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banshee
by mayqel qunen'oS 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

HaSta jIH lut mIr law'qu' tu'lu'. 'ej lut mIr law' vIbejpu'. 'a, muDuQpu' *banshee*. *banshee* bertlham vIbejtaHvIS, jIQuchmo' jISaQ. ~ m. qunen'oS

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New words from "Miniatur Wunderland"
by Lieven L. Litaer 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

Hi there, intended as an April fools joke which is not a joke (so somehow a Schrödinger's joke?), the world's largest model railway in Germany has published their promotional video in Klingon. See the video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ovl2G2jsYM and on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=338690640114293 For future reference, details and new words are listed in the Klingon Language wiki: http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/MiniaturWunderland These are the words: {ghI'neS} n. "Guinness", Klingon spelling for the company name {Hamburgh} n. "Hamburg" (city)" {men} vt. "have an area of..." {mu'neqo} n. "Monaco" {nu'} va. "be particularly small" {SIqenDInavya'} n. "Scandinavia" {tIHmey} n. "railroad tracks" [based on tIH "shaft of speer"] {tlharwIl Duj} n. "railroad car" [part of a train] {'ewro} n. "Euro" [European currency] The most interesting word certainly is {nu'}. To show the difference: a {targhHom} is just a small targ, but a {targh nu'} can only refer to a "toy targ". Okrand's words: ------ There's no noun Maltz is aware of like "miniature" (small model or version of something). {machqu'} is fine, but if you want to avoid it, you could use the verb {nu'} which means something like "be particularly small" and is often used of things that are smaller than the usual or expected size. In general, things that are {nu'} are smaller than those that are {mach} or even {machqu'} — but there's no hard line or specific rule. If/when it's appropriate, you could also make use of {-Hom}. ------ After I asked for atoms, this was the answer: ------- You might use it for atoms (if the context is appropriate). It wouldn't mean "smaller than expected" in that case — only "tiny" or something like that. ------ So roughly, {nu'} is even smaller than small. "mini". -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.net

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Is the given meaning definite ?
by mayqel qunen'oS 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

There are some klingon words, which's given english definitions don't match the direct translation of the klingon word. Is it imperative, that when using such words, we need to be thinking of the given english definition, or can we use the same klingon word to express what the klingon word actually means ? To illustrate my obscure point, I will use the verb Say'qu'moH and an ancient cat. So, lets say we just spent a fortune to acquire an ancient cat, and the first thing we do is to make it very clean.. {vIghro' tIQ wIje'ta'bogh wISay'qu'moH} we make the ancient cat which we have bought very clean Right ? But the problem is, that Say'qu'moH has been given as "to sterilize". So, although the klingon says "we make the cat very clean", the Ca'NoN translation says "we sterilize the cat". And because I can *feel* someone ready to say that "to sterilize" is to "make something very clean", I will rush to say YOU ARE WRONG !!! To sterilize means to make something germ-free. Making something very clean, means making it very clean.. To be sterile is to be very clean, to be very clean isn't to be sterile. So, the question is: Can we use Say'qu'moH to mean what it actually means i.e. "to make something very clean", or since it has been given as "to sterilize", it can only mean "sterilize" ? ~ changan qIj

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According to Matthew chapter 9
by mayqel qunen'oS 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

There are parts which are easy and straightforward, and then there are parts, which make you want to smash your computer against the wall. Unfortunately, the latter are way more numerous than the former.. http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/GospelOfMatthew 'ay' Hut 1 'ej bIQ'a' Duj 'el *jesus*, Dop Dop jaH, 'ej vengDaj paw. 2 'ej yIlegh, *jesus*Daq vIHlaHbe'chu'wI' luqem 'op nuvpu'; QongDaqDaq ghaHtaH vIHlaHbe'chu'wI''e'. Harqu' vIHlaHbe'chu'wI' luqempu'bogh nuvpu''e' 'e' tlhojDI' *jesus*, vIHlaHbe'chu'wI'vaD jatlh: >>> yIyoH, puqwI' ! bIyempu'; DaqeHHa'lu'. <<< 3 'ej yIlegh, pa' chaHtaH 'op *scribe*pu''e'; 'ej QubtaHvIS 'op *scribe*pu', tIqDu'chajDaq jatlh: >>> Qun tIch. <<< 4 'ach mu'mey'e' Qubbogh *scribe*pu' tu' *jesus*, vaj jatlh: >>> qatlh, tIqDu'rajDaq mu'mey mIgh boQub ? 5 > bIyempu'; DaqeHHa'lu' < mu'mey tu'lu', 'ej > yIHu' 'ej yIyIt < mu'mey tu'lu' je'; 'op mu'mey ngeD law' latlh mu'mey ngeD puS. mu'meyvam bongu'laH'a' ? 6 tera'Daq, yempu'bogh nuvpu' qeHHa'laH Human puqloD; teblaw' ghaj 'e' botlhojmeH.. - ghIq vIHmoHlaHbe'chu'wI'vaD jatlh: > yIHu', QongDaqlIj yIwoH, 'ej juHlIj yIjaH. < <<< 7 'ej, Hu', 'ej juHDaj jaH. 8 wanI'vam luleghDI' Dojmey, Qun luHo' 'ej luquvmoH, Humanpu'vaD teblaw'vam Dun nobmo' Qun. 9 'ej Daqvam chIqtaHvIS *jesus*, wa' loD legh; rupmeH ghogh'otmey SuqmeH yaHDaq ba' loDvam, 'ej ghaHvaD *matthew* ponglu', 'ej *matthew*vaD jatlh *jesus*: >>> HItlha'. <<< 'ej Hu' *matthew* 'ej *jesus* tlha'choH. 10 'ej juH qoDDaq ba'taHvIS *jesus*, yIlegh, pa' lupaw rupmeH ghogh'otmey Huch SuqwI'pu' yemwI'pu' je, 'ej *jesus* ghojwI'pu'Daj tlhej nuvpu'vam. 11 'ej wanI'vam luleghDI' *pharisee*pu', ghojwI'pu'DajvaD jatlh: >>> qatlh rupmeH ghogh'otmey Huch SuqwI'pu' yemwI'pu' je tlhej ghojmoHwI'ra', SoptaHvIS nuvpu'vam ? <<< 12 'ach, *pharisee*pu' QoyDI' *jesus*, chaHvaD jatlh: >>> Qel lughajnISbe' pIvwI'pu', 'ach lughajnIS ropwI'pu'. 13 > pung vIneH, 'anmoHmeH ta' vIneHbe' < mu'meyvam QIjchu'ghach boghojmeH petlheD. jaS vangnISbe' ghob nuvpu', 'ach jaS vangnISchoH yemwI'pu', vaj nuvpu' Sarvam vIrItmeH, jIpawta'. <<< 14 ghIq, *jesus* lujaH jan ghojwI'pu', 'ej jatlh: >>> qatlh pIj 'op Soj Sarmey DISopbe' maH *pharisee*pu' je, 'ach 'op Soj Sarmey Sopbe'Qo' ghojwI'pu'lI' ? <<< 15 'ej chaHvaD *jesus* jatlh: >>> 'IQqu' tlhogh nuvpu', nuvpu'vam tlhejtaHvIS tlhoghbogh loD; qIt'a' ghu'vam ? 'ach, tagha' qaSchoH jajmey, 'ej qaStaHvIS jajmeyvam, tlhogh nuvpu'vo' yaH tlhoghbogh loD. ngugh, 'op Soj Sarmey Sopbe'choH nuvpu'vam. 16 Sut ngo'Daq Sut chu' 'ay' chel pagh. Sut ngo'Daq Sut chu' 'ay' chelchugh vay', vaj Sut ngo'vo' luH'egh 'ay' chu', 'ej 'argh Duy'. 17 'ej DIr ngaSwI'mey ngo'Daq HIq chu' luqangbe' nuvpu'. DIr ngaSwI'mey ngo'Daq HIq chu' luqangchugh, vaj ngaSwI'mey ngo'Daq qaSchoH Qarghmey, Qoy' HIq, 'ej lI'be'qu'choH ngaSwI'mey. 'ach DIr ngaSwI'mey chu'Daq HIq chu' luqang nuvpu', vaj taH ngaSwI'mey HIq je. <<< 18 chaHvaD, mu'meyvam jatlhtaHvIS *jesus*, yIlegh, paw wa' che'wI', 'ej *jesus* tlhopDaq tortaHvIS jatlh: >>> qen, Hegh puqbe'wI'; 'ach yIghoS, ghaHDaq ghoplIj yIlan, 'ej yInqa'. <<< 19 'ej Hu' *jesus*, 'ej che'wI' tlha'. che'wI' lutlha' je' *jesus* ghojwI'pu'. 20 'ej yIlegh, *jesus* 'emDaq chol wa' be'; qaStaHvIS wa'maH cha' DIS regh be'vam, 'ej *jesus* Sut HeH Hot; 21 tIqDajDaq, jatlh be'vam: >>> SutDaj vIHotchugh, vaj jIpIvchoH. jIpIvchoHmeH, qaSnIS wanI'vam neH, 'ej yap. <<< 22 'ej porghDaj tlhe' *jesus*, 'ej be'vam leghDI', jatlh: >>> yIyoH, puqbe'; bIHar, 'ej DutoD HarmeH laHlIj. <<< ngugh, pIvchoH be'. 23 che'wI' juH pawDI' *jesus*, Dov'agh chu'wI'pu' qev je legh. jotHa'qu' Hoch 'ej 'IQ. 24 chaHvaD jatlh: >>> pemej ; Heghpu'be' be'Hom. Qong. <<< 'ej *jesus* lunuSchoH. 25 juH lumejpu'DI' nuvpu', 'el *jesus*, be'Hom ghop 'uch, 'ej Hu' be'Hom. 26 'ej Sepvam HochDaq, noychoH wanI'vam. 27 'ej Daqvetlh chIqtaHvIS *jesus*, lutlha' cha' leghlaHbe'chu'wI'pu', jachtaH 'ej jatlhtaH: >>> maHvaD pung yI'agh, *david* puqloD. <<< 28 juH pawDI' *jesus*, ghaHDaq chol leghlaHbe'chu'wI'pu', 'ej chaHvaD jatlh *jesus*: >>> ta'vam vIta'laH 'e' boHar'a' ? <<< ghaHvaD jang; jatlh: >>> HIja', joH. <<< 29 ghIq, mInDu'chaj Hot, jatlhtaHvIS: >>> SuHar; jaSHa' tlhIHvaD qaSjaj. <<< 30 'ej poSchoH mInDu'chaj. 'ach, nuvpu'vam ra' *jesus*, 'ej ra'taHvIS yItlh; jatlh: >>> wanI'vam SovmeH pagh, peyep. <<< 31 'ach, Haw'DI', Sepvam HochDaq *jesus* lunoymoH. 32 'ej Haw'taHvIS nuvpu'vam, yIlegh, *jesus*Daq loD qemlu'; jatlhlaHbe'chu' loDvam, 'ej SeHchu' wa' *demon*. 33 'ej *demon*vam vujDI' *jesus*, jatlhchoH jatlhlaHbe'chu'wI'vam. 'ej Ho' Dojmey, jatlhtaHvIS: >>> not, yISra'elDaq qaSpu' Sarvam wanI'. <<< 34 'ach, jatlh *pharisee*pu': >>> *demon*pu' vujmeH nuvvam, *demon*pu' che'wI' HoS lo'. <<< 35 'ej Hoch vengmeyDaq Hoch vengHommeyDaq je leng *jesus*, chIrghmeychajDaq ghojmoH, wo' QaQbogh De' chu' maq, 'ej rop Sarmey Hoch vor, roptaHghach Sarmey Hoch vor je. 36 Dojmey leghDI' *jesus*, pung SIQ; 'ej Dojmeyvam SaH, Doy'qu'mo' nuvpu'vam, 'ej lulonlu'pu'mo'. QanwI' luHutlhbogh DI'raqmey rur Dojmeyvam. 37 ngugh, ghojwI'pu'DajvaD jatlh: >>> law' Du' naH'e' yobnISbogh vumwI'pu', 'ach puS vumwI'pu'; 38 meqvammo', Du'Daj naHmey yobbogh vumwI'pu' ngeHmeH Du' joH, yItlhob. <<< ~ m. qunen'oS

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Klingon Word of the Day: nIHwI'
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, June 19, 2019 Klingon word: nIHwI' Part of speech: noun Definition: thief Source: TKD (96 KE, 157 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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yobta' yupma'
by mayqel qunen'oS 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

At qepHom 2014, the {yobta' yupma'} was given for "harvest festival". A phrase which has something to do with some novel, but that's not important. Can someone use the {yobta'} on its own for "a/the harvest", or does it have to be used as a set phrase {yobta' yupma'} ? ~ m. qunen'oS I find set phrases disturbing

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noun-noun constructions and {Hoch}
by mayqel qunen'oS 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

Is there any known restriction, in using {Hoch} in the middle of a noun-noun construction ? For example: juH Hoch raS each table of the house It "feels" somewhat strange seeing a {Hoch} in the middle, but I can't understand if there is indeed something wrong with it. The only "problem" I can think of, is perhaps the ambiguity of whether the {Hoch} refers to the {raS} or to the {juH}. ~ m. qunen'oS

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tlhIngan maH
by Lieven L. Litaer 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

I've just been asked this by a beginner. I know what I could answer, but I wondered if there is a canon explanation, and also what your answers might be. It has certainly been asked before: Why is it {tlhIngan maH} and not {tlhInganpu' maH}? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/BeginnersQuestions

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{Sa'Hut qung} lo'lu''a' pagh {Sa'Hut QemjIq} lo'lu''a'?
by Michael Kúnin 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

Accroding to Maltz, one can fill a {QemjIq} but not a {qung} so would {Sa'Hut QemjIq} be more appropriate?

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ALPHA CENTAURI retlhDaq latlh yuQmey nejlI’ chuq’a’ leghwI’ SommI' chu'
by Steven Boozer 18 Jun '19

18 Jun '19

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-new-part-of-the-very-large-telescope-is-sear… (Seizing an opportunity to use two of the new words from the last qepHom. -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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