July 2021 - tlhIngan-Hol

for some unknown reason pictures of sleeping cats relax me
by mayqel qunen'oS 14 Jul '21

14 Jul '21

'op ngoDmo' vIngu'laHbe'bogh muleSmoH Qongbogh vIghro' mIlloghmey. qatlh qaS wanI'vam? jISovbe'chu', 'a Qongbogh vIghro' vIleghDI', reH jIQongnISchoH je. taQ.. ~ Dana'an

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Klingon Word of the Day: beqquj
by Klingon Word of the Day 14 Jul '21

14 Jul '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, July 14, 2021 Klingon word: beqquj Part of speech: noun Definition: type of mineral, *bekpuj* (orange in color) Source: This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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hellenic gods - personified concepts part 8
by mayqel qunen'oS 14 Jul '21

14 Jul '21

en Mania - spirit or spirits of madness, insanity, and frenzy. The Moirai - Clotho, the spinner of the life thread. Lachesis, the measurer of the life thread. Atropos, the severer of the life thread. Momus - spirit of mockery, blame, censure and stinging criticism. Moros - spirit of doom. The Neikea - spirits of quarrels, feuds and grievances. Nemesis - goddess of revenge, balance, righteous indignation, and retribution. Nike - goddess of victory. tlh *mania *- maw’ nuv; ropmo’ nuv yab, nuv motlh DalaHbe’; Seychu’mo’ nuv, ralchoH; Hochvam qa’/qa’pu’. *moirai* - Sanpu’; *clotho* (yIn SIrgh nIq *clotho*), *lachesis* (yIn SIrgh juv qa’vam), *atropos* (yIn SIrgh pe’ qa’vam). *momus* - vaq vay’, pIch, naDHa’chu’, nuv berghchoHmoH latlh nuv vuD/yoj; ghu’meyvam ‘oS *momus*. *moros* - qabchu’bogh San; lot’e’ ngabmoHlaHbe’chu’bogh nuv; Sarvam San/lot qa’. *neikea *- Sol nuvpu’; qaS not mevbogh yol’a’mey; nuv/nuvpu’ QIHmo’ vay’, bep ‘ej SotchoH; Hochvam luchIw *neikea*. *nemesis* - bortaS be’ ghaHbogh Qun’e’. qaSmo’ wa’ ghu’, qaS latlh ghu’. maybe’lu’mo’, nuv mawlu’mo’, tIchlu’mo’, belHa’choHchu’ nuv, qoj QeHchoH; ghu’vam Qun. nuv QIHpu’mo’ vay’, qoj bechmoHpu’mo’, noD nuvvam; ghu’vam Qun je. *nike: - *yay be’ ghaHbogh Qun’e’. ~ Dana'an

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Klingon Word of the Day: Sum
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Jul '21

13 Jul '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, July 13, 2021 Klingon word: Sum Part of speech: verb Definition: be nearby Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: pun
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Jul '21

13 Jul '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, July 10, 2021 Klingon word: pun Part of speech: verb Definition: be low (in pitch) Source: qepHom 2018 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: tlhaw'
by Klingon Word of the Day 12 Jul '21

12 Jul '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, July 12, 2021 Klingon word: tlhaw' Part of speech: verb Definition: hit (percussion instrument) with fist Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] negative imperatives with {not} imperatives with adverbs
by Will Martin 12 Jul '21

12 Jul '21

Very interesting and insightful. Would {not} pass as a variation on the idea of a time stamp? It’s a sort of anti-time stamp, like a negative irrealis. There’s this other reality where I tell you to kneel, and the reality we are in is not that reality. When do you kneel? NEVER! charghwI’, retired > On Jul 12, 2021, at 9:28 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > SuStel: > > You just happened to pick one of the > > (apparently) few English adverbials that > > doesn't work well in the imperative mood. > > So that's what's happening! Finally I understand. Thanks. > > ~ Dana'an > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol(a)lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

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negative imperatives with {not} imperatives with adverbs
by mayqel qunen'oS 12 Jul '21

12 Jul '21

In english we say: "kneel!"/"never kneel!". If we are to translate the above in klingon, then the "kneel" obviously becomes "yItor", but what about the "never kneel!"? Perhaps I'm influnced by greek on this matter, but I need to ask, since this seems strange to me: If we say in klingon {not yItor} for "never kneel", is it correct? It's just that for some reason I can't seem to be able to describe, the {not}/{yI-} combination seems strange. And now that I'm thinking of this, could we say {reH yIHaD} for "always study!"? Again the adverb/imperative combination seems strange. ~ Dana'an

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Klingon Word of the Day: Quj
by Klingon Word of the Day 11 Jul '21

11 Jul '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, July 11, 2021 Klingon word: Quj Part of speech: verb Definition: play (a game) Source: TKD (104 KE, 134 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] rules to live by
by DloraH 09 Jul '21

09 Jul '21

On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 11:01 -0400, SuStel wrote: On 7/9/2021 10:52 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote: > > SuStel: > > > It's because woman does not imply a > > > relationship to anyone, so saying my > > > woman is implying actual ownership. In > > > contemporary English, that is. > > > > This seems strange.. > > > > In Greek we never say "my wife" unless in a very formal setting. > > 99,999% of the time we say "my woman" to refer to the one we're > > married too. And no one considers this derrogatory; not even the > > most radical feminists. > > My guess (and it's only a guess) is that *be'wI'*/my woman/ would be > acceptable to Klingons in the same way it seems acceptable to you in > Greek. > > In Maori, "woman" and "wife" are the same word. But... Maori does have different types of possession. One type includes people you have responsibility/superiority over, and things you have control of. children, wife/husband, pets, man made objects - computer, knife, cup (but not things like clothing, drinking water, things used for transport) Another type of possession includes parents, siblings, friends, clothes, shelter, transport (So, if say, you own a horse; if the horse is a pet, it is in the first group; but if the horse is used for transport, it is in the second group.) If a woman is your wife, you would use a possession word covering the first group. If a woman is a friend or coworker, you would use a possession word covering the second group. (There are several possession words. First person, second person, third person; and each of those has singular, plural) - DloraH

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