Qu’ turchoH nuv; Hochvam qa’. *hubris* - nguqchu’wI’na’, ‘eDjenna’ Da nuv; ghu’vam ‘oS *hubris*. *hypnos* - Qong nuv; ghu’vam che’ loD ghaHbogh Qunvam’e’. *hysminai* - Suv nuv; ghu’vam lu’oS *hysminai*. may’ vIq je qa’pu’. *ioke* - qaStaHvIS may’, wa’ SuvmeH latlh, tlha’; ghu’vam qa’. ~ Dana'an *one day Apollo will return to stay forever*

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Klingon Word of the Day: vorgh
by Klingon Word of the Day 25 Jun '21

25 Jun '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, June 25, 2021 Klingon word: vorgh Part of speech: verb Definition: be previous Source: qep'a' 23 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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meaning of the verbs {tob} and {Daj}
by mayqel qunen'oS 25 Jun '21

25 Jun '21

I think I just realized that years now, I understand wrongly the verbs {tob} and {Daj}. But before I start, just to be on the same page (as americans say), here are the definitions: tob (v) test conclusively, prove Daj (v) test inconclusively Suppose I write the following sentences: nger vItobpu' nger vIDajpu' Years now, I thought that the {nger vItobpu'} means "I proved that the theory is correct", and that the {nger vIDajpu'} means "I proved that the theory is wrong". But now I realized that the meanings are rather the folllowing: nger vItobpu' I tested conclusively the theory (I say that I tested it thoroughly, but without this meaning that the theory is necessarily correct; after the "testing" finished, perhaps the conclusion was that the theory was perfectly wrong) nger vIDajpu' I tested inconclusively the theory (I just say that I didn't thoroughly test the theory; it may be a valid theory, or it may be a wrong one, but the "testing" wasn't thorough/effective enough to come to definite conclusion) Is my understanding correct? ~ Dana'an

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hellenic gods - personified concepts part 5
by mayqel qunen'oS 25 Jun '21

25 Jun '21

en *Eucleia* - spirit of good repute and glory. *Eulabeia* - spirit of discretion, caution, and circumspection. *Eunomia* - goddess of good order and lawful conduct. *Eupheme* - spirit of words of good omen, acclamation, praise, applause, and shouts of triumph. *Eupraxia* - spirit of well-being. *Eusebeia* - spirit of piety, loyalty, duty, and filial respect. *Euthenia* - spirit of prosperity, abundance, and plenty. *Gelos* - spirit of laughter. *Geras* - spirit of old age. *Harmonia* - goddess of harmony and concord. tlh *eucleia* - QaQ vay’ bopbogh latlhpu’ vuD’e’; ghu’vam ‘oS qa’vam. ngay’ qa’. *eulabeia* - jatlhtaHvIS/vangtaHvIS nuv, latlh/latlhpu’ mawbe’meH/tIchbe’meH, ‘ej vay’ pegh ‘otHa’be’meH, yep nuvvam; Hoj nuv; narghbe’meH Qob, SuDqangbe’ nuv; Hochvam chIw *eulabeia*. *eunomia* - Qap nugh, chutmey bIvbe’mo’ rewbe’pu’Daj; vangtaHvIS rewbe’pu’, pabtaH; ghu’meyvam be’ ghaHbogh Qun’e’. *eupheme* - QaQbogh tuch wanI’mey ghaSbogh mu’mey’e’; vay’ quvmoHlu’meH, naDlu’, ‘ej naDlu’taHvIS, jachlu’; ‘evlu’; yay chavlu’taHvIS, jachlu’; Hochvam qa’. naD qa’. *eupraxia* - pIv/Quch/chep nuv; ghu’meyvam ‘oS *eupraxia*. *eusebeia* - Qunpu’ vuv nuv; matlh; Qu’Daj buSHa’be’ vay’; Hochvam chIw *eusebeia*. puqDaj/puqpu’Daj vuv nuv, ‘ej jaSHa’ latlh/latlhpu’ vuv je; ghu’vam chIw je qa’vam. *euthenia* - cheplu’; law’lu’; vey’lu’; ghu’meyvam qa’. *gelos* - HaghmoH qa’vam. *geras* - qan nuv; ghu’vam ‘oS *geras*. *harmonia* - Qaplu’, Qochbe’mo’ nuvpu’; yeqlaH nuvpu’, Qochbe’mo’; ghu’meyvam be’ ghaHbogh Qun’e’. ~ Dana'an

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Present tense and context
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 24 Jun '21

24 Jun '21

Sometimes the more you learn, the more insecure you feel. In TKD, section 4.2.7 we read: <The absence of a Type 7 suffix usually means that the action is not completed and is not continuous (that is, it is not one of the things indicated by the Type 7 suffixes). Verbs with no Type 7 suffix are translated by the English simple present tense. (...) When the context is appropriate, verbs without a Type 7 suffix may be translated by the English future tense (will), but the real feeling of the Klingon is closer to English sentences such as *We fly tomorrow at dawn*, where the present-tense verb refers to an event in the future.> I guess Okrand forgot the (imperfective) past tense, so it should actually say: *may be translated by the English future tense (will) or simple past*. My question is: If you don't have any specific context or any words indicating past or future, should you interpret a verb with no Type 7 suffix as present (as suggested by this quotation of TKD)? Of course, there is (almost) always a context, but sometimes it takes a little bit till context is clear. If a Klingon read at the beginning of a text: *tera'Daq Dab muchwI' noy*, will she or he interpret it as present, because if you want it to mean past or future you MUST use a time expression or a clear context, or will she or he simply not interpret it as present / past / future till context or a time expression clarify it (which could be pretty confusing)? Let me put it other way: MUST I always use a clear context or a time expression to get the meaning of present (i.e. be very careful to be sure present is the only possible interpretation in a text), or can I assume that, if no other word or context indicate past or future, the listener / the reader will understand a verb with no Type 7 suffix as present? Or am I missing something? Thank you!

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Klingon Word of the Day: ja'
by Klingon Word of the Day 24 Jun '21

24 Jun '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, June 24, 2021 Klingon word: ja' Part of speech: verb Definition: tell, report Source: TKD (90 KE, 149 EK, 156 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] darth bane quote
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 23 Jun '21

23 Jun '21

SuStel: >>> Or maybe he's saying the strength of others will always fail you: reH SoHvaD luj latlh HoS the strength of others will always fail for you. >> Could this sentence also be translated:*Another strength will always fail for you*? >Yes, it could, and I figured that meaning would be just as good. If we want this sentence to have *only* the meaning *the strenght of others* could we say: *latlhpu' HoS*? (In the singular maybe *latlh nuv HoS*?)

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Klingon Word of the Day: la'SIv
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Jun '21

23 Jun '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, June 23, 2021 Klingon word: la'SIv Part of speech: noun Definition: turtle, tortoise Source: loghaD Email 3 august 2012 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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darth bane quote
by mayqel qunen'oS 23 Jun '21

23 Jun '21

en The strength to survive must come from within. Others will always fail you. Friends, family, fellow soldiers.. In the end each person must stand alone. When in need look to the self. tlh tIq 'oHnIS taHmeH HoS mung'e'. reH nIbelHa'moH latlh. juppu', qorDu', latlh negh.. tagha' nIteb SIQnIS nuv. bItaHnIStaHvIS, yIbuS'eghtaH. ~ Dana'an

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nietzsche about greek philosophy
by mayqel qunen'oS 23 Jun '21

23 Jun '21

en Even today many educated people think that the victory of Christianity over Greek philosophy is a proof of the superior truth of the former - although in this case it was only the coarser and more violent that conquered the more spiritual and delicate. So far as superior truth is concerned, it is enough to observe that the awakening sciences have allied themselves point by point with the philosophy of Epicurus, but point by point rejected Christianity. - Friedrich Nietzsche tlh *christianity* vIt nIv law' 'elaDya' *philosophy* nIv puS 'e' luHar law'bogh nuv Han, vabDot qaStaHvIS poHvam, 'ej vuDvam lughaj, 'elaDya' *philosophy* jeypu'mo' *christianity*, 'ach wa' ngoD potlh lutlhojbe'; qa' mIw 'oHbogh vay''e' Hoybogh vay' charghpu' ralbogh 'ej Hoybe'bogh vay'. 'ej nIvbogh vIt'e', wa' tlhojlu'chugh, yap: ngIq* epicurus* *philosophy *nger lulajchu'pu' narghchoHpu'bogh QeD, 'ach ngIq *christianity *vItqoq lulajpu'Qo'. - friedrich nietzsche ~ Dana'an

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