July 2024 - tlhIngan-Hol

Claudian quote
by James Landau 28 Jul '24

28 Jul '24

Today I came across this quote by the Roman emperor Claudian: "It is no victory unless the vanquished foe admits your mastery." Sounds very Klingon-y. Who can make the best translation into tlhIngan Hol?

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Claudian quote
by James Landau 28 Jul '24

28 Jul '24

Will Morton emailed this to both tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org and me personally yesterday, but it never showed up on the mailing list. Therefore, I'm forwarding it to tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: William Morton <will.morton1(a)verizon.net>To: tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org <tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org>; tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org <tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org>Cc: James Landau <savegraduation(a)yahoo.com>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 at 04:01:35 PM PDTSubject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Claudian quote How about re-wording the quote in English to say: "Only if the foe admits that you are superior, have you achieved victory."And translating it: "neH, SunIv 'e' Qochbe'chugh pagh bojeybogh, yay bochevpu'."Holmey wam On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 03:40:25 PM PDT, James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org> wrote: Today I came across this quote by the Roman emperor Claudian: "It is no victory unless the vanquished foe admits your mastery." Sounds very Klingon-y. Who can make the best translation into tlhIngan Hol? _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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Klingon Word of the Day: Qub
by Klingon Word of the Day 27 Jul '24

27 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, July 27, 2024 Klingon word: Qub Part of speech: verb Definition: think Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: qach DIS
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Jul '24

26 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, July 26, 2024 Klingon word: qach DIS Part of speech: noun Definition: basement Source: qepHom 2022 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word Wiki - special pages
by Lieven L. Litaer 25 Jul '24

25 Jul '24

Hi there, since Voragh just asked for a place to find new words, here are some useful pages on the wiki: https://klingon.wiki/Word/WebYoungTopicList This page lists latest additions, but that doesn't mean those are new words. (It could show a missing word TKD added yesterday, for instance) A simple list of latest changes: https://klingon.wiki/Word/WebChanges By the way, as of today exactly, we have finished the German translation of the Klingon Word Wiki, which took us almost 19 months. The reason for that long time is because it's not only the words, but also tons of canon examples and explanations. https://klingon.wiki/Wort/Inhalt The opposite of the above list, is this one containing those pages which were not changed after their creation. The oldest among these are nearly 5 years old. Just in case anyone likes to refresh them: https://klingon.wiki/Word/WebOldestPages -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" https://tlhInganHol.com

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'och mutlhwI'
by Klingon Word of the Day 25 Jul '24

25 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, July 25, 2024 Klingon word: 'och mutlhwI' Part of speech: noun Definition: plumber Source: Marc Okrand, Email 01/09/2012 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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muvtay
by Lieven L. Litaer 25 Jul '24

25 Jul '24

Hello, I just saw that {muvtay} appeared with {nentay} in the addendum of TKD. But I couldn't find any "initiation rite" in Star Trek. Am I missing something? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" https://tlhInganHol.com https://klingon.wiki/Word/Muvtay

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new word: {tlhI'}
by Lieven L. Litaer 25 Jul '24

25 Jul '24

I am currntly working on a kind of exercise book. THe german version has been published, the English version will appear soon, but not before the qep'a'. The contents of the story is a young woman going to a convention. She gets to a situation the get an actor give an autograph. I learned from Maltz that one does not use {qI'} (sign a treaty) for that. Instead, use {tlhI'} "sign, autograph" (verb and noun) Quote from Marc Okrand: ------------------- {qI’} is a verb meaning “sign” as when signing a treaty, contract, loan agreement, etc. It also means “register for” or “sign up for,” typically used in reference to accounts (online or otherwise) but it’s also used for signing up for a conference or class or even for auditions for a team or show. What underlies this is that something — an obligation or commitment or pact or response or arrangement of some sort — comes about as a result of the signing (or signing up). {qI’} can also be used for signing a petition. In this case, the signer hopes for an action or response on the part of the recipient of the petition, knowing, however, that it may not come to pass. What might come about as a result of the signing is potential. The signing (or signing up) need not be done by putting pen to paper or the like. It can be electronic (e-signing) or anything else that is recognized by the parties involved. {qI’} is still the verb used for this. The object of {qI’} is the document (actual or electronic or whatever) that the “signature” ends up on or associated with, thereby becoming documentation of the commitment. When one signs an autograph, there is no commitment or reponse involved. A celebrity’s signature on a photo, for example, implies no expectation that the celebrity (or anyone else) will or might do anything. Accordingly, {qI’} is not appropriate here. The verb used for signing an autograph is {tlhI’}. This is also the verb to use for artists signing their works. This action involves making a mark of some kind that is associated specifically with the mark maker. This mark could be (and maybe usually is) the name of the signer (that is, a signature) made in a distinctive way that only the signer uses, perhaps in a form difficult to decipher by those unfamiliar with what it is. As with {qI’}, the object of {tlhI’} is the document (or photo, work of art, etc.) that the signature is applied to. There is also a noun {tlhI’} that might best be translated as “signature.” (It is not grammatical to say {tlhI’ tlhI’} “sign a signature”; the verb {tlhI'} already includes the notion that the resulting mark is a {tlhI’}. Well, {tlhI’ tlhI’} could be used, I suppose, if one were to sign on top of an already-existing {tlhI’}.) {bItlhI’ vIneH}, literally something like “I want you to sign,” would be understood to mean “I want your autograph.” (Similarly: {paqwIj DatlhI’ vIneH} would be understood to mean “I want you to autograph my book.”) Interestingly, {tlhI’} (both the noun and the verb) may also refer to what an animal does to mark its territory. To write (or make marks) in general is, of course {ghItlh}. ------------------- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" https://tlhInganHol.com https://klingon.wiki/En/KlingonAtConventions

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Klingon Word of the Day: jorja
by Klingon Word of the Day 24 Jul '24

24 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, July 24, 2024 Klingon word: jorja Part of speech: noun Definition: Georgia (US state) Source: qepHom 2018 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: tlhawjoq
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Jul '24

23 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, July 23, 2024 Klingon word: tlhawjoq Part of speech: noun Definition: mantle (geology) Source: qep'a' 28 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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