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{-meH}ed nouns with {-chuq}
by mayqel qunen'oS 07 May '20

07 May '20

We know, we can have a {-meH}ed noun in the following way: {QongmeH Duj} But could we {-meH} a verb which has the {-chuq} ? Example: {nga'chuqmeH mIw bopbe' ruSchaj} their relation isn't about sex Of course, we could say {ngaghmeH mIw} instead, but then we wouldn't have an example to ask the question, would we ? ~ mayqel qunen'oS jedi scum, may the fourth is over; today, is the revenge of the fifth !!!

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Klingon Word of the Day: Dung
by Klingon Word of the Day 06 May '20

06 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, May 06, 2020 Klingon word: Dung Part of speech: noun Definition: area above, area overhead Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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T-shirt art for qep'a'
by David Holt 05 May '20

05 May '20

This is an open call for T-shirt art. We have a few pieces of art in storage in case of anything, but we would love to work with an artist to create something specific for this year's qep'a'. Basically our space will be 12" x 12" and can be in full color (or not). There will be some required text, but we can help you with that if need be. Anyone out there want to create and submit some art that people can proudly wear? Please contact me directly! Jeremy (janSIy)

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Klingon Word of the Day: taH
by Klingon Word of the Day 05 May '20

05 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, May 05, 2020 Klingon word: taH Part of speech: verb Definition: continue, go on, endure, survive Source: TKD (109 KE, 143 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] tlhIngan Hol DajatlhtaHvIS nItlhejpu' 'Iv? / Counting conversant speakers
by De'vID 05 May '20

05 May '20

Recently it came up in conversation about whether there are "generations" of Klingon speakers. (It came up because I have a son, who now knows a little bit of Klingon.) This made me think of a message I sent way back in 2013 (quoted in entirety) below, which didn't get a lot of responses at the time. (Just four other people supplied their info, which isn't enough to build a detailed picture.) Do people think of (abstract, not biological) "generations" of Klingon speakers? For example, participants in the first few {qep'a'}s seem to form one "generation". I have never been to a {qep'a'}, but I have met several 1st-geners in person, and I joined the mailing list quite early and have participated several times in Lieven's qepHom'a'. So I feel like I'm a 2nd-gener. More recently, there has been something of a boom in interest in Klingon (starting around the time Star Trek Into Darkness came out in 2013), and to me they feel a little bit like another "generation" of speakers. (And maybe there have been multiple, but I haven't noticed.) Does anyone else see things that way? Anyway, I wish I had a social graph of Klingon speakers showing how people know each other (in real life, virtually, etc.) so we can visually see what the community connections look like. Also, I wonder how many children of Klingon speakers also speak Klingon? Are there any biological 3rd-generation Klingon speakers yet (and if not, when will that happen)? On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 at 08:51, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > When people find out I speak Klingon, I am sometimes asked (as I'm > sure you all are) how many people in the world can carry out a > conversation in it. Previously I've given an answer like "about > 20-30", which is what the Internet claims. > > Someone suggested to me that I may actually be able to get a better > number, since Klingon speakers are highly likely to be a tightly > connected social graph. There's a clique[1] of KLI members (likely the > core qep'a' attendees), then a probably larger number of people who > have spoken with someone in the clique (but not to everyone in the > clique), and maybe a few who are two degrees of separation away. Then > there may be other smaller cliques like with Germany qepHom > participants, or various other qepHommey, or Klingon clubs like > Khomerex Klinzhai or KAG or KIDC. > > In the interest of science, and also because the list of Klingonists > on the KLI website is outdated and no longer accessible, can everyone > list the people with whom they've carried out a conversation in > Klingon in person? > > By "conversation" I mean both parties spoke at least one entire > sentence in Klingon to the other one, which was understood and replied > to; and in turn understood and replied in Klingon in a timely fashion > to at least one entire sentence spoken in Klingon. And by "entire > sentence" I mean something with a properly prefixed verb (i.e., more > than just {nuqneH?} or {Qapla'}). By "in a timely fashion" I mean > without spending minutes composing each sentence. By "in person" I > mean either physically face-to-face, or over the phone or Skype or > Google+ Hangout (i.e., the conversation took place in voice, rather > than by typing). I'm being a bit pedantic here, but I want to make > sure everyone is talking about approximately the same thing. > > I'll start. The people I've carried out a conversation in Klingon with are: > - Holtej > - 'ISqu' > - Philip Newton > - Qanqor > - Qov > - Alex Greene > - maybes: Lieven, Felix, Zrajm > > Lieven is an edge case for me, because while we spoke in Klingon to > each other at the qepHom, there were beginners around and he paused to > explain each sentence to them. So I don't think it counts as a proper > conversation. But I'm sure if there were no beginners around we > could've carried out a conversation entirely in Klingon. And also, I > know that he has carried out a conversation entirely in Klingon with > Qov. > > I may also have had conversations with Felix and Zrajm. I definitely > spoke an entire sentence in Klingon to each one, and I think each one > has spoken an entire sentence in Klingon to me. But I don't think we > went back-and-forth in Klingon in a conversational manner, without > mixing in sentences in English, so I'm not counting them. (Unless the > two of you remember otherwise, in which case correct me.) > > I also had several "one-sided conversations" at the Saarbrucken qepHom > where I spoke entirely in Klingon, and the other person replied in > English, or sometimes even in Klingon, but only after spending several > minutes consulting with a dictionary or with other people, so those > don't count as "conversations" by my above definition. > > I can already make a good case for ten conversant Klingon speakers in > the world based on just people I've spoken with, and I know of several > more by reputation, so I'm beginning to think 20 is a low estimate, > although it'll be interesting to see if we can reach 30. > > [1] - I mean in the graph theoretical sense ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clique_(graph_theory) ), but I suppose > also in the social science sense. In layman's terms, there is a number > of KLI members, each of whom has had a conversation with every other. > > -- > De'vID > -- De'vID

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Qugh
by Jackson Bradley 04 May '20

04 May '20

DaHjaj Se'vIr chu' vIlab! «Qugh» 'oH pongDaj'e'. 'oHDaq tlhIngan Hol ghuQ neH cha'lu'. ghuQ qonbogh tlhIngan Hol jatlhwI'pu' vIHev 'e' vImaS 'ach ghuQ lumughlu'bogh vIlajqang je. paqHomvam wa'DIchvaD ghuQ ghaqta' Alan Anderson <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000121611008&__tn__=%2CdK-R-R-R&…> , Jeremy Silver <https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.silver.35?__tn__=%2CdK-R-R-R&eid=ARAjbWivan…>, Ester Lüken, Daniel Dadap <https://www.facebook.com/daniel.dadap?__tn__=%2CdK-R-R-R&eid=ARDxrzS684kadi…> je. ghaqwI'pu'vam vIHoy'! ('ej tlho'!) Today I launched a new publication! It's name is «Qugh.» It exists solely to showcase Klingon language poetry (ideally original, but also translated.) For this first booklet, Alan Anderson <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000121611008&__tn__=%2CdK-R-R-R&…> , Jeremy Silver <https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.silver.35?__tn__=%2CdK-R-R-R&eid=ARAJafERVw…>, Ester Lüken, and Daniel Dadap <https://www.facebook.com/daniel.dadap?__tn__=%2CdK-R-R-R&eid=ARBtM8sCuFzV_6…> all contributed. Congratulations, all! (And thanks!) Qugh 1 is now available for purchase (at cost) on Lulu: https://www.lulu.com/en/ca/shop/alan-anderson-and-hugh-son-puqlod-and-desdu…

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'eSrIv 9
by Jackson Bradley 04 May '20

04 May '20

May's edition of 'eSrIv is up and available for your reading pleasure. yItIv! https://hol.kag.org/page/eSrIv.html -DeSDu'

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Klingon Word of the Day: beQ
by Klingon Word of the Day 04 May '20

04 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, May 04, 2020 Klingon word: beQ Part of speech: verb Definition: be flat Source: TKD-A (181 KE, 188 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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noun-noun constructions with "days ago"
by mayqel qunen'oS 04 May '20

04 May '20

Could we say something like the following? {muQuchmoHpu' cha'Hu' wanI'mey} the events of the day before yesterday made me happy ~ mayqel qunen'oS

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Klingon Word of the Day: mung
by Klingon Word of the Day 03 May '20

03 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, May 03, 2020 Klingon word: mung Part of speech: noun Definition: origin Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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