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Rendered fat
by David Holt 28 Feb '17

28 Feb '17

I have a project I'm working on and I would like to figure out the most efficient way to elicit the image of rendered fat as a thing. Is {tlhag} the subject of {'Im} and thus {'Impu'wI'} might work? Or is {tlhag} the object of {'Im} and thus we might have to go with the unwieldy {tlhagh 'Imlu'pu'bogh}? What about {-wI'} with {-lu'} - {'Imlu'pu'wI'}? Jeremy

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Klingon Word of the Day: pop
by qurgh＠wizage.net 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, February 25, 2017 Klingon word: pop Part of speech: noun Definition: reward Source: HQ:v12n3p9 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: Dub
by qurgh＠wizage.net 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, February 27, 2017 Klingon word: Dub Part of speech: verb Definition: improve Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -lI': intentional or not?
by PICHLMANN Christoph 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

The following could best be described as my gut feeling on the issue, as I certainly didn't look up any rules beyond re-reading what Klingonska.org says about -lI' and -taH . This is what my instinct tells me from my limited experience with klingon. Duj tIvoqtaH after all :-) >The non-restrictive argument would say there is no difference: the >agent's intentions are not described by *-lI',* the speaker is merely >describing an action progressing toward a known stopping point. A rock >pushed off a cliff by a gust of wind could be said to be *pumlI'* >because it is making progress toward the known stopping point of the ground. I'm with that side. If there is a *known* ground below, the stone can only pumlI' . Of course if you don't know how deep it is, and can't see the ground, then pumtaH would be fine - from your point of view the stone might just as well fall forever. But if we can see the ground and you say "pumtaH" to me, I'd expect the stone to fall through the earth and continue to fall until something intentionally blocks its way. Hm. Unless you're talking about the stone at this moment right now. Then -taH would be fitting, but you'd not be talking about the whole "stone drops down" but "stone is currently on the way down" situation. Kind of like knowing the speed of the stone or it's exact location. Christoph ---------------------------------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:19:33 -0500 From: SuStel <sustel(a)trimboli.name> To: tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -lI': intentional or not? Message-ID: <58B31C35.4080000(a)trimboli.name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" On 2/26/2017 12:35 PM, Lieven wrote: > Would there be a difference between a stone falling due to the wind > moving it and my intentionally making it drop? Unless you are intentionally personifying the wind and giving it an objective of making the stone hit the ground, the restrictive argument would say yes, there is a difference: if you dropped the stone intending that its goal is the ground you could say *pumlI'* (or *pumtaH*); if the stone fell off a cliff because of a gust of wind, you could only say *pumtaH. * The non-restrictive argument would say there is no difference: the agent's intentions are not described by *-lI',* the speaker is merely describing an action progressing toward a known stopping point. A rock pushed off a cliff by a gust of wind could be said to be *pumlI'* because it is making progress toward the known stopping point of the ground. -- SuStel http://www.trimboli.name/

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'ewrop
by qurgh＠wizage.net 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, February 26, 2017 Klingon word: 'ewrop Part of speech: noun Definition: Europe Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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paq'batlhDaq mu'tlhegh
by Brian Cote 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

DaHjaj <<paq'batlh>> vIlaDqa' 'ej mu'tlheghvam vItu': "quv vuv nuv pagh ghajbogh neH" /Honor is for those with nothing to loose!/ (paq'raD 19:15) muj mu'tlheghvam pab 'e' vIHar, qar'a'? vaj vIlughmoH 'ej mu'tlheghvam vIlIng: "quv vuv pagh ghajbogh neH nuv'e'" lugh'a'? QImSIr

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Klingon Word of the Day: betgham
by qurgh＠wizage.net 24 Feb '17

24 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, February 24, 2017 Klingon word: betgham Part of speech: noun Definition: liquid (state of matter) Source: qep'a' 23 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Live Long and Prosper
by Lieven 24 Feb '17

24 Feb '17

One Klingon version for "live long and prosper" {yItaH 'ej yIcheptaH} is usually referenced as "UPN ST 25th Anniversary Special". I know what UPN and ST stand for, but what exactly is that? Is it the TV-show which is found on youtube here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLtyi5r7vp0 If yes, where did Okrand say that? (honestly, I have no time to watch the 90 minutes, and besides I've seen the show already long time ago.) Or was it written somewhere else? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'o'rIS
by qurgh＠wizage.net 23 Feb '17

23 Feb '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, February 23, 2017 Klingon word: 'o'rIS Part of speech: noun Definition: molecule Source: qepHom 2015 p.13 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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lutmey vIneH
by Lawrence M. Schoen 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

taghwI' chom lutmey vIneH. peqIm! lutmey vInej. DajnIS lutmeyvam. tlhaQlaH lutmeyvam. 'ej chom bop Hoch lutmey. lutmeyvam qonmeH vagh SaD mu' Dalo'laH. lutlIjvaD latlh mu'mey Dalo'chugh, vIlaDQo', 'ej bIquvHa'. taghwI' mu'mey Dalo'nIS neH. qaDvam Dalaj'a'? lutlIj HIngeH! SKI: I'm challenging you to write stories about a bartender, no longer than 5000 words, and only using Beginner's vocabulary. -- Dr. Lawrence M. Schoen :: author :: publisher :: psychologist :: hypnotist :: klingonist :::: Campbell, Hugo, Nebula, & WSFS Award nominee ::::: Cóyotl Award winner :::: www.lawrencemschoen.com ::: www.papergolem.com ::: www.hypnosis4writers.com

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