December 2016 - tlhIngan-Hol

Klingon Word of the Day: qoq De'wI' Dojmey
by qurgh＠wizage.net 06 Dec '16

06 Dec '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, December 06, 2016 Klingon word: qoq De'wI' Dojmey Part of speech: noun Definition: botnet (computer jargon) Source: qepHom 2015 p.21 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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A terrible mistake
by mayqel qunenoS 06 Dec '16

06 Dec '16

*souvlaki*mey vunDI' ghot, pIj Qagh 'ej Saghqu' Qaghvam.. *souvlaki*meyDaq *tzatziki* 'anyan 'oQqar je lulanbe'lu'chugh vaj *souvlaki* bIHbe' *souvlaki*vam'e'. maj ! vItvam Dun vIDelta'mo', DaH jIQonglaH.. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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You definitely need a cat
by mayqel qunenoS 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

toH ! qaStaH qImroq bIr, 'ej qImroqvammo' bIrqu' pa'lIj.. DaghunmoHmeH qul Daq Dachu', 'ej tugh tujchoH pa'lIj. ..'ej ngoQlIj Data'ta'mo' bIQuch, qar'a'. bImuj !!! pa'vam ghun DatIvmeH vIghro' Daghaj net 'utmoH ! reH ghu' DublaH vIghro' tun.. hahaha ! 'ej QongtaHvIS vIghro'vam, leSmeH wab lIngtaHmo', wabvammo' bIleSlaH je ! hehehe qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: lobHa'
by qurgh＠wizage.net 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, December 05, 2016 Klingon word: lobHa' Part of speech: verb Definition: disobey Source: TKD (92 KE, 129 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Is the {telDaq wovmoHwI'} legal ?
by mayqel qunenoS 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

At the BoP poster we have {telDaq wovmoHwI'} for "wing light". Doesn't this violate the rule that in a noun-noun construction only the last can have type-5 suffixes ? qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is the {telDaq wovmoHwI'} legal
by Michael Kúnin 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

As mentioned before in this list, it can be analysed as {[telDaq wovmoH]wI'}, so it is perfectly legal. P.S. To avoid confusion: {mayqel qunenoS} and I are different persons.

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'eQway' 'echlet
by qurgh＠wizage.net 04 Dec '16

04 Dec '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, December 04, 2016 Klingon word: 'eQway' 'echlet Part of speech: noun Definition: mouse pad Source: qepHom 2015 p.19 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Do you use olive oil ?
by mayqel qunenoS 04 Dec '16

04 Dec '16

jISIv.. 'elaDya'Daq, mavutmeH olive oil wIlo'taH, jatlhmo' tejpu': porghvaD QaQqu' olive oil. 'amerI'qa'Daq latlh SepmeyDaq je nuq oil Sar bolo'taH. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Clarifying the {'e'}
by mayqel qunenoS 04 Dec '16

04 Dec '16

the reason which makes me daily inflict on this list, every possible subject I am able to think of, is because I'm hoping through writing klingon to discover areas of grammar that continue to elude me.. yesterday, this goal was achieved when at another thread the following sentence was written: SuStel: > *qo'vam'e' yInvam'e' je jIH mubechmoH bIH* > *as for this world and life, they make me suffer* at first I wasn't able to understand it, but as soon as I read SuStel's explanation (and realized what's going on), I was shocked to realize how ignorant I was with regards to the true nature of {'e'}. So, I want to discuss this further.. pelaD ! So far, I knew that nouns carrying a type-5 suffix are always placed at the beginning of the sentence. Words carrying the {-vaD}, {-Daq}, {-vo'}, {-mo'}.. And I could certainly understand the reason. But I never had considered a noun carrrying the {-'e'}, being put at the start.. In fact, until yesterday, the only uses of the {'e'} I was aware of were: 1. to emphasize a noun, regardless its position in the sentence. 2. to clarify in a sentence with the {-bogh} who does what to whom. 3. its role in nouns which would follow the {'oH} and the {ghaH}. So far so good.. but when I read SuStel's sentence, my world came upside down. lets read it again: SuStel: > *qo'vam'e' yInvam'e' je jIH mubechmoH bIH* > *as for this world and life, they make me suffer* I began to ask myself: what's happening here ? we have nouns put at the beginning of the sentence carrying the {'e'}, and as a result obtaing the translation "as for the (noun)..". And as a result of this translation, the rest of the sentence starts to revolve around this/these nouns. So, if my understanding of this use of {'e'} is correct, I can write: SoSlI''e' vIghro'lIj HoHta' as for your mother, she killed your cat vIghro''e' bo'DeghDaj Sopta' as for the cat, it ate his bird SoH'e', verengan Ha'DIbaH SoH. as for you, you're a ferengi dog. So, I would like to ask: SuStel (or anyone else), are the above sentences correct ? is my understanding of this use of {'e'} correct ? because if it is, oh if it is ! I will explode from happiness having discovered something entirely new, which I've been ignoring during my entire klingon life ! (as short yet fruitful as it may be..) hehehe qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Is the {je} necessary ?
by mayqel qunenoS 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

suppose I want to say: "this world, this life, I hate them". there are two ways to proceed: {qo'vam yInvam je vImuS} {qo'vam yInvam vImuS} I am wondering whether the {je} is necessary, thus making the second sentence wrong. I understand that perhaps at the second sentence one could get the meaning that "I hate this life", and being left to wonder what's the story with the {qo'vam}. but I think that context would clarify that. or perhaps without the {je}, someone could read "I hate this life of this world". but again, would this possible ambiguity be the problem, or is there some grammar reason because of which I should use the {je} ? perhaps I want this ambiguity, perhaps I find the feeling of this sentence to be better without the {je}.. so, all I want to know is "is the {je} necessary" ? is there some grammar reason because of which it is necessary ? qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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