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'elaDya' lalDan - lam'a' Say'choHghach je ~ 'ay' vagh
by mayqel qunen'oS 14 Oct '21

14 Oct '21

vaj porgh Say’ bop lam’a’, ‘ach jaSHa’ Qunpu’ cholmeH laH bop je. ‘elaDya’ lalDan turwI’pu’ Hoch jaj yIn SIgh ‘elaDya’ lalDan; ‘ej qo’vam jemtaHghach luSIgh Say’taHghach lam’a’ je. vaj ‘elaDya’ lalDan turwI’pu’vaD qo’vam jemtaHghach SIghchu’ ‘elaDya’ lalDan, ‘ej tagha’ lalDan qo’ lujemchoH ‘elaDya’ lalDan turwI’. nItwI’pu’ (Qunpu’) qo’ lunaw’meH nuvpu’, ‘ej nuvpu’vaD lam’a’ ngejmoHpu’DI’ Hoch jaj yIn, nIt’eghchoHmoH nuvpu’ chaHvaD ‘e’ poQ ‘elaDya’ lalDan. Qunpu’ qo’ naw’ vuS ‘ej SIgh nItchoHmeH mIw; lam’a’ luqaSmoH boghmoHmeH mIw, Hegh, chImeH mIw, ‘op Soj, ngaghmeH mIw je. vaj Say’nIStaH/nItnIStaH nuv qa’, yab, porgh je, ‘ej Hochvam nItHa’moHbogh Hoch junnISchu’ nuv. vatlh DIS poH loSDIch *cyrene*Daq, Dorbogh vatlh DIS poH cha’DIch *delos*Daq, vatlh DIS poH wejDIch *ledos*Daq je be’ ngaghchugh loD, qoj boghmoHbogh be’ cholchugh loD, nItHa’choH loDvam; *cyrene*Daq tlhoghpu’DI’ be’, ‘annISmoH vay’. motlh *delos*Daq be’pu’mo’ qaS lam’a’; nItHa’moH chIbogh be’pu’, ‘ej nItHa’moH je yatlhbogh be’pu’, ‘ej yatlhtaHvIS, Hegh ghuchaj. ‘ach nItHa’moH je mu’tlhegh meSvamDaq Hoch latlh Dellu’pu’bogh, ‘ej nItHa’moH je ghotI’ luSoplu’bogh, Suy’ luSoplu’bogh je *delos*Daq net Har. DaH latlh jatlhnISlu’ je: nItHa’moHlaH be’pu’, ‘ach nItHa’moHlaH je loDpu’ *lindos*Daq *cyrene*Daq net Har je. vaj Heghpu’bogh tuqnIghDaj (loDpu’ be’pu’ joq) cholpu’chugh vay,’ qay’ *lindos*Daq *cyrene*Daq net Har. DaH ghellaH vay’: < Qunpu’ quvmoHchoHpa’ nuv, chay’ nIt’eghnISmoH? nuq ‘oH mIw’e’ pabnISbogh? > wa’DIch, -tay lopchoHpa’ nuv, Daq nIt ‘elpa’, chIrgh cholpa’, ‘anmoHmeH qachHom SumchoHpa’- porghDaj Say’moHmeH, HaH’eghnIS. ‘ach tay nItchu’ghach chavqangbejchugh nuv, yapbe’; *khernips* chennISmoH ‘ej lo’nIS nuv. bIQ nIt ‘oH *khernips*‘e’, ‘ej Daqmey nIt (‘anmoHmeH qachHom, chIrgh Daqmey Sum) ‘elpa’ nuv, ghopDu’Daj qabDaj je Say’moHmeH nuv, bIQvam nIt lo’nIS, ‘ej bIQvam nIt lo’taHvIS, mIw SeQ pabnIS; Hoch Sar tay lopchoHpa’ nuv, bIQvam nIt lo’ net poQ. *khernips* chenmoHlu’meH, cha’ nItmoHmeH qurme’ lulo’lu’: qul bIQ je. roD nItmoHbogh qurme’ bIH qul’e’ bIQ’e’ je net Sov, ‘ej Say’choHmoHmo’ pIvchoHmoHmo’ ‘ej nItchoHmoHmo’ qul, potlhchu’ qul.. ngeD *khernips* chenmoHmeH mIw; vabDot juHDaq ghaHtaHvIS vay”e’, bIQvam nIt chenmoHlaH. mIw: maHpInDaq bIQ lan nuv; bIQ’a’ bIQ, ghItbogh bIQ (ghantoH: bIQtIq bIQ) ghap ‘oHchugh bIQvam’e’, qaq. ‘ach chaq Sarvam bIQ SamlaHbe’ nuv, vaj juHDajDaq qutmey na’, bIQ motlh je DuDlaH, ‘ej bIQvam lo’laH, pagh bIQ SeHjan bIQ motlh neH lo’laH. ghIq bIQ DungDaq meQchoHmeH San’emDerHom(mey) (lu)QaDlu’pu’bogh, San’emDerHom(mey)vamDaq qul chu’. San’emDerHom(mey)vam SamlaHbe’chugh nuv, jaSHa’ lalDan tlhIch Hap lo’laH, pagh por bartIqHom ghap QeDlu’pu’bogh lo’laH je. Hochvam meQchoHmoHpu’DI’ nuv, qul chu’Ha’meH, maHpIn bIQDaq vay’vam meQchoHmoHpu’bogh ‘oqmoH, ‘ej vay’vam ‘oqchoHmoHtaHvIS nuv, jatlh < yInItchoH >. ghIq Say’eghmoHmeH nuv, bIQvam lo’choH; wa’DIch ghopDu’Daj Say’moH, ghIq qabDaj Say’moH, ‘ej Say’eghmoHmeH nuv, jatlhlaH < jISay’eghmoHmeH, bIQ nIt vIlo’ >. ghIq tay DaqDaq tay jeSwI’pu’Daq je bIQvam nIt ghay nuv, jatlhtaHvIS < naDevvo’ peghoS, Hoch qa’pu’ mIgh >, pagh < naDevvo’ peghoS peghoS, nItHa’wI’ >. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: mIvwa'
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Oct '21

13 Oct '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, October 13, 2021 Klingon word: mIvwa' Part of speech: noun Definition: scar (result of a wound, regardless of how the wound occurred), score, tally Source: qep'a' 24, qep'a' 25 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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qepHom: The Legacy
by Lieven L. Litaer 13 Oct '21

13 Oct '21

Hello everybody, a few weeks ago I announced the crowdfunding campaign for the movie we are making for the 20th anniversary qepHom next year. So in case anyone had said "I'll do that later", this is a reminder that this later is NOW! ;-) The campaign will end on October 17, 2021. So for anyone interested, here is the campaign: https://www.startnext.com/en/qephom-film For more information on the film, see: http://www.qephom.de/TheLegacy -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland

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Unicode, pIqaD, and Paramount
by Mark E. Shoulson 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

(This is probably going to be long, even for me.) So. Some weeks back, I submitted a request to Unicode (https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2021/21155-klingon-req.pdf) that they rescind their decision saying Klingon would *not* be encoded, thus getting off the "Not the Roadmap" list (https://www.unicode.org/alloc/nonapprovals.html) so it wouldn't be singled out as a script not to be encoded. I did this on the advice of one of the Unicode folks some years back (https://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2016-m11/0091.html) who said that this would have to be done before anything else. However, Unicode declined to do so (recommendation of the Script Ad-Hoc near the bottom of https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2021/21174-script-adhoc-rept.pdf.) (In response, I kicked off the mailing-list discussion at https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2021-September/thread.html#9571, which you may read for your own amusement.) Basically, they are not going to *touch* this until that pesky problem of Paramount IP is resolved. So we're going to have to put some effort into that. For those new to the story, this is about getting pIqaD encoded in the Unicode Standard, the standard used by modern computer platforms to exchange characters in all kinds of languages. The problem is that Paramount/CBS is a big scary company with lots and lots of lawyers and a huge bankroll, and Unicode is afraid of doing anything that might maybe perhaps lead someone there to consider thinking about the tiniest possibility of perhaps suing someone (Unicode or a user of the Standard) for IP violations, on the grounds that We Own All Things Star-Trek. I know, I know. There's no way Paramount could legally sue, you can't copyright typefaces and Unicode isn't encoding the typeface anyway; you can't copyright a language; "Klingon" is a trademark, but we could call them "PIQAD LETTER AY" instead; a million other reasons why this concern is invalid. It *doesn't matter*. The fact is that Unicode is not going to do anything until they're satisfied that Paramount isn't a danger, and all the legal and logical arguments in the world aren't going to change that. This seems to be an issue when people first hear about this. Disabuse yourself of the idea that we can somehow do without getting Paramount's buy-in. Whatever clever argument or loophole you think you've found, it doesn't matter. Unicode won't be happy until they're happy, and arguing with them will only get you more annoyed. Now, I *have* in fact attempted to get Paramount to agree to this. Qov and ghunchu'wI' were able to give me emails of some people at Paramount from their Discovery work, and I wrote to them. And they said I should write to someone else, who told me to ask someone else... and so on, climbing the ladder of authority at Paramount, until I reached someone who may actually have been able to do it—and they never wrote back to me, despite repeated attempts to engage. Couldn't get anything. This could be a very difficult situation. Paramount has *no* incentive whatsoever to do anything of the kind, and the very idea of even hinting at abdicating rights over any IP that could maybe under some weird frame of mind might possibly be theirs surely goes against every grain they have. Paramount doesn't care about people using or not using pIqaD, it has no reason to make it easier. (You know whose job it is to make sure people can communicate in their own orthographies? Unicode's. And they're not doing it.) Just the idea of running this past their legal department... it's hard to imagine them seriously considering it. As I see it, the only path forward we have at this point is to try to put a little pressure on Paramount. We can't put much. But I was thinking of getting a petition on change.org or something and somehow collecting a lot of signatures. It's going to take more than just one or two hundred, I think. But if somehow we can raise consciousness about this, get a strongly-supported petition, maybe they'll listen. I'm looking for help with this, as I'm really awful at completing things on my own. Now, as I see it, there are three documents that need to be prepared for this: 1. The petition cover letter. This is what people see on change.org, what they are signing their names to. It needs to make our case, but hopefully to a potentially friendly audience. If we can convince people who start out unfriendly, so much the better. This document *must* contain a FAQ section which repeats, over and over and in small words, that we don't need to hear about why this is not necessary, or about ways of somehow presenting it in such a way that Unicode won't insist on hearing from Paramount. People can't resist trying to offer such solutions. I won't say that *all* these arguments have been tried already, but a lot have, and the bottom line is legal and rational arguments won't help. (See, I already repeated it again for readers here just in the description!) 2. The letter to Paramount. Signers should see this, too (and for that matter they should also see the third document); it's relevant to what they're asking. Somehow this needs to make our case to a much less friendly audience, presumably talking about the importance of good relationships with their fan-base, their reputation, blah blah blah. In some fashion make the point to them. 3. A draft of the statement we want them to sign. There's no point going in with "we need something that sorta says this" and Unicode says "not good enough." We might as well spell out exactly what we're asking them to say, and somehow hope they'll say it. https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2020/20169-script-adhoc-rept.pdf (near the bottom) says that what they want is "clear proof that Paramount would not pursue legal action against the Unicode Consortium, or anyone who implements the script." So presumably that's what it would have to say. Considering the time it'll take to collect signatures, I would assume I could show the putative statement to the Unicode folks and get confirmation that it's at least satisfactory on their side. I guess email me, or something; we need a smallish mailing list for a group of people working on this. I guess I'll create some Google Docs we can share and comment on and polish, etc. (If this really is impossible, as it may be, I imagine we'd have to write a petition to Unicode, and get a lot of people to sign it, and also get some press coverage somehow that will generate public support for us instead of sneers. Maybe if we present it as "a community of people" and only reveal it's Klingon at the end? Ooh, that could make a nice advertising letter.) Anyway, that's where we stand. We have to get some assurance from Paramount, somehow. If you can help, well, help. Thanks ~mark

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paq'batlh 2nd edition
by De'vID 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

As some of you know, I've been working on the 2nd edition of the paq'batlh. For various reasons, I need to take a break from this project, so I'm looking for a volunteer to take over. The person would need to have access to Adobe Acrobat or otherwise software which allows the adding and editing of comments in a PDF file. The publisher has requested that all the changes be marked up as comments in a PDF of the 1st edition. Most of it is done, but there are still some corrections which have been finalised which have to be added, and a few outstanding questions for Dr. Okrand and the publishers to answer. Here's a link to the spreadsheet which I'm using to keep track of changes. Note that these are not finalised until the 2nd edition is actually out, but it should give you an idea of which commonly suspected errors in the 1st edition have been confirmed as such by Dr. Okrand: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eQp1LrWfZD3HaWhrno4_Hi0qXhWFy7bfGqG… -- De'vID

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Klingon Word of the Day: naQjej
by Klingon Word of the Day 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, October 12, 2021 Klingon word: naQjej Part of speech: noun Definition: spear Source: KGT (220 KE, 257 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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expressing "text" expressing "passage"
by mayqel qunen'oS 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

We have the {mu'tlhegh meS} for "paragraph". It just came to me, that perhaps we could say {mu'tlhegh meSmey mIr} "a chain of paragraphs", and/or {mu'tlhegh meSmey tlhegh} "a line of paragraphs" in order to express "text" /"passage". Perhaps we could even say {mu'tlhegh meSmey cho'} "a succession of paragraphs", or {mu'tlhegh meSmey tlhoQ} "a conglomeration of paragraphs". Although I'm not quite sure for the last two, since perhaps the {cho'} is to be used only for successions of emperors, chancellors, etc, and as far as the {tlhoQ} is concerned, if I said that I truly understand the meaning of the english "conglomeration" I'd be lying. And because I know what someone is perhaps ready to say.. No, "manuscript" isn't the same as "text" or "passage". At least in greek it isn't, and here is where the {ghIlth} "manuscript" choice goes out the window. Or is "out of the window"? Oh, well.. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: jach
by Klingon Word of the Day 11 Oct '21

11 Oct '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, October 09, 2021 Klingon word: jach Part of speech: verb Definition: scream, cry out, shout, yell Source: TKD (90 KE, 127 EK, 151 EK, 152 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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'elaDya' lalDan - lam'a' Say'choHghach je ~ 'ay' loS
by mayqel qunen'oS 11 Oct '21

11 Oct '21

qaStaHvIS yIn, boghmoH be’, chI, Hegh nuvpu’, ‘ej yIn motlh choHmo’ Hochvam, qoj yIn motlh nISmo’, rarchuq Hochvam vItlhbe’bogh lam’a’ je. ‘ach qaStaHvIS yIn, qaS je latlh wanI’mey, ‘ej qo’ chut pabnISlu’bogh lunISmo’ wanI’meyvam, lam’a’ luqaSmoH: Human ‘Iw, betghammey’e’ lIngbogh qey’Hav, lam motlh, turmIq, qeQ, betghammey’e’ lIngbogh ngaghmeH mIw, rop je. tay qaSmoHlu’taHvIS, Qaghlu’, qoj tayvam nISlu’, chaq tayvamvaD Qapbe’bogh tay mojmoHlu’, vaj lam’a’ qaSmoHlu’ je. ‘ach latlh Sar lam’a’ tu’lu’, Sarvam Sagh law’ Sar vorgh Sagh puS, ‘ej Sarvam joch law’ Sar vorgh joch puS; Sarvam lam’a’ qaSmoH yembogh nuv, batlhHa’ vangbogh maybe’bogh nuv. motlh ‘Iw HeSmey bop Sarvam lam’a’, ‘ej lam’a’vam ngabmoHlu’meH, HoS vItlh Say’moHmeH Ho’DoS lulo’nISlu’. vaj chay’ Sarvam lam’a’ lInglu’? chotDI’ nuv, vInDa’Daj peqDI’, vavDaj SoSDaj ghap ngaghDI’, tlhoy nguqchoHDI’, reSDI’, ngugh Sarvam lam’a’ qaSmoH nuvvam. vaj vItlhbe’bogh lam’a’, vItlhbogh lam’a’ je tu’lu’. ‘ach Hoch Sar lam’a’ ngabmoHmeH nuv, qa’ nItmoHghach Ho’DoSmey SeQ lo’nIS. qay’ lam’a’, ‘ej Seng; lam’a’ ngabmoHbe’lu’chugh, lam’a’vammo’ Qunpu’ jemlaHbe’chu’ Human qa’, SaHtaHvIS Qunpu’. vaj tagha’ taymeyvaD Qapbe’bogh taymey mojmoH lam’a’, ‘ej SaHbogh Qunpu’ jemlaHbe’mo’ nuv, ‘ej tay’choHchu’mo’ nuv, bIj qa’pu’ (*nemesis*, *daimons*-DorwI’Daj je) je, tagha’ San mIgh SIQchoH nuv. ‘ej ‘arghlaH ghu’, latlhpu’ latlhmey je ngejlaHmo’ lam’a’: nuvpu’vaD, DochmeyvaD, vabDot DaqmeyvaD cholbogh lam’a’ nuvpu’, lam’a’ lungejmoHlaH wanI’mey, vangpu’ghachmey, Daqmey, Dochmey, qa’ mIgh nuvpu’ je. vabDot Qunpu’ Daqmey nItvaD (chIrghmey, ‘anmoHmeH qachHommey) lam’a’ lungejmoHlaH. SachtaHbogh lam’a’vam ngabmoHbe’lu’chugh, nugh HochvaD jochlaH, nuvpu’vaD Qunpu’ DoHmoHmo’ lam’a’, ‘ej tagha’ lam’a’vammo’ qaSlaH Qughmey (Qughmey but, Human Qughmey je). De’vam vorgh qellu’chugh, tagha’ lam’a’ bopbogh wa’ ngoD potlh’e’ yajlu’: qa’ lam Sar ‘oH lam’a”e’, ‘ej vabDot yIntaHvIS neH vay’, vI’taH lam’a’. vaj DaH SIvnIS nuv: jupDaj juH ‘elltaHvIS, ‘ej juHvam ravDaq yIttaHvIS, pa’ waqmeyDaj DabqI’ qengqang’a’? vaj tay’chu’meH Qunpu’ nuv je, nIDtaHvIS nuv, chay’ Qunpu’ juHmeyDaq qa’ lam qengqanglaH? jubbe’wI’ nughDaq QunvaD DIratlhmoHmeH, nIttaH qa’maj, tay DIloptaHvIS. chIrghmeyDaq ‘op Daq le’ tu’lu’; nItchu’ Daqmeyvam, ‘ej Daqmeyvam ngu’lu’meH, ‘ej nom taymey jeSwI’pu’vaD Daqmeyvam veH luleghlu’moHmeH, ‘op Ho’DoS le’ lo’lu’. rut ‘op Doch le’ lo’lu’ (veH naghmey), rut Daqmeyvam le’Daq QamtaHvIS nuv, pa’ vangtaHvIS, ‘op chut le’ pabnIS. ‘ach Daqmeyvam le’ nItmoHtaHmeH nuvpu’, vabDot nIDchu’taHvIS, pIj ngoQvam luchavlaHchu’be’, vaj ‘elaDya’ lalDan turtaHvIS nuvpu’, ‘op nItchoHmoHmeH taymey turnISchu’ je. QaQchu’ ‘ej nItchu’ Qunpu’; DI’onvam DIvuvnISba’, vaj nItchu’bogh vay’ chol ‘op’e’ ngejmoHpu’bogh lam’a’ net chaw’be’; vaj lam’a’ DIghlu’pu’pa’ ‘ej ngabmoHlu’pu’pa’, Qunpu’ ‘anmoHmeH qachHommey, chIrghmey Daqmey Sum, Qun mIllogh joq chol nuv’e’ ngejpu’bogh lam’a’ net chaw’be’. nItchoHmeH vay’ (nuv Doch joq), nItchoHmoHmeH tay mIw SIQnIS vay’vam, ‘ej mIwvamvaD Say’choHghach (*katharmos*) ponglu’. nItHa’ qoj qal vay’; Dotlh(mey)vam Hoch Sar chIw lam’a’, ‘ej Dotlh(mey)vam lam’a’ luvujbogh nItchoHmoHmeH tay’e’ bop Say’choHghach, vaj tagha’ nItbejghach Dotlh motlh qaSqa’moHlu’, ‘ej vay’vam’e’ ngejpu’bogh lam’a’ nItqa’moHlu’. Hoch jaj lalDan yIn luSIQtaHvIS ‘elaDya’ lalDan HarwI’, Qunpu’vaD jatlh ‘ej ‘anmoH, ‘ach yapbe’; potlhchu’ je Say’choHghach, ‘ej Say’choHghach taymey qImHa’chugh HarwI’pu’, qo’vam chut pabnISlu’bogh luwogh. ngoDvam ‘otHa’ *homer* (*iliad*, 6.266-8 je qubbID): < *zeus*vaD ghonbogh HIq vIlIchoHpu’pa’, ghopDu’wIj vISay’moHpu’be’chugh, jItuHchoH; nuv porgh luveltaHvIS ‘Iw lam char je, vI’laS Hurgh *kronos* puqloDvaD jatlhlaHbe’ nuvvam; qItbe’chu’ >. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: paq nojwI'
by Klingon Word of the Day 11 Oct '21

11 Oct '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, October 10, 2021 Klingon word: paq nojwI' Part of speech: noun Definition: librarian Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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