July 2020 - tlhIngan-Hol

Klingon Word of the Day: rewbe'
by Klingon Word of the Day 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, July 06, 2020 Klingon word: rewbe' Part of speech: noun Definition: citizen Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The Little Prince
by Becky Nearing 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The Little Prince
by Becky Nearing 05 Jul '20

05 Jul '20

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Klingon Word of the Day: Do'natu vagh
by Klingon Word of the Day 05 Jul '20

05 Jul '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, July 05, 2020 Klingon word: Do'natu vagh Part of speech: noun Definition: Donatu V Source: qep'a' 24 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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the sound of {o} analyzed
by Lieven L. Litaer 05 Jul '20

05 Jul '20

Hi folks, I just had a chance to chat with Marc Okrand, and we briefly spoke about this o-problem. First, before I said anything, he immediately repeated that TKD really is just a rough sketch of the language, and that it was written for the layman and also for English speakers. What he easily could confirm was the letter {o} is surely not a diphthong in the middle of the word. (I'll avoid giving English examples for comparison, because it has become clear that English dialects over the world are very different.) He also confirmed that is example of "go and mosaic" was just to make clear that it's not o as in box or cop. Next, he also has noticed himself that the Klingon letter {o} is sometimes pronounced as an open [o] (IPA symbol as a reversed c) and sometimes as a closed [o]. There might be a phonetic reason for that, but he never thought about this, let stand even write it down. It would make things too complicated. (Now, first my apologies if this is phonetically and scientifically not so correct. I'll try to describe in easy words. I suggest this message being read aloud and slowly.) Regarding the ow-problem, he pointed to an interesting thing of phonetics which I was aware of, but never realized properly. The point is that when you speak {w} your lips form the shape of a letter o. That's also the same lips-form for speaking the letter u. But remember: {w} is NOT a vowel, and it is NOT {u}. {w} does not have its own sound. So, if you speak {aw}, {ew} or {Iw}, you start with the vowel (a,e,I) and close your lips to form the w. It's not the final w sound that creates this diphthong [au], it's the way of moving your lips towards that final w position. Let's do the same thing with {ow} (and {uw}): you start with the [o] sound, but the difference here is that you already have your lips in the position/the shape of the w, so there is no "transition-sound" from the vowel to the {w}. THAT is the reason why {Dow} would sound identical to {Do} - not because {o} is a diphthong [ou], but because {ow} also is NOT a diphthong [ou], it's more like [o:]. (as a side note: the same happens with {Iy}) These are not Okrand's words, they are mine. But I think that it now makes a lot more sense and doesn't contradict anything. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/Pronunciation

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The Little Prince
by Becky Nearing 05 Jul '20

05 Jul '20

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Klingon Word of the Day: yISra'el
by Klingon Word of the Day 04 Jul '20

04 Jul '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, July 04, 2020 Klingon word: yISra'el Part of speech: noun Definition: Israel Source: TalkNow - Learn Klingon!, revealed 30 September 2011 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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'eSrIv 11
by Jackson Bradley 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

'eSrIv 11 is out!! You can download it as PDF on my website or its usual place on Hol 'ampaS. -OR- You can choose to order a physical copy. "Wait, what? Did I read that correctly?" Why, yes you did! 'eSrIv is now available in paper form!!!! Woohoo!! SUCH a big thanks to all the contributors this month. You all are AMAZING!! Keep up the good work! Free PDF: https://www.desduwij.com/esriv <https://www.desduwij.com/esriv?fbclid=IwAR0M4AgUqvBdJXrDAo0iF5jlQsybG8g56MO…> Physical Copy: https://www.lulu.com/…/…/esriv/paperback/product-kjnrrn.html <https://www.lulu.com/en/ca/shop/mahvatlh-and-magyar-p%C3%A1l-and-mayiq-and-…> You can also order 'eSrIv 1-10, which come in a compilation at the link below (a bit pricey, I know. Sorry, that's the lowest I could get it): https://www.lulu.com/…/…/esriv/paperback/product-wq5w8v.html <https://www.lulu.com/en/ca/shop/desdu-pagh-puqlod/esriv/paperback/product-w…>

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Klingon Word of the Day: SIQab'el
by Klingon Word of the Day 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, July 03, 2020 Klingon word: SIQab'el Part of speech: noun Definition: Scrabble (the game) Source: qepHom 2018 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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law' puS construction with nouns bearing suffixes
by mayqel qunen'oS 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

During battle, an officer sees on the screen something which is surely an armed ship closing in at warp 3 and something else which seems to be a ship which is more heavily armed closing in at warp 7. Is there a reason why we couldn't say the following ? DujHey Qob law' Dujna' Qob puS the apparent ship is more dangerous than the definite ship In the past, we've discussed the noun(s) of a law'/puS construction being {-meH}ed nouns, {-bogh}ed nouns, even noun-noun constructions, but I don't remember having ever discussed whether the noun(s) of a law'/puS construction can take suffixes. ~ Qa'yIn

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