while I was inflicting on this list some message yesterday, this beautiful workaround suddenly appeared in my mind. In english (and greek) there is the phrase "as expected"; a good way to say this in klingon, is by the workaround which suddenly appeared in my mind yesterday: {silmarillion 'ay' wa'DIch vIlaDta', 'ej vIparHa' net pIHchugh vaj lughbej} so, the formula would be {yadda yadda yadda net pIHchugh vaj lughbej}. qunnoH jan puqloD