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Klingon Word of the Day: jIb'egh
by Klingon Word of the Day 27 May '20

27 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, May 27, 2020 Klingon word: jIb'egh Part of speech: verb Definition: suicide by hanging Source: Hamletmachine This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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-lu'wI'
by Jackson Bradley 26 May '20

26 May '20

Hey folks! Big bummer about the qep'a', but I remain hopeful that the positives of a virtual conference will make up for the obvious negatives. People who can't usually join due to financial or time constraints may get the opportunity to participate in whatever the forthcoming programming is. mapIlHa'be'jaj! Working on a project with Kyle Dillion, we brought a question to Maltz regarding the controversial *-lu'wI'. *Basically, we wanted to know if this was a grammatically sound construction. This is what Dr. Okrand had to say: --------Start--------- Regarding *-**lu'wI'* — I checked with Maltz. He said that for poetry (and maybe other literary forms), this sort of thing may occur from time to time, but it's not considered "normal" grammar. This is because the meaning of *-**lu'wI'* (from a Klingon point of view) is odd (but therefore occasionally appropriate for poetry and such). Leaving -*lu'* aside for a while… -*wI'* is defined in TKD as "one who is, one who does, thing which is, thing which does." In all cases, the subject of the verb (to which *-**wI'* is attached) is the doer or the "be-er," the one who performs the action (if it's that kind of verb) or carries or exhibits the characteristic (if it's that other kind of verb). The noun formed by adding *-**wI'* is equivalent to the subject of the verb to which *-**wI'* is attached (as far as meaning goes — not getting into fine points of grammatical description). *yItwI'* "walker" (the subject of *yIt* is the *yItwI'*) *qIpwI'* "hitter" (the subject of *qIp* is the *qIpwI'*) *wochwI'* "tall one" (the subject of *woch* is the *wochwI'*) When *-**lu'* enters the picture, things change. The subject of a verb with *-**lu'* is "unknown, indefinite, and/or general." Thus, *qIplu'* is "someone/something hits (someone or something)" or, conventionally but not really literally, "(someone/something) is hit." So *qIplu'wI'* would mean something like "indefinite hitter" or "unknown hitter" or "essence of hitter" or some such (if it means anything at all). It doesn't refer to the person (or thing) being hit because a *-* *wI'* noun is the perpetrator or instigator of an action (or carrier of a trait), not someone (or something) affected by an action. There may be instances (again, particularly in poetry) where the imagery or notion of an "unknown/indefinite/vague hitter" makes sense, though I can't conjure one up right now (and Maltz doesn't want to try). As for how to say "the hit one, someone who is hit" or "the one who is loved" -- This reminds me of a (pretty funny) book and movie from years ago called "The Loved One" (about the funeral industry in LA). Here, the phrase "the loved one," of course, is a euphemism used by the funeral director for "the deceased person," but the implication is that "the loved one" was loved by whomever the funeral director is talking to (or negotiating with) about the funeral — the deceased person is "the one you love(d)." Points to -*bogh*, I guess. --------End--------- Best, DeSDu'

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can jaH take a person as its' object ?
by mayqel qunen'oS 26 May '20

26 May '20

Suppose I'm in one room, gowron is at another, and I want to say "I go to gowron". Until some time ago, I would have said {ghawran vIjaH}, but recently I started wondering whether {jaH} can indeed take a person as an object. I'm asking, because writing {ghawran vIjaH} gives me the impression that at the end of the {jaH}ing, I'll be actually hugging gowron, standing on him or something similar. If you think about it, whenever you go to a person you are actually approaching him, and at the end of the approaching, the thing which has actually taken place, is that the initial distance has been considerably decreased. But you don't actually go *to* him/her, in the same way you'd go to a place, where you end up standing in/on that place. So, why not say instead {ghawran vIchol} or {ghawran vIghoS} ? ~ mayqel qunen'oS

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Klingon Word of the Day: bor
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 May '20

26 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, May 26, 2020 Klingon word: bor Part of speech: verb Definition: gurgle Source: HQ:v12n4p8 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: wegh
by Klingon Word of the Day 25 May '20

25 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, May 25, 2020 Klingon word: wegh Part of speech: verb Definition: confine Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Breaking news: qep'a' cha'maH SochDIch
by Alan Anderson 24 May '20

24 May '20

Due to ongoing concerns about the COVID-19 pandemic, this year’s qep’a’ will not be a physical gathering. Expect an announcement soon regarding plans for the online event to take its place. Suggestions and offers of help are welcome. For those of you who already arranged your rooms, the hotel is proactively cancelling any reservations made using the conference rate. -- Alan Anderson

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Klingon Word of the Day: maw'
by Klingon Word of the Day 24 May '20

24 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, May 24, 2020 Klingon word: maw' Part of speech: verb Definition: be crazy Source: TKD (94 KE, 126 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghep
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 May '20

23 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, May 23, 2020 Klingon word: ghep Part of speech: verb Definition: hug, embrace Source: qep'a' 26 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Mother's Day message from the Mother of the Klingon Empire
by De'vID 22 May '20

22 May '20

For Mother's Day, {SoS} (Chancellor L'Rell, Mother of the Klingon Empire) sent a personalised message to my wife. As it contains some spoken Klingon, I thought some of you might be interested: https://www.cameo.com/v/Zvtf9z3Z5 This is what she says: {chay' qImroq tuj jajmo' qapatlhmoHchu'? 'IwlIj tuj 'IH HoS, jajvam tuj 'IH puj. Qom ghub Qejlu'bogh jevtaHvIS SuS qu'. 'ej qul DIr Soplu'pu'pa' Dor poH tuj.} -- De'vID

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Klingon Word of the Day: ler
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 May '20

22 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, May 22, 2020 Klingon word: ler Part of speech: verb Definition: wobble, oscillate Source: tlhIngan-Hol Mailing List - De'vID - 01 March 2019 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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