November 2016 - tlhIngan-Hol

magic and magicians
by Lieven 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

At the qepHom 2016, we were happy to learn the word for magic, {'IDnar}. As a coincidence, one of the attendees is a famous professional magician, so the immediate and obvious first question was: What do you call a magician? Few days ago, it was the magician's 40th birthday, and Marc... ehm, sorry, Maltz made this information his birthday present: --- begin quote --- I talked with Maltz about magic a little bit, and here's what he had to say: A true wizard or sorcerer – like in Harry Potter – is a ’IDnar pIn’a’. To conjure or to cast a spell, which is what wizards do, is reS. So a wizard or sorcerer can also be called a reSwI’. A spell, in this sense, is tlheH. One can say either tlheH reS or just reS alone for "he/she casts a spell." Maltz wasn’t sure if there is anything besides tlheH that can be the object of reS, since Maltz isn’t a ’IDnar pIn’a’, but maybe there is. The most common way to refer to a magician, like Kalibo, is mIn yuqwI’ (yuq is “outwit, outsmart”). (A mIn tojwI’ is an “optical illusion.”) Another expression for “magician” is ’IDnar lIlwI’. lIl is a verb meaning something like “simulate, impersonate.” The idea is one of doing something such that the subject of the verb looks or behaves like something (or someone) else or represents something (or someone) else. The word has no connotation of fraud or anything underhanded (in this respect, it’s like ghet). The object is the thing being simulated or the person being impersonated. lIlwI’ (“simulator,” for lack of a better term) is different from lIw (“substitute”) since lIw implies replacement (the notion of “instead of”) while a lIlwI’ doesn’t replace anyone or anything. So “perform magic” (as Kalibo does) is mIn yuq or ’IDnar lIl. (’IDnar pIn’a’ lIl would be “he/she impersonates a wizard [non-fraudulently].” Another word Maltz thought of as we were talking about all of this is yut “distract, create a diversion.” The object of this verb, when there is an object, is the person or group of people (usually) being distracted. [...personal messages removed] Happy Birthday to Kalibo. - Marc PS - My favorite sentence at the moment is “They are (continuously and with some sort of goal in mind) impersonating you (plural).” --- end quote --- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net

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The latlh
by mayqel qunenoS 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

There is something I can't understand with regards to the {latlh}. first, lets read these canon examples: {reH latlh qabDaq qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS} the fire is always hotter on someone else's face {latlh HIvje'Daq 'Iw HIq bIr yIqang} pour the cold bloodwine into another glass I want to ask: 1. the {latlh qabDaq} and the {latlh HIvje'Daq} mean ONLY "the face of another" and "the glass of another" respectively, or do/can they mean as well "an additional face" and "an additional glass" ? In case you wonder why I'm asking.. Suppose I want to say "for us there is an additional enemy", so I write {maHvaD latlh jagh tu'lu'}. Does this klingon sentence mean indeed "for us there is an additional enemy", or does it actually mean "for us there is an enemy of another", which doesn't make sense ? qunnoH jan puqloD

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qImroq bIr'e' 'IghmoHbogh qeylIS
by mayqel qunenoS 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

qImroq bIr'e' 'IghmoHbogh qeylIS (..or else g** d*mn winter) DaH, bIrqu' muD Dotlh 'ej SISqu'taH; 'ach yaHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH, tugh qaStaHvIS wa'maH vagh tup jIyIt net poQ. juHwIjDaq jIratlh vIneH, QIt qa'vInwIj tuj vItlhutlh vIneH 'ej jIHDaq much vIbej vIneH. jIvum vIneHbej; jIvumtaHvIS reH jIbel, capricorn jIHmo'. 'ach muD Dotlhvam vImuS. pIj, jIghel'egh 'ej Sughel je; qatlh wej wey jolpat lu'oghlu'pu'. 'a chaq tughel: wey jolpat tu'lu' net jalchugh Dalo'qang ? hmm.. jISovbe'.. chaq vIlo'vIp. Sov 'Iv. 'ach mIqta'meyvam tu'lu' net jalchugh vaj vogh wIjaH wIneHDI', wa' DuH potlh wIghaj: lo'chaj. 'ach, DaH, qaSpu' poH nI' 'ej jImej. 'ut. Do' SISbe'choH.. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Marc Okrand narrates audio tour for the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum
by Felix Malmenbeck 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

Marc Okrand recently translated and recorded descriptions off the Smithsonian's new GO FLIGHT app. They can be listened to here: https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/explore-museum-klingon Text is available in the app. I've spotted three new words that will need analyzing (and there could be more; I´m quite sleepy). Should I write them up here or follow some 30-day rule? //loghaD

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maghwI' chaH
by mayqel qunenoS 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

rurchuq autobots, superman je. qatlh. rapmo' chaH. qatlh rap. maghwI' chaHmo'. qatlh maghwI' chaH. Humanpu'vaD vInDa'chaj maghta'mo'. not novpu'vaD vInDa'pu'lI' Damagh. 'e' DaqaSmoHQo'chugh, vaj maghwI' neH SoHbe'; veQna' SoH. qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Thoughts on {vaj}
by mayqel qunenoS 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

At another thread the {vaj} was discussed, and in particular its nature as an adverb. an adverb which describes the verb as an effect/result of another (previous) action/situation. example: {pa' 'el 'avwI' vaj jISuvrupchoH} the guard entered the room, so I became ready to fight. so far so good.. I realized however that everything we can describe by the {vaj} can be described by the {-mo'}. {pa' 'elmo' 'avwI', jISuvrupchoH} because the guard entered the room, I became ready to fight. again here we have the "my becoming ready to fight" being the result of the guard entering the room. and perhaps one could go further to say that the meaning conveyed by the {vaj} is conveyed through various other means: {pa' 'elDI' 'avwI', jISuvrupchoH} {pa' 'el 'avwI', ghIq jISuvrupchoH} {pa' 'el 'avwI', ngugh jISuvrupchoH} the only difference between the {vaj}/{mo'} method, and the last three is perhaps that the {vaj}/{mo'} are more direct, while the rest only imply/indirectly mean that the guard's entrance to the room was the reason of my "becoming ready to fight". so, that's my understanding of {vaj}. are my conclusions/observations correct ? qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: pem
by qurgh＠wizage.net 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, November 27, 2016 Klingon word: pem Part of speech: noun Definition: daytime Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Intransitive verbs with {-chuq}
by mayqel qunenoS 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

if I want to say "the roads are perpendicular to each other", and I write {leDchuq tawmey} would it be correct ? I am under the impression that someone can use the {-chuq} only with transitive verbs. qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghoq
by qurgh＠wizage.net 26 Nov '16

26 Nov '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, November 26, 2016 Klingon word: ghoq Part of speech: verb Definition: spy, spy on Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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The sacred institution of the canon master
by mayqel qunenoS 26 Nov '16

26 Nov '16

muqeHHa'jaj ghantoH pIn'a', pIj 'e' vIghItlh. 'ej chaq vIghellu': qatlh mu'meyvam DaghItlhtaH ? jIjangmeH, mIllogh vIDelnIS; jIHvaD ghantoH pIn'a' qawmoHbogh mIllogh.. pirates of the caribbean much Dabejpu''a' ? 'ay'vam ghaj muchvam: raSDaq ba' pirates law', 'ej qay'wI' lujuSmeH jatlhtaH. He chup wa' 'ach pirate chut bIv piratevam. SIbI' ghaHvaD jatlhlu': pirate chut DabIvba' ! 'a jang: jISaHbe' ! DaH, pa'vamDaq ba'lu'taH.. pirate chut pIn'a' ! 'ej {jISaHbe'} QoyDI', chut bIvwI' HoH ! ngugh jatlh: Hoch 'oH chut'e' ! jIHvaD, pirate chut pIn'a'vam qawmoH voragh.. 'ej tlhIngan vaS'a'Daq maba'taHvIS 'ej tlhIngan Hol wIlo'taHvIS, tlhIngan Hol paq'a' 'uchtaH ! mapabchu'meH reH nunuDtaH, vaj wIQeHmoHbe'meH mayeptaH, net poQ. SKI: always our honorable canon master, reminds me the master of the pirate law at the pirates of the caribbean movie. when a pirate intentionally broke the law and said "I don't care", the master of the pirate law immediately shot him and told: the law is everything ! while we're sitting at the klingon great hall and use klingon, our honorable canon master holds the book of our law and watches us.. may we be careful, so that we follow the rules and not anger him ! the canon is the law, and the law is everything ! hahaha qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

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