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Klingon Word of the Day: bI'reS
by qurgh＠wizage.net 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, February 22, 2017 Klingon word: bI'reS Part of speech: noun Definition: beginning (of an opera, play, story, speech) Source: HQ:v12n2p8 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghav
by qurgh＠wizage.net 21 Feb '17

21 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 21, 2017 Klingon word: ghav Part of speech: noun Definition: carbon Source: qepHom 2015 p.13 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Noun-noun constructions with quantifiers
by André Müller 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

In a noun-noun construction, when introducing a preceding quantifier such as {'op} or {Hoch}, is it better to put it in front of the whole phrase as in a) below, or in front of the second element, as in b)? In this example, I am trying to say "Some Klingon sentences", would that be: a) {'op tlhIngan Hol mu'tlheghmey} or b) {tlhIngan Hol 'op mu'tlheghmey} Sentence a) could be misinterpreted as "sentences of some Klingon languages". This is also the reason why I am tending to choose b). - André

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Klingon Word of the Day: Surya'
by qurgh＠wizage.net 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, February 20, 2017 Klingon word: Surya' Part of speech: noun Definition: Syria Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: qarDaSQa'
by qurgh＠wizage.net 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, February 19, 2017 Klingon word: qarDaSQa' Part of speech: noun Definition: Cardassian Union Source: Klingon Monopoly, published 1 November 2011 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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qep'a' dates?
by kechpaja 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

ghorgh qaS qep'a' wejmaH loSDIch? 'e' wISov'a'? Is there any information available as to the schedule for the coming qep'a', or is it still up in the air at this point? I'm trying to schedule something in late July, and would prefer not to end up with a conflict. - SapIr

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Klingon Word of the Day: DabqI'
by qurgh＠wizage.net 18 Feb '17

18 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, February 18, 2017 Klingon word: DabqI' Part of speech: noun Definition: mud, clay, putty Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: pan
by qurgh＠wizage.net 17 Feb '17

17 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, February 17, 2017 Klingon word: pan Part of speech: verb Definition: spark, emit sparks Source: Email from ghunchu'wI' to the KLI's email discussion group on 22 August 2011 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: SIrgh
by qurgh＠wizage.net 16 Feb '17

16 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, February 16, 2017 Klingon word: SIrgh Part of speech: noun Definition: string, thread, filament Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The Doctor Who discussion
by Aurélie Demonchaux 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

Sustel: *Doctor Who* mughta’ghachlIj vIlaD ’e’ vItIv J DaH Doctor Who ’ay’ vImugh ’e’ vInIDnIS je! < Hegh Hoch ’e’ Sov Hoch. ’ach Hoch jaj qaSbe’. jajvam qaSbe’. le’ ’op jaj. le’qu’ ’op jaj. ’op jaj Hegh pagh nuv. rut, wa’logh qaStaHvIS poH nI’qu’, wa’ jaj qaStaHvIS wa’ ’uy’ jajmey, DoqtaHvIS bIQtIq bIQ ’ej rItlu’DI’ ghoS Qel, taH Hoch. > jIQaghpu'chugh jIHvaD yIja'. qatlho' ! ~mughwI' 2017-02-12 18:20 GMT+01:00 SuStel <sustel(a)trimboli.name>: > jum. choQoylaHchugh jIratlhlaH 'e' vIQub. mIw vISovbe'. jIDogh. bIDogh, > Qel qan. bIvemDI' SoS vav je Daghaj 'ej choqawbe'. toH, loQ choqaw. nachlIj > Dabbogh lut jIH. lu'. tagha' lut 'oH Hoch'e'. lut yIQaQmoH. nIvmo', > nIvbejmo': 'IDnar 'aplo' nIHta' maw'bogh loD qan 'ej Haw'ta'. vInIHta' 'e' > qaja'? toH, vIngIpta'; reH vIcheghmoH 'e' vIHech. 'o 'aplo'vetlh, *Amy,* > 'aplo'vetlh Daghom bInajtaHvIS. not Dumej. quq ngoDmeyvam: tIn 'ej mach, > chu'chu' 'ej qanqu'; 'ej SuDchu'ghachDaj SuD law' Hoch SuD puS. 'ej Doch > DIta'bogh, qar'a'? Doch lujallu'bogh. Doch DIta'be'bogh. bInajtaHvIS ratlh > Dochmeyvam. Qel *Amy Pond* je... qaSbe'bogh jajmey je. > > SoQchoH Qarghmey. 'ach SoQlaHbe'chu' latlh Dop vIghoSpa'. DaH naDev jInov. > ratlhbogh qaSHa'ghach vIbuSQo'. qaSqa'ghach vImuS. yIyInchu'. *Rory* > yImuSHa'. *Bye-bye, Pond.* > > On 2/12/2017 10:27 AM, Aurélie Demonchaux wrote: > > Thanks for your help and explanations Sustel ! > > I think I get it now :) > > ~mughwI' > > PS: "TARDIS-blue", I love your choice of example ;) Whovian jIH ! > > > 2017-02-11 18:16 GMT+01:00 SuStel <sustel(a)trimboli.name>: > >> On 2/11/2017 8:34 AM, Aurélie Demonchaux wrote: >> >> Indeed the lack of tense can be a bit confusing sometimes and it's taking >> me a bit of time getting used to. >> >> I'm still working to figure out also how it works with the verb suffixes. >> >> For example, in the 4 possible sentences below, do I get the exact >> nuances right? >> >> jIvutpu’ ’e’ vIparHa’ >> - I like that I cooked (at some point in the past) >> - I like that I have cooked (just now) >> - I like finishing to cook (maybe implying that this is when I can >> finally eat ;) >> >> >> "At some point in the past" implies past tense, which we know Klingon >> doesn't have. Instead, the *-pu'* tells us that "I cook" is a completed >> action. In English we can't separate tense and aspect, so the distinction >> is difficult for English-speakers to grasp. >> >> >> *jIvutpu' * >> *I cooked; I have cooked; I will have cooked *I perform, performed, or >> will perform an act of cooking, and I now, did, or will complete that act. >> >> The single word in no way tells you whether the action is past, present, >> or future. It means all of them and none of them at the same time, the same >> way that *blue* means sky-blue and navy-blue and TARDIS-blue all at the >> same time. >> >> >> *wa'Hu' jIvutpu' **yesterday I cooked; yesterday I had cooked* >> >> >> *DaH jIvutpu' **right now I have cooked* >> >> >> *wa'leS jIvutpu' **tomorrow I will have cooked* >> >> Contexts like these are required to determine *when* the cooking >> happened. >> >> If you don't use an aspect suffix, you are explicitly talking about an >> action that is not completed (or continuous) in the moment your are >> describing. >> >> >> *jIvut **I cook; **It's true that I cook things* >> >> This also does not specify *when* an action happened, which requires >> context: >> >> >> *wa'Hu' jIvut **I cooked yesterday; it's true that I engaged in cooking >> yesterday* >> >> >> *DaH jIvut **I cook now; at other times I may not have cooked, but it's >> true that I cook now* >> >> >> *wa'leS jIvut **I will cook tomorrow; tomorrow I'll do some cooking* >> >> You can make a similar comparison with the continuous suffixes. >> >> -- >> SuStelhttp://trimboli.name >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tlhIngan-Hol mailing list >> tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org >> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing listtlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.orghttp://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > > > > -- > SuStelhttp://trimboli.name > > > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org > >

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