October 2021 - tlhIngan-Hol

squid game
by mayqel qunen'oS 15 Oct '21

15 Oct '21

e Right now, drop whatever you're doing, and go watch the "Squid Game". Seriously. Don't argue, don't object, just do it. Do it now. You'll thank me later. Or don't thank me at all. I don't give a shit. But just watch it. And if you need further convincing, here are the trailer and teasers, for Netflix's most watched series, (which in case you're wondering is the "Squid Game", which you should have already watched): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqxAJKy0ii4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oFn2eodVD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siNr47WV0Wk t DaH *DaH* Hoch Qu' Daturbogh yIlon, 'ej squid game yIbejchoH. jISagh. peQochQo', pebepQo', 'a qeSwIj yIpab. DaH yIpab. ghIq HItlho'. pagh HItlho'Qo'. jISaHbe'chu' jay'. 'a DaH squid game yIbej. 'ej boponnISlu'chugh, naDev bIHtaH trailer teasers je Daq'e'. netflix lut mIr bejwI'pu''e' wa' lut mIr bejwI'pu' law' law' Hoch law' puS. 'ej lut mIrvam pong boSovmeH, SuSIvchugh, tlhIHvaD pongvam vI'otHa', 'ej squid game 'oH pongvam'e'. ('ej wejHa' lut mIrvam bobejpu'; qaSpu'be'chugh, qay'). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqxAJKy0ii4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oFn2eodVD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siNr47WV0Wk -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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expressing "especially"
by mayqel qunen'oS 15 Oct '21

15 Oct '21

Something which I wondered some time ago, was how to express "especially". "thalaron radiation is an alien weapon, especially of the remans" One way to approach this is by writing in detail what "especially of the remans" actually means. For example "used mainly by the remans", "mostly developed by the remans", "having been made known by the remans", etc.. On the other hand, perhaps we could avoid going from New York to Los Angeles through Chile, by simply writing: nov nuH 'oH thalaron woj'e', 'ej rIymuSngan nuH 'oHchu'. Of course, if anyone has a better idea, then qeylIS knows, I'd love to hear it. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: lugh
by Klingon Word of the Day 15 Oct '21

15 Oct '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, October 15, 2021 Klingon word: lugh Part of speech: verb Definition: be right, be correct Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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this is killing me I need to ask
by mayqel qunen'oS 15 Oct '21

15 Oct '21

You're a native american. In your everyday speech with your wife, friends, etc, do you say "with regard" or "with regards"? ('amerI'qa'nganna' SoH. qaStaHvIS Hoch jaj yIn, be'nallI'vaD juppu'lI'vaD latlh(pu')vaD joq bIjatlhtaHvIS, < with regard > bIjatlh'a'? pagh <with regards > bIjatlh'a'?) -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'Iv
by Klingon Word of the Day 14 Oct '21

14 Oct '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, October 14, 2021 Klingon word: 'Iv Part of speech: ques Definition: who? Source: TKD (116 KE, 120 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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'elaDya' lalDan - lam'a' Say'choHghach je ~ 'ay' vagh
by mayqel qunen'oS 14 Oct '21

14 Oct '21

vaj porgh Say’ bop lam’a’, ‘ach jaSHa’ Qunpu’ cholmeH laH bop je. ‘elaDya’ lalDan turwI’pu’ Hoch jaj yIn SIgh ‘elaDya’ lalDan; ‘ej qo’vam jemtaHghach luSIgh Say’taHghach lam’a’ je. vaj ‘elaDya’ lalDan turwI’pu’vaD qo’vam jemtaHghach SIghchu’ ‘elaDya’ lalDan, ‘ej tagha’ lalDan qo’ lujemchoH ‘elaDya’ lalDan turwI’. nItwI’pu’ (Qunpu’) qo’ lunaw’meH nuvpu’, ‘ej nuvpu’vaD lam’a’ ngejmoHpu’DI’ Hoch jaj yIn, nIt’eghchoHmoH nuvpu’ chaHvaD ‘e’ poQ ‘elaDya’ lalDan. Qunpu’ qo’ naw’ vuS ‘ej SIgh nItchoHmeH mIw; lam’a’ luqaSmoH boghmoHmeH mIw, Hegh, chImeH mIw, ‘op Soj, ngaghmeH mIw je. vaj Say’nIStaH/nItnIStaH nuv qa’, yab, porgh je, ‘ej Hochvam nItHa’moHbogh Hoch junnISchu’ nuv. vatlh DIS poH loSDIch *cyrene*Daq, Dorbogh vatlh DIS poH cha’DIch *delos*Daq, vatlh DIS poH wejDIch *ledos*Daq je be’ ngaghchugh loD, qoj boghmoHbogh be’ cholchugh loD, nItHa’choH loDvam; *cyrene*Daq tlhoghpu’DI’ be’, ‘annISmoH vay’. motlh *delos*Daq be’pu’mo’ qaS lam’a’; nItHa’moH chIbogh be’pu’, ‘ej nItHa’moH je yatlhbogh be’pu’, ‘ej yatlhtaHvIS, Hegh ghuchaj. ‘ach nItHa’moH je mu’tlhegh meSvamDaq Hoch latlh Dellu’pu’bogh, ‘ej nItHa’moH je ghotI’ luSoplu’bogh, Suy’ luSoplu’bogh je *delos*Daq net Har. DaH latlh jatlhnISlu’ je: nItHa’moHlaH be’pu’, ‘ach nItHa’moHlaH je loDpu’ *lindos*Daq *cyrene*Daq net Har je. vaj Heghpu’bogh tuqnIghDaj (loDpu’ be’pu’ joq) cholpu’chugh vay,’ qay’ *lindos*Daq *cyrene*Daq net Har. DaH ghellaH vay’: < Qunpu’ quvmoHchoHpa’ nuv, chay’ nIt’eghnISmoH? nuq ‘oH mIw’e’ pabnISbogh? > wa’DIch, -tay lopchoHpa’ nuv, Daq nIt ‘elpa’, chIrgh cholpa’, ‘anmoHmeH qachHom SumchoHpa’- porghDaj Say’moHmeH, HaH’eghnIS. ‘ach tay nItchu’ghach chavqangbejchugh nuv, yapbe’; *khernips* chennISmoH ‘ej lo’nIS nuv. bIQ nIt ‘oH *khernips*‘e’, ‘ej Daqmey nIt (‘anmoHmeH qachHom, chIrgh Daqmey Sum) ‘elpa’ nuv, ghopDu’Daj qabDaj je Say’moHmeH nuv, bIQvam nIt lo’nIS, ‘ej bIQvam nIt lo’taHvIS, mIw SeQ pabnIS; Hoch Sar tay lopchoHpa’ nuv, bIQvam nIt lo’ net poQ. *khernips* chenmoHlu’meH, cha’ nItmoHmeH qurme’ lulo’lu’: qul bIQ je. roD nItmoHbogh qurme’ bIH qul’e’ bIQ’e’ je net Sov, ‘ej Say’choHmoHmo’ pIvchoHmoHmo’ ‘ej nItchoHmoHmo’ qul, potlhchu’ qul.. ngeD *khernips* chenmoHmeH mIw; vabDot juHDaq ghaHtaHvIS vay”e’, bIQvam nIt chenmoHlaH. mIw: maHpInDaq bIQ lan nuv; bIQ’a’ bIQ, ghItbogh bIQ (ghantoH: bIQtIq bIQ) ghap ‘oHchugh bIQvam’e’, qaq. ‘ach chaq Sarvam bIQ SamlaHbe’ nuv, vaj juHDajDaq qutmey na’, bIQ motlh je DuDlaH, ‘ej bIQvam lo’laH, pagh bIQ SeHjan bIQ motlh neH lo’laH. ghIq bIQ DungDaq meQchoHmeH San’emDerHom(mey) (lu)QaDlu’pu’bogh, San’emDerHom(mey)vamDaq qul chu’. San’emDerHom(mey)vam SamlaHbe’chugh nuv, jaSHa’ lalDan tlhIch Hap lo’laH, pagh por bartIqHom ghap QeDlu’pu’bogh lo’laH je. Hochvam meQchoHmoHpu’DI’ nuv, qul chu’Ha’meH, maHpIn bIQDaq vay’vam meQchoHmoHpu’bogh ‘oqmoH, ‘ej vay’vam ‘oqchoHmoHtaHvIS nuv, jatlh < yInItchoH >. ghIq Say’eghmoHmeH nuv, bIQvam lo’choH; wa’DIch ghopDu’Daj Say’moH, ghIq qabDaj Say’moH, ‘ej Say’eghmoHmeH nuv, jatlhlaH < jISay’eghmoHmeH, bIQ nIt vIlo’ >. ghIq tay DaqDaq tay jeSwI’pu’Daq je bIQvam nIt ghay nuv, jatlhtaHvIS < naDevvo’ peghoS, Hoch qa’pu’ mIgh >, pagh < naDevvo’ peghoS peghoS, nItHa’wI’ >. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: mIvwa'
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Oct '21

13 Oct '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, October 13, 2021 Klingon word: mIvwa' Part of speech: noun Definition: scar (result of a wound, regardless of how the wound occurred), score, tally Source: qep'a' 24, qep'a' 25 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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qepHom: The Legacy
by Lieven L. Litaer 13 Oct '21

13 Oct '21

Hello everybody, a few weeks ago I announced the crowdfunding campaign for the movie we are making for the 20th anniversary qepHom next year. So in case anyone had said "I'll do that later", this is a reminder that this later is NOW! ;-) The campaign will end on October 17, 2021. So for anyone interested, here is the campaign: https://www.startnext.com/en/qephom-film For more information on the film, see: http://www.qephom.de/TheLegacy -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland

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Unicode, pIqaD, and Paramount
by Mark E. Shoulson 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

(This is probably going to be long, even for me.) So. Some weeks back, I submitted a request to Unicode (https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2021/21155-klingon-req.pdf) that they rescind their decision saying Klingon would *not* be encoded, thus getting off the "Not the Roadmap" list (https://www.unicode.org/alloc/nonapprovals.html) so it wouldn't be singled out as a script not to be encoded. I did this on the advice of one of the Unicode folks some years back (https://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2016-m11/0091.html) who said that this would have to be done before anything else. However, Unicode declined to do so (recommendation of the Script Ad-Hoc near the bottom of https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2021/21174-script-adhoc-rept.pdf.) (In response, I kicked off the mailing-list discussion at https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2021-September/thread.html#9571, which you may read for your own amusement.) Basically, they are not going to *touch* this until that pesky problem of Paramount IP is resolved. So we're going to have to put some effort into that. For those new to the story, this is about getting pIqaD encoded in the Unicode Standard, the standard used by modern computer platforms to exchange characters in all kinds of languages. The problem is that Paramount/CBS is a big scary company with lots and lots of lawyers and a huge bankroll, and Unicode is afraid of doing anything that might maybe perhaps lead someone there to consider thinking about the tiniest possibility of perhaps suing someone (Unicode or a user of the Standard) for IP violations, on the grounds that We Own All Things Star-Trek. I know, I know. There's no way Paramount could legally sue, you can't copyright typefaces and Unicode isn't encoding the typeface anyway; you can't copyright a language; "Klingon" is a trademark, but we could call them "PIQAD LETTER AY" instead; a million other reasons why this concern is invalid. It *doesn't matter*. The fact is that Unicode is not going to do anything until they're satisfied that Paramount isn't a danger, and all the legal and logical arguments in the world aren't going to change that. This seems to be an issue when people first hear about this. Disabuse yourself of the idea that we can somehow do without getting Paramount's buy-in. Whatever clever argument or loophole you think you've found, it doesn't matter. Unicode won't be happy until they're happy, and arguing with them will only get you more annoyed. Now, I *have* in fact attempted to get Paramount to agree to this. Qov and ghunchu'wI' were able to give me emails of some people at Paramount from their Discovery work, and I wrote to them. And they said I should write to someone else, who told me to ask someone else... and so on, climbing the ladder of authority at Paramount, until I reached someone who may actually have been able to do it—and they never wrote back to me, despite repeated attempts to engage. Couldn't get anything. This could be a very difficult situation. Paramount has *no* incentive whatsoever to do anything of the kind, and the very idea of even hinting at abdicating rights over any IP that could maybe under some weird frame of mind might possibly be theirs surely goes against every grain they have. Paramount doesn't care about people using or not using pIqaD, it has no reason to make it easier. (You know whose job it is to make sure people can communicate in their own orthographies? Unicode's. And they're not doing it.) Just the idea of running this past their legal department... it's hard to imagine them seriously considering it. As I see it, the only path forward we have at this point is to try to put a little pressure on Paramount. We can't put much. But I was thinking of getting a petition on change.org or something and somehow collecting a lot of signatures. It's going to take more than just one or two hundred, I think. But if somehow we can raise consciousness about this, get a strongly-supported petition, maybe they'll listen. I'm looking for help with this, as I'm really awful at completing things on my own. Now, as I see it, there are three documents that need to be prepared for this: 1. The petition cover letter. This is what people see on change.org, what they are signing their names to. It needs to make our case, but hopefully to a potentially friendly audience. If we can convince people who start out unfriendly, so much the better. This document *must* contain a FAQ section which repeats, over and over and in small words, that we don't need to hear about why this is not necessary, or about ways of somehow presenting it in such a way that Unicode won't insist on hearing from Paramount. People can't resist trying to offer such solutions. I won't say that *all* these arguments have been tried already, but a lot have, and the bottom line is legal and rational arguments won't help. (See, I already repeated it again for readers here just in the description!) 2. The letter to Paramount. Signers should see this, too (and for that matter they should also see the third document); it's relevant to what they're asking. Somehow this needs to make our case to a much less friendly audience, presumably talking about the importance of good relationships with their fan-base, their reputation, blah blah blah. In some fashion make the point to them. 3. A draft of the statement we want them to sign. There's no point going in with "we need something that sorta says this" and Unicode says "not good enough." We might as well spell out exactly what we're asking them to say, and somehow hope they'll say it. https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2020/20169-script-adhoc-rept.pdf (near the bottom) says that what they want is "clear proof that Paramount would not pursue legal action against the Unicode Consortium, or anyone who implements the script." So presumably that's what it would have to say. Considering the time it'll take to collect signatures, I would assume I could show the putative statement to the Unicode folks and get confirmation that it's at least satisfactory on their side. I guess email me, or something; we need a smallish mailing list for a group of people working on this. I guess I'll create some Google Docs we can share and comment on and polish, etc. (If this really is impossible, as it may be, I imagine we'd have to write a petition to Unicode, and get a lot of people to sign it, and also get some press coverage somehow that will generate public support for us instead of sneers. Maybe if we present it as "a community of people" and only reveal it's Klingon at the end? Ooh, that could make a nice advertising letter.) Anyway, that's where we stand. We have to get some assurance from Paramount, somehow. If you can help, well, help. Thanks ~mark

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paq'batlh 2nd edition
by De'vID 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

As some of you know, I've been working on the 2nd edition of the paq'batlh. For various reasons, I need to take a break from this project, so I'm looking for a volunteer to take over. The person would need to have access to Adobe Acrobat or otherwise software which allows the adding and editing of comments in a PDF file. The publisher has requested that all the changes be marked up as comments in a PDF of the 1st edition. Most of it is done, but there are still some corrections which have been finalised which have to be added, and a few outstanding questions for Dr. Okrand and the publishers to answer. Here's a link to the spreadsheet which I'm using to keep track of changes. Note that these are not finalised until the 2nd edition is actually out, but it should give you an idea of which commonly suspected errors in the 1st edition have been confirmed as such by Dr. Okrand: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eQp1LrWfZD3HaWhrno4_Hi0qXhWFy7bfGqG… -- De'vID

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