February 2018 - tlhIngan-Hol

Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Expressing "all of us"
by seruq 03 Feb '18

03 Feb '18

But "we", by its nature, refers to more than one entity. vIghro' is singular. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 1/29/18, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun(a)gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Expressing "all of us" To: tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org Date: Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:58 AM DloraH:> I read [Hoch maH] as " all the us's", "all the we's", as in multiple > groups. It is not speaking of the entirety of a single group I'm afraid I disagree. If we say, for example, {Hoch vIghro'mey DIlegh}, we will understand "we see all the cats". All the cats our words concern. Whether there is just a single group or more, that's unspecified. Though I doubt, someone's mind will go on to think that there may be multiple groups. So, I don't think someone will understand, that there are multiple groups of cats, and the {Hoch vIghro'mey} is used to describe the entirety of these groups, taken together as a whole. ~ nI'ghma On Jan 29, 2018 03:20, "seruq" <seruq(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: I read [Hoch maH] as " all the us's", "all the we's", as in multiple groups. It is not speaking of the entirety of a single group. As for [maH Hoch], similar to the plural suffix, unless you need to remove ambiguity, then no need to use it. Just use maH. But I can see the possibility of it's use. A: mab wIlaj maH B: chaq bolaj tlhIH 'op neH A: maghwI' vIHoH, DaH wIlaj maH Hoch - DloraH ______________________________ _________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo. cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org -----Inline Attachment Follows-----

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verbs necessarily taking objects
by mayqel qunenoS 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

There is something I can't understand, something which I think I had asked sometime ago, but I still have trouble understanding.. There are verbs which can't take an object. And there are verbs which can take an object.. But are there verbs which always must have an object ? At another thread I read: 'oqranD: > The grammatical difference is that {rang} can take an object (the > thing the subject is responsible for) -- and it would be weird for it > not to have an object So, this means that there are verbs which must necessarily take an object, right ? Verbs like {rang}, verbs like {DIl}. Am I right ? Could someone clarify this matter ? ~ nI'ghma

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Klingon Word of the Day: ngomwI'
by Klingon Word of the Day 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, February 02, 2018 Klingon word: ngomwI' Part of speech: noun Definition: geek Source: Festival of the Spoke Nerd This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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The soldier encounters fear
by Lieven L. Litaer 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

I've been asked to translate these lines, and I wanted to share them with you because they sound very klingon-like. On the eve of battle on a cold and windless night, an old general turned to a young soldier. may' nungbogh ram, bIr muD 'ej SuS Hutlh. mang QupvaD jatlh Sa' qan. "Tomorrow," said the master, "you will know fear." »wa'leS«, ja' pIn'a', »DaghIjlu'.« The young soldier who had not yet experienced the agony of war looked at the general with quizzical eyes. not veS bep SIQpu' mang Qup. vaj Sa' ghel. "How will I know fear if I do not know what it looks like?" »not mubam wanI'vetlh. vIghIjlu' chay' 'e' vISov?« The general replied, jang Sa', "You will know fear because it speaks very fast and it speaks very loud." »DaghIjlu'DI' nom jachqu' maQ 'ej chuSqu' QIn.« If that is how fear acts, recognizing it is easy. reH chuSchugh QInDaj, vaj ngeDbej 'oH ghovmeH Qu'. As the young soldier considered the general's advice, he asked the question facing him now. Sa' qeS buSDI' mang Qup, bambogh ghu'mo' ghel ghaH. "Once I know fear, how do I defeat it?" »vIghIjlu'DI', chay' ghu' vIjeylaH?« The general replied, "The only way to defeat fear is to tell it, 'No'." jang Sa': »ghIjbogh maQ jeylu'meH, 'oHvaD ja'nISlu': Qo'.« -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/DSC115

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be responsible
by Lieven L. Litaer 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

Maltz has answered some of my questions while watching Discovery which I don't want to keep secret from you any longer. I'm sending them in individual messages to keep the subject line separated. To talk about "growing plants" (i.e. plant them and making them grow), Okrand suggested to use {wIj} "farm". I asked for {chep}, but he said that {chep} does not work with plants. When I asked for a phrase like "you are responsible for his actions" or "you are responsible for [someting]". Maltz gave use the verb {rang} "be responsible for". The word for "volcano" is {qulHuD}. No space. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Maltz

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Klingon Word of the Day: Han
by Klingon Word of the Day 01 Feb '18

01 Feb '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, February 01, 2018 Klingon word: Han Part of speech: verb Definition: be learned, be scholarly, be erudite Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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