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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Qej
by mayqel qunenoS 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

And let us not forget the {joq} issue too.. qunnoq On Sep 19, 2017 8:18 PM, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Lieven <levinius(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Am 18.09.2017 um 19:13 schrieb nIqolay Q:> Would it be possible to also > include *ngIq* on the wishlist?> can be analyzed a little more, but it'd > still be nice to finally have > clarification. > > What exactly is the question? > > I have no problem with {ngIq}, but I haven't followed the recent thread > about it either. What precisely it means and how it's used. For instance, how to tell/express the difference between using it to mean "one single X" (as in *ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej tIqDu' lel* "In one single move, he removed the hearts") vs. "each X individually one by one" (as in *ngIq nuv luHoH* "they killed the warriors one by one"), or if there even is a difference at all between those meanings. Also, what other concepts can it be used to express, what other contexts it can be used in, does it mean anything if it's on its own and not part of a noun-noun phrase, etc. Like I said, it's had a lot more canon examples than *vabDot*, and I suspect that the usage analysis that various Klingonists have done based on that canon is going to be mostly correct. But it would still be nice to know more specifically (and canonically) from the source, rather than trying to backsolve its meaning from a few sentences. _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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Klingon Word of the Day: Qej
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, September 16, 2017 Klingon word: Qej Part of speech: verb Definition: cherish, value Source: Klingon Monopoly This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: puH yIQ
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, September 19, 2017 Klingon word: puH yIQ Part of speech: noun Definition: swamp, wetlands Source: qep'a' 24 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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tlhoy Duj 'IH 'oH nuq'e' ?
by mayqel qunenoS 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

Duj law'qu 'agh Hov leng. 'ej pIj, vIbeghtaHvIS jISIvbe'laHbe'.. jIghelbe''eghlaHbe'. Hov leng Dujmey'e', tlhoy 'IH 'oH nuq'e' ? 'IH'a' 'enterpray' ? 'IH'a' vorcha' Duj ? chaq 'IH'a' tlhIngan tlharghDuj ? 'a jIjangtaHvIS, reH mu'mey rap vIjatlh: Hov leng Dujmey'e', romuluS warbird valdore 'IH law' Hoch 'IH puS. qunnoq

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Making someone do something to someone/something else
by Aurélie Demonchaux 18 Sep '17

18 Sep '17

I have been wondering about how to perfectly convey sentences where there seems to be 2 subjects, such as "She made you wait for us" and just came up with an idea that I wanted to discuss with you: using < ... ’e’ qaSmoH > For instance: juloS ’e’ qaSmoH > Literally: She caused it to happen that you waited for us Or, for the example from last month (they made the dog enter the cage: DogvaD mo’ lu’elmoH): mo’ ’el dog ’e’ luqaSmoH When you think about it, in "She made you wait for us", the subject is "she" but the object is not "you", it is the action/event "you wait for us" taken as a whole, thus <... ’e’ qaSmoH > seems a logical way to phrase it. What do you think ? Has it maybe been discussed already ? Best, Aurélie

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Klingon Word of the Day: qevpob
by Klingon Word of the Day 18 Sep '17

18 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, September 18, 2017 Klingon word: qevpob Part of speech: noun Definition: cheek Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: cheSvel
by Klingon Word of the Day 18 Sep '17

18 Sep '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, September 17, 2017 Klingon word: cheSvel Part of speech: noun Definition: style of coat from the Vospeg region, coat (regional), jacket (regional) Source: KGT (213 KE, 238 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] hol kag org mu'tay' qaD
by mayqel qunenoS 17 Sep '17

17 Sep '17

ghunchu'wI', jIHvaD memrise qaD Da'aghta'mo', qatlho'. 'a, qaDvam vInuDchoHDI', wa'DIch jIparHa', 'a tagha', qaDvam lubopbogh 'op Doch'e' vItu'. 'ej Do'Ha' qay' Dochmeyvam. klcp 1 mu'mey neH ngaS qaDvam. 'ej jeSwI'vaD DIvI' Hol mu' lugh ghItlhmoHbe' qaDvam. vaj naQbe' qaDvam (Hoch tlhIngan mu'mey ghajbe'mo'), 'ej jeSwI' mu'tay Sov tobbe'mo'. 'a, wa' Doch vIparHa'; memrise pIqaD qaD. Do'Ha', DaH, maghIQmo' jIH be'wI' je, ghogh HablI'wIj neH vIghaj. vaj, raS De'wI' vIlo'laHbe'mo', weQmoQnaQ vInaw'laHbe'chu' 'ej pIqaD qaD vIwaHlaHbe'chu'. tugh, yaHwIjDaq jIHqa'taHDI', memrise pIqaD qaD vIwaHqang. ghunchu'wI', qaDvam Da'aghta'mo', qatlho'. qunnoq On Sep 16, 2017 22:06, "Alan Anderson" <qunchuy(a)alcaco.net> wrote: ghaytan Memrise qaD mIw DamaS. https://www.memrise.com/course/25764/klcp1/ yIHotlh. -- ghunchu'wI' On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:25 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ...tlhoy QaQbe', latlh chovmeH mIw tu'lu'mo'. nIvmo', qaq mIwvam: > wa'DIch: narghnIS wa' tlhIngan mu', 'a ghIq narghbe'nIS DIvI' Hol loS mu'. > De'wI' jIHDaq DIvI' Hol mu' lugh ghItlhnIS jeSwI'. > qaSchugh mIwvam neH, le'choHbej mu'tay' qaD. > qaSbe'chugh mIwvam, vaj motlh, mu' lugh tu'laH jeSwI', wej mu' lajmo'. 'a > mu'mey muj lajlaH jeSwI'; net tobnISbe'. mu' lugh Sov jeSwI'; net tobnIS. > > _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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hol kag org mu'tay' qaD
by mayqel qunenoS 16 Sep '17

16 Sep '17

qen, hol kag org Daq le' vItu': hol kag org mu'tay' qaD. pa', nargh wa' tlhIngan mu', 'ej mu' bIngDaq DIvI' Hol loS mu' tu'lu'. ghIq DIvI' Hol mu' lugh wIvnISlu'. 'a tlhoy QaQbe' qaDvam. 'ej DaH meq vIpoj. qaDvam vIwaHtaHvIS, rut tlhIngan mu'mey vISovbe'bogh vIlegh. 'ach loS DuH vIlaDDI', wej DuH vIlajlaH, 'ej vIlajmo', tagha' mu' lugh vItu'. chaq, vIghellu': vaj, qatlh tlhoy QaQbe' qaD ? ...tlhoy QaQbe', latlh chovmeH mIw tu'lu'mo'. nIvmo', qaq mIwvam: wa'DIch: narghnIS wa' tlhIngan mu', 'a ghIq narghbe'nIS DIvI' Hol loS mu'. De'wI' jIHDaq DIvI' Hol mu' lugh ghItlhnIS jeSwI'. qaSchugh mIwvam neH, le'choHbej mu'tay' qaD. qaSbe'chugh mIwvam, vaj motlh, mu' lugh tu'laH jeSwI', wej mu' lajmo'. 'a mu'mey muj lajlaH jeSwI'; net tobnISbe'. mu' lugh Sov jeSwI'; net tobnIS. qunnoq

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hol kag org klcp
by mayqel qunenoS 16 Sep '17

16 Sep '17

qen, hol kag org vISuch, 'ej pa', klcp 3 mu'tlhegh chenmoHwI' vIlegh. 'a, mu'tlheghmey vISuqmeH, leQDI' vI'uy, 'ej mu'tlheghmey vISuq, Dap bIH mu'tlheghmeyvam'e'. mu'mey neH lInglaHlaw'. 'a mu'tlheghmey'e' yajlaHbogh nuv, chenlaHbe'moH. chIch, qaS wanI'vam ? qunnoq

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