Klingon Word of the Day: morgh
Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, May 14, 2017 Klingon word: morgh Part of speech: noun Definition: unit of area (27 square 'ujmey) Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, May 14, 2017
Klingon word: morgh Part of speech: noun Definition: unit of area (27 square 'ujmey) Source: qepHom 2016
An {'uj} is a Klingon unit of linear measure, approximately 35 cm. (st.k 2/03/1999): An {'uj} is a unit of linear measurement, roughly 35 centimeters; an {'uj'a'}, or "big *uj*" [...] is nine times as long, or nine *ujes*, somewhat over three meters. [...] Thus the existence of a unit known as a "big *uj*" ({'uj'a'}) does not mean there's a mathematically related diminutive counterpart (a "little *uj*," or {'ujHom}). Someone did the math and based on the measurements from the BoP Poster, 1 {'uj} ≈ 0.3483 meters or 34.83 cm. AFAIK never used in a sentence. N.B. Do not confuse with the verb {morgh} "protest". ?{morgh} also appears as a morpheme in the unrelated nouns {may'morgh} "battle array" and {rejmorgh} "worrywart". -- Voragh tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a' Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
I don't believe we have a word for "have an area of", though you could perhaps get away with {yugh}, or maybe {ngaS} (though that to me suggests "have an area equal to *or greater than*". Considering we have verbs for "have a volume of" and several for various lengths and distances, I expect there probably is a similar word for areas that we just don't know yet.
Someone did the math and based on the measurements from the BoP Poster, 1 {'uj} ≈ 0.3483 meters or 34.83 cm.
Indeed; calculations can be found here: https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2012/March/msg00130.html The measurements in the "HIGHLY SPECIFIC" category suggest that an 'uj is definitely between 0.3482 meters and 0.3484 meters. This puts an morgh at somewhere between 3.27356748 and 3.27732912 square meters. If we assume that an 'uj is exactly 0.3483 meters, that would place the morgh at exactly 3.27544803 square meters. All in all, 3.275 m^2 is a decent approximation. 3.3 m^2 is easy to remember, and will probably be accurate enough in many cases, though one should remember it's a bit of an exaggeration (like treating a yard as equal to one meter). ________________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 15:19 To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: morgh
Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, May 14, 2017
Klingon word: morgh Part of speech: noun Definition: unit of area (27 square 'ujmey) Source: qepHom 2016
An {'uj} is a Klingon unit of linear measure, approximately 35 cm. (st.k 2/03/1999): An {'uj} is a unit of linear measurement, roughly 35 centimeters; an {'uj'a'}, or "big *uj*" [...] is nine times as long, or nine *ujes*, somewhat over three meters. [...] Thus the existence of a unit known as a "big *uj*" ({'uj'a'}) does not mean there's a mathematically related diminutive counterpart (a "little *uj*," or {'ujHom}). Someone did the math and based on the measurements from the BoP Poster, 1 {'uj} ≈ 0.3483 meters or 34.83 cm. AFAIK never used in a sentence. N.B. Do not confuse with the verb {morgh} "protest". ?{morgh} also appears as a morpheme in the unrelated nouns {may'morgh} "battle array" and {rejmorgh} "worrywart". -- Voragh tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a' Ca'Non Master of the Klingons _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se> wrote:
I don't believe we have a word for "have an area of", though you could perhaps get away with {yugh}, or maybe {ngaS} (though that to me suggests "have an area equal to *or greater than*".
Considering we have verbs for "have a volume of" and several for various lengths and distances, I expect there probably is a similar word for areas that we just don't know yet.
Someone did the math and based on the measurements from the BoP Poster, 1 {'uj} ≈ 0.3483 meters or 34.83 cm.
Indeed; calculations can be found here: https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2012/March/msg00130.html
This is exactly the post I thought of when I saw {morgh} as KWOTD. It's a very well-reasoned calculation of the {'uj}. (My only caveat is the poster doesn't agree with the ILM size chart's original length of 360 feet, or 110m to the nearest meter. But Felix was certainly aware of this, and besides, 344.53 {'uj} must be somewhat over 114.84m if an {'uj'a'} is "somewhat over 3m." And of course the disagreement between the poster and the size chart is the least of the discrepancies concerning the BoP's size: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop-size.htm). ~mIp'av
Because of the way my mind works, I immediately think, "How was a {morgh} originally defined?" The obvious answer is a rectangle measuring 3 'ujmey on one side and 9 'ujmey/1 'uj'a' on the other. Of course, Klingons being Klingons, this could just as easily be "the area of ground covered by Molor's blood when Kahless slew him," or some such. ~quljIb On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:11 PM -0400, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com<mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se<mailto:felixm@kth.se>> wrote: I don't believe we have a word for "have an area of", though you could perhaps get away with {yugh}, or maybe {ngaS} (though that to me suggests "have an area equal to *or greater than*". Considering we have verbs for "have a volume of" and several for various lengths and distances, I expect there probably is a similar word for areas that we just don't know yet.
Someone did the math and based on the measurements from the BoP Poster, 1 {'uj} ≈ 0.3483 meters or 34.83 cm.
Indeed; calculations can be found here: https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2012/March/msg00130.html This is exactly the post I thought of when I saw {morgh} as KWOTD. It's a very well-reasoned calculation of the {'uj}. (My only caveat is the poster doesn't agree with the ILM size chart's original length of 360 feet, or 110m to the nearest meter. But Felix was certainly aware of this, and besides, 344.53 {'uj} must be somewhat over 114.84m if an {'uj'a'} is "somewhat over 3m." And of course the disagreement between the poster and the size chart is the least of the discrepancies concerning the BoP's size: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop-size.htm). ~mIp'av
On 5/15/2017 3:31 PM, David Joslyn wrote:
Of course, Klingons being Klingons, this could just as easily be "the area of ground covered by Molor's blood when Kahless slew him," or some such.
I'd love to see the prototype, wherever they keep it. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
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