November 2021 - tlhIngan-Hol

Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon food vocabulary
by James Landau 23 Nov '21

23 Nov '21

>From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin(a)gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon food vocabulary>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 07:31, James Landau <savegraduation(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >majQa'! qatlho'! >The Arabic word for bulgur is pronounced like {borghel}. It is a food item, >and it's sometimes fed to birds, but has nothing really to do with their >eggs. There are a number of dishes cooked with both bulgur and quail eggs, >but that's a rather weak connection. Maybe Okrand just thought they looked >like tiny bird eggs. That's interesting -- quite a likely connection, it seems! I had a thought: *borgh* is probably how the Star Trek word "borg" would be rendered in Klingon (hurray for the ability to end words in the cluster -rgh!) *el* sounds like the Semitic root for god/God. Borg god, referring to the Borg Queen? (Just from what I've heard bits and pieces of elsewhere, as I've never watched the show). So what's the relevance of that? Well, on a conworlding and conlanging forum I frequent, we were discussing silicon-based life not long ago, and someone referenced a Star Trek episode that involved a planet with silicon-based life. I don't remember the name of the planet, but every few decades/centuries? every live silicon-based organism dies except one, who takes care of the eggs that will be hatched. The eggs look something like metal balls, and the guardian of the eggs looks like a rusty red rock. The Starship Enterprise explorers start cracking and killing the eggs until one of them telepathically locks with the egg-guardian, who explains that she is alive and these are the eggs they're killing. So maybe a bird with edible eggs had the name *borghel* chosen because there's something egg-related about the borgs, or specifically their queen (Borg-el)? I see that Lieven has been working on the wiki page. Good. The food vocabulary page could always use some more eyes. However, I noticed that many of the non-borrowing fruit words (cherry, grapefruit, pomegranate, etc.) are now missing from the page. What happened to them? >There are some famous people named Borgel, including a Swiss watchmaker and >a family of Tunisian rabbis, but again, nothing to do with birds or eggs >that I could find. Just about any combination of sounds can be a surname for some person on this planet or another, so I agree with you that the surname Borgel is unlikely to have to do with the bird called a borghel.

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{'e' qa'} "instead of" with the {qa'} bearing suffixes
by mayqel qunen'oS 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

Suppose I write: {pu' DIlo'; yan DIlo' 'e' qa'chugh, maQap} if we use phasers instead of swords, we'll win Would this be correct/acceptable? -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] {'e' qa'} "instead of" with the {qa'} bearing suffixes
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

De'vID: > The sentence says nothing about *using* the phasers instead of knives, but it could work if the context is supplied, e.g., {nuH DIlo'bogh DIwivDI', pu'vaD yan DIqa'moHchugh, maQap} or something like that. Ok, thank you for taking the time to answer!

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Klingon Word of the Day: Qob
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, November 22, 2021 Klingon word: Qob Part of speech: noun Definition: danger Source: TKD (104 KE, 127 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: woSwa' ghew
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, November 20, 2021 Klingon word: woSwa' ghew Part of speech: noun Definition: woodlouse-like bug, pillbug-like bug, rolling bug Source: QelIS boqHarmey This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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the measure of all things
by mayqel qunen'oS 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

Man is the measure of all things. (Protagoras, ancient Greek philosopher) Human potlh law' Hoch potlh puS. (𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘢𝘨𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘴, 'elaDya' tIQ vIt nejwI') -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: wIlpuq
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, November 21, 2021 Klingon word: wIlpuq Part of speech: noun Definition: pudding Source: Marc Okrand to Lawrence M. Schoen at qep'a' 2008 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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because we're mortal
by mayqel qunen'oS 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

As mortals we should behave as mortals. (Euripides, Ancient Greek tragedian) majubbe'mo', jubbe'wI' DIDanIS. - (𝘦𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘱𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘴, 'elaDya' tIQ lot lut qonwI') -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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{'e' qa'} "instead of" with the verbs bearing suffixes
by mayqel qunen'oS 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

I don't think there could be any problem with this, but I'll ask just to make certain. {tlhIngan Hol vIlo'taH; 'elaDya' Hol tIQ vIlo'choH 'e' qa'} I continuously use klingon, instead of beginning to learn ancient greek Would there be any problem with the above? I'm asking since there were no verb suffixes on the given Ca'Non examples which came together with the {'e' qa'}. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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I really hope the cat will drag in more than this..
by mayqel qunen'oS 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

The cat just dragged in this: http://klingon.wiki/En/NewWordsQepHom2021 And I told her, "what?!?!?! that's it???". And then her paw showed me the following: "The con package of the meeting was delayed due to delivery problems of its contents, so the list of new words has not yet arrived". I really hope this "list of new words" doesn't refer to the words which have been already recently disclosed. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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