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jIqeqnIS
by Michael Roney, Jr. 07 Aug '16

07 Aug '16

<taghwI'> 'oH KLCP patlhwIj'e', 'ach Hoch mu' vIqawlaHbe'. jIqeqnIS. wa'Hu' TKD vIHaDqa'. tlhIngan Hol vIqeqmo'; latlh mu'tlhegh vIneH. <ghojwI'> patlh vIchaw' vIneH. TKD vIbuSnIS. SapwI'pu' vISuqnIS. mu'tlhegh DachenmoH vIneH. DaboQqang'a'? ~naHQun

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] [Tlhingan-hol] Liquid Nitrogen
by André Müller 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

If {bIp'a'} isn't one of the new words (haven't memorized or added them to my stock yet), what does it mean? And where does it come from? - André (mIyanmavo' jIghItlhtaH) On Aug 6, 2016 01:59, "David Joslyn" <gaerfindel(a)hotmail.com> wrote: I realize it doesn't make use of the cool new vocab, but what's wrong with using {voQSIp bIp'a'}? ~quljIb ------------------------------ *From:* tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces(a)lists.kli.org> on behalf of Rhona Fenwick <qeslagh(a)hotmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, August 5, 2016 9:52 AM *To:* tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org *Subject:* Re: [tlhIngan Hol] [Tlhingan-hol] Liquid Nitrogen wa' DoS wIqIp SuStel jIH je. The genitive is not restricted to possession or ownership. My first instinct with "liquid nitrogen" is to render it as {voQSIp betgham} "nitrogen liquid", following the general TKD rendition as "N2 of the N1" (p.31): that is, "liquid of [the] nitrogen". Similarly things like {no'negh SIp} "sulphur gas", {ngIDvoS betgham} "molten lead" (though naturally {ngIDvoS tetlu'pu'bogh} is more literal). Perhaps I'm being influenced by English, where "water ice" is used to speak of frozen water as opposed to frozen methane, carbon dioxide, or so forth, particularly in reports of planetary exploration and such. But {bIQ chuch} feels natural to me for this meaning in Klingon too, and certainly {chuch bIQ} feels entirely wrong. QeS 'utlh _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] [Tlhingan-hol] Liquid Nitrogen
by Steven Boozer 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

>From the BOP Poster we have the N1-N2 noun-noun phrase {rugh bIQSIp} "anti-hydrogen" (lit. "antimatter hydrogen"). How is this grammatically different from *{betgham bIQSIp}? For those not up on their Treknology: (ST Encyclopedia): Deuterium was also used as one of the reactants in the matter/antimatter reaction system in those ships' warp drive. The deuterium was the matter, and anti-hydrogen served as the antimatter. (TNG "Relics") FYI, {bIQSIp 'ugh} "deuterium isotope" (lit. "heavy hydrogen") also comes from the Poster comes from the BOP Poster. -- Voragh > -----Original Message----- > Fiat Knox <fiat_knox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > So, now we know that betgham means liquid (n). Does that mean we can > > now use a noun-noun construction and officially call liquid nitrogen > > *betgham voQSIp?* Ditto for, say, liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen and > > liquid gold? > > I doubt it, since "liquid" in "liquid oxygen" is not a noun but an > adjective. > > {betgham voQSIp} would seem to me to mean "liquid nitrogen" as in "the > nitrogen which is present in this liquid" rather than "nitrogen in liquid > form". > > "The liquid's nitrogen" or "nitrogen of the liquid" would be other ways of > putting it. > > A bit like how I interpret {nuH pegh} (the TKD example) not as a weapon > secret (one concerning a weapon) but as a particular weapon's secret. > > And indeed TKD, says that "N1-N2 (that is, noun #1 followed by noun > #2) would be <N2 of the N1.>", so {betgham voQSIp} would be something like > "nitrogen of the liquid". > > Cheers, > Philip

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] [Tlhingan-hol] Liquid Nitrogen
by Steven Boozer 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

>From the BOP Poster we have the N1-N2 noun-noun phrase {rugh bIQSIp} "anti-hydrogen" (lit. "antimatter hydrogen"). How is this grammatically different from *{betgham bIQSIp}? For those not up on their Treknology: (ST Encyclopedia): Deuterium was also used as one of the reactants in the matter/antimatter reaction system in those ships' warp drive. The deuterium was the matter, and anti-hydrogen served as the antimatter. (TNG "Relics") FYI, {bIQSIp 'ugh} "deuterium isotope" (lit. "heavy hydrogen") also comes from the Poster comes from the BOP Poster. -- Voragh > > -----Original Message----- > > Fiat Knox <fiat_knox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > So, now we know that betgham means liquid (n). Does that mean we can > > > now use a noun-noun construction and officially call liquid nitrogen > > > *betgham voQSIp?* Ditto for, say, liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen and > > > liquid gold? > > > > I doubt it, since "liquid" in "liquid oxygen" is not a noun but an > > adjective. > > > > {betgham voQSIp} would seem to me to mean "liquid nitrogen" as in "the > > nitrogen which is present in this liquid" rather than "nitrogen in > > liquid form". > > > > "The liquid's nitrogen" or "nitrogen of the liquid" would be other > > ways of putting it. > > > > A bit like how I interpret {nuH pegh} (the TKD example) not as a > > weapon secret (one concerning a weapon) but as a particular weapon's > secret. > > > > And indeed TKD, says that "N1-N2 (that is, noun #1 followed by noun > > #2) would be <N2 of the N1.>", so {betgham voQSIp} would be something > > like "nitrogen of the liquid". > > > > Cheers, > > Philip

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'InSong
by qurgh＠wizage.net 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, August 05, 2016 Klingon word: 'InSong Part of speech: noun Definition: flower (bright part of plant) Source: qep'a' 23 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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The trooper
by mayqel qunenoS 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

Dunqu'bogh metal bom law', tu'lu'.. bIH jojDaq iron maiden the trooper tu'lu'bej. qaStaHvIS maH DIS poH law', reH mupIlmoH bomvam. nach velwI' qIj ps : I don't care that {-Daq} is only to be used for physical locations. I just don't.

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Klingon Word of the Day: HolQeD
by qurgh＠wizage.net 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, August 04, 2016 Klingon word: HolQeD Part of speech: noun Definition: the KLI journal Source: KGT (216 KE, 248 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Batman vs Villains
by mayqel qunenoS 03 Aug '16

03 Aug '16

'ej vay' boSov boneH'a' ? wa' batman ghajnIS qo'vam.. wa' bruce wayne ghajnISbej qo'maj.. lamvo' qo'vam Say'moHbogh wa' bruce wayne. HeSwI'pu'vo' qo'maj Say'moHbogh wa' batman. qechmeymaj quv 'oSbogh wa' bruce wayne ; pagh bamvIpbogh wa' bruce wayne. bruce waynevetlh ghorlaH pagh. bruce waynevetlh ghIjlaH pagh. ngugh neH, mev qo'maj lungejbogh jIvvo''e'. 'a - Do'Ha' - bruce wayne tu'lu'be'.. nach velwI' qIj Sent from my goat phone

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Klingon Word of the Day: reghuluSngan
by qurgh＠wizage.net 03 Aug '16

03 Aug '16

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, August 03, 2016 Klingon word: reghuluSngan Part of speech: noun Definition: Regulan Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Batman vs Villains
by mayqel qunenoS 03 Aug '16

03 Aug '16

gotham much ghom vIbejtaHvIS, wa'vam Doch vIneH ; wa'vam Doch vItultaH : batman moj bruce wayne vIneH ; batman ngup tuQmoH bruce wayne 'ej batman mojDI' jIvvo'pu' Qaw'. batman jIvvo'pu' vImuSqu' ! mIghqu' chaH 'ej pagh quv lughaj. meqvammo' HomDu'chaj ghorDI' batman, jIQuchchoH ! nach velwI' qIj Sent from my goat phone

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