March 2019 - tlhIngan-Hol

Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -meH with -pu'/-ta'
by nIqolay Q 14 Mar '19

14 Mar '19

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:21 AM nIqolay Q <niqolay0(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:52 AM Steven Boozer <sboozer(a)uchicago.edu> > wrote: > >> This is all I have in my notes about {‘an}: >> >> >> >> ‘an waste (v) (qep'a' 2018) >> "as someone sacrifices forces for a certain goal or just wastes one’s >> resources" (qep'a' 2018) >> >> ‘anmoH sacrifice (v) (qep'a' 2018) >> >> >> >> Does anyone have anything else, for example being used in a sentence by >> Okrand from the qep’a’? >> >> >> >> -- Voragh >> > > On Facebook, Lieven posted a video where he was talking about some of the > new words with Okrand. Okrand glossed {'an} as "be a waste", as a stative > verb instead of a transitive one. > Here we go, it's on Youtube. Convenient! https://youtu.be/f2cgPd-TBJE?t=3m49s

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'orghen rojmab
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Mar '19

13 Mar '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, March 13, 2019 Klingon word: 'orghen rojmab Part of speech: noun Definition: Organian Peace Treaty Source: TKD (116 KE) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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-meH with -pu'/-ta'
by mayqel qunen'oS 13 Mar '19

13 Mar '19

There is something which doesn't sit with me so well, in the simultaneous use of -meH with -pu' or -ta'. Lets say I write: {vIghro' tIQ vIje'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'} In order to buy the ancient cat, I went bankrupt. How would this be any different from writing: {vIghro' tIQ vIje'ta'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'} ? First of all, it sounds weird to say {vIje'ta'meH} "in order that I have bought"; but that aside, is there any reason to use a -pu' or -ta' on the -meH part of the sentence, if I'm to use them in the part of the sentence that comes after the -meH ? Isn't the meaning the same in either case ? ~ changan qIj

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qepHom'a' 2019
by Lieven L. Litaer 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

Dear friends of the Klingon language, some of you might already know about our annual meeting that has been going since 2002, but still I'd like to remind the others: The next qepHom'a' is scheduled for 14 til 17 of November 2019 in Saarbrücken, Germany The attendance fee is only 25,- Euro and room rates go from 40,- to 52,- euro and include breakfast, lunch and dinner. Registration is possible until September 15, 2019 one important note: Due to the increased number of interested people, we had to limit the number of attendees. Each registered attendee will be picked randomly and informed about his possibility to attend. registration and more information on http://www.qepHom.de Use hashtag #qepHom2019 -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/QepHomSaarbrücken

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bej and na' slang
by mayqel qunen'oS 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

bej and na' slang are defined as "be sure, be definite, be positive, be certain". If I write jIbej then does this mean "I'm certain" as in "I'm sure, I have no doubt", or "I am the certain" whatever that means ? ~ changan qIj

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ghItlh and jatlh
by mayqel qunen'oS 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

Is ghItlh to be treated as jatlh, with regards to quotations and reporting things others have written ? ~ changan qIj mordor lojmIt'a' lu'elqanglu'ta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'e'
by Klingon Word of the Day 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, March 12, 2019 Klingon word: 'e' Part of speech: pro Definition: that (previous topic) Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Grammatical gender of a mixed group
by Daniel Dadap 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

Is there any evidence in canon of how a group composed of a mixture of speech-capable and non-speech-capable members is treated grammatically? As a simple example, if somebody asked you “puqpu' paqmey je Dalegh'a'?” would you answer (assuming you see all of them): a) chaH bIH je vIlegh b) chaH vIlegh 'ej bIH vIlegh je c) chaH vIlegh d) bIH vIlegh (a) and (b) obviously seem the safest, but in an Earth language where a group whose members have mixed grammatical gender resolves to a single grammatical gender (which might be different from the grammatical genders of its members), it would seem strange. If there’s any examples in canon of something like (c) or (d) happening, I’d be interested to know about them.

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naDev and 'el
by mayqel qunen'oS 11 Mar '19

11 Mar '19

naDev bI'elpa' or naDev Da'elpa' for "before you enter here ?" ~ changan qIj

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A long document
by Daniel Dadap 11 Mar '19

11 Mar '19

Would a long body of text (be it a book, a letter, Grandma’s famous cookie recipe, etc.) be {nI'}, because it takes a long time to read it out loud, or {tIq}, because it occupies a long length of whatever medium it’s imprinted on? My instinct is {nI'}, but I’ve learned not to trust my instinct.

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