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Beginner's text and questions
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 18 Jun '21

18 Jun '21

DoyIchlanDaq tagha' loQ QaQ muD Dotlh 'ej Hur wItIvlaH. 'ach jImejpa' tlhIngan HolwIj vIqeq vIneH. ghojmeH pov meq motlh luSovlu'bogh. vaj *flamenco* meHghem vIrIch vIneH. vatlh DIS poH wa'maH Hut *Andalusia*Daq chenpu' *flamenco*, 'ach mungDaj Sovlu'chu'be'. nger law' tu'lu'. meHghemvam luSIghlaw'pu' nugh pIm. wa' nugh potlh 'oHbejpu' *Romani* nugh'e'. muchwI'pu', mI'wI'pu', bomwI'pu' je much 'oH *flamenco*'e'. mIw yItlh pabbe'bogh meHghem nong'e' 'oH. Dujmey 'agh, le'yo' 'agh. *flamenco* much lubej tlhIngan net jalchugh, chaq luparHa'. As usual, I would appreciate any help / correction in order to improve my Klingon. I also have two questions: 1. Regarding my first sentence: Is the word order right? I've found this structure in some posts of this email list and on the Klingon Wiki: question word - timestamp - noun phrase + Type 5 suffix - adverbial - O - V - S But as I understand it, TKD is not very clear about this. Does that structure base on canonical sources? And what about having several adverbials or noun phrases + Type 5 suffix together? 2. If I want to connect two relative clauses which refer to the same noun, I use *'ej*, but if I want to connect two different nouns each one having a relative clause attached to, then I should use *je*, right? E.g.: *ngeDbogh meq motlh 'ej Dajbogh*, *meq motlh luSovlu'bogh ngeDbogh qechmey Daj je*. By the way: is it allowed to use a noun with a relative clause as part of a noun-noun-construction (eventually using *-'e'* if necessary)? Thank you very much!

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Klingon Word of the Day: Haw'
by Klingon Word of the Day 17 Jun '21

17 Jun '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, June 17, 2021 Klingon word: Haw' Part of speech: verb Definition: flee, get out Source: TKD (87 KE, 133 EK, 135 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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is {wuqHa'} Ca'Non
by mayqel qunen'oS 17 Jun '21

17 Jun '21

Is the verb {wuqHa'} "commute (a judicial sentence)" as in {vImuHlu' net wuqHa'} from ent Ca'Non? I mean did this definition of {wuqHa'} come from 'oqranD? ~ Dana'an yes the thing in my avatar is an ancient cat

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] is {tlhInja} chess
by DloraH 16 Jun '21

16 Jun '21

On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 14:46 +0200, Lieven L. Litaer wrote: > Am 16.06.2021 um 14:18 schrieb mayqel qunen'oS: > > Do you mean that there's a real tlhInja game (which someone can buy > > on this earth) as there is for example the klingon monopoly? > > Not as complete or official as Monopoly, but there are several > websites with information on the game. I'm not an expert, so I can't > tell the details, or tell where they came from. But I have frequently > observed people playing the game, so I know it works. (even > 3D-KlinZha) > > Here some useful links: > > http://klingon.wiki/En/KlinZha > http://www.klinzha.com/ > https://www.chessvariants.com/shape.dir/klinzha/klinzha.html > > -- > Lieven L. Litaer > aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" > http://www.tlhInganHol.com > I have a couple sets; one large table top set, and one small travel size set. Go to: http://www.tasigh.org/takzh/index.html That site includes the rules and pics of several people's sets, including pics of one of mine. It is definitely a playable game. - DloraH

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is {tlhInja} chess
by mayqel qunen'oS 16 Jun '21

16 Jun '21

A little bird told me that the {tlhInja} is a game of strategy which has been compared to chess. Cutting through the crap of "what something actually is to a non-existent alien race", does this info on {tlhInja} mean that in the same way we say {vIghro'} for "cat", {lIr} for "owl", etc, we can say {tlhInja} for chess? ~ Dana'an

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Klingon Word of the Day: moS
by Klingon Word of the Day 16 Jun '21

16 Jun '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, June 16, 2021 Klingon word: moS Part of speech: verb Definition: compromise Source: TKD (95 KE, 125 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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object of the verb {SIS}
by mayqel qunen'oS 16 Jun '21

16 Jun '21

At/in klingonska we read: http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-05-28-email.txt ---------- SIS. In a way everyone was correct with this one. It rained a few times during the weekend, so we were put into the situation to discuss it. SIS SISqu' SIStaH SISchoH All correct. SISlu', altho grammaticlly correct, he didn't particularly like. Someone COULD use it but to me it sounds like they skipped science class and don't know what the subject is. You can also give it an object and say things like the clouds rained down cats and dogs. ...or something like that; you get the idea. But when Marc and I went outside and drops of water were falling on us, he looked up and simply said "SIS". ---------- But at/in the paq'batlh we read: {ghIq QavwI'chaj DuQchu' qeylIS betleH chaHDaq SIStaHvIS negh 'Iw} "Then Kahless's bat'leth pierced the last of them, showered with the soldiers' blood". Why is the {negh 'Iw} the subject of {SIStaHvIS}? Shouldn't it be its' object? Shouldn't we have instead {negh 'Iw SIStaHvIS}? ~ Dana'an

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hellenic gods - personified concepts part 2
by mayqel qunen'oS 16 Jun '21

16 Jun '21

en *Aletheia* - spirit of truth, truthfulness and sincerity *Algea* - spirits of pain and suffering: Achos (trouble, distress), Ania (ache, anguish), Lupe (pain, grief, sadness) *Alke* - spirit of prowess and courage (one of the Machai) *Amechania* - spirit of helplessness and want of means *Amphilogiai* - spirits of disputes, debate, and contention *Anaideia* - spirit of ruthlessness, shamelessness, and unforgivingness *Androktasiai* - spirits of battlefield slaughter *Angelia* - spirit of messages, tidings and proclamations *Apate* - spirit of deceit, guile, fraud and deception *Apheleia* - spirit of simplicity tlh *aletheia* - vIt qa’. vItqang nuv ghaHvaD ‘e’ qaSmoH *aletheia*. nuv ‘IlmoH je. *algea* - ‘oy’lu’, bechlu’; ghu’meyvam qa’pu’: *achos* (Seng SIQlu’, Sotlu’), *ania* (‘oy’, ‘oy’lu’chu’), *lupe* (‘oy’, Sotlu’, ‘IQlu’). *alke* - qajunpaQ toDuj je qa’ (*alke* yugh je *machai* qa’ ghom). *amechania* - pagh QaH tu’lu’, pagh jo tu’lu’; ghu’meyvam qa’. *amphilogiai* - ghoHlu’, ngachlu’, Qochqu’lu’; Hochvam luchIw qa’vam. *anaideia* - nuv wIHchoHmoH ‘ej qeHHa’qangbe’moH *anaideia*. batlhHa’ vangmo’ vay’, webchoH, ‘ach SaHbe’; nuvvaD ‘e’ qaSmoH qa’vam. *androktasiai* - che’ronDaq peqlu’taHvIS, belchoH qa’pu’vam. *angelia* - QInmey, De’ chu’, vepmey je qa’. *apate* - tojlu’, tojlu’meH ‘onglu’, nuvvaD lo’laHbogh vay’ lonmoHlu’meH qoj DIbna’Daj mub lonmoHlu’meH tojlu’; ghu’meyvam ‘oS *apate*. tojta’ghach qa’. *apheleia* - vay’ napmoH qa’vam. ~ Dana'an *pa'logh yIn zeus, DaH yIn zeus, tuch yIn zeus; 'o zeus Dun!*

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tlhIl
by James Landau 16 Jun '21

16 Jun '21

@Steven: Don't forget these two: patmor - n - emerald DItlhon - n - ruby

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Klingon Word of the Day: Hutlh
by Klingon Word of the Day 15 Jun '21

15 Jun '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 15, 2021 Klingon word: Hutlh Part of speech: verb Definition: lack, be without Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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