August 2019 - tlhIngan-Hol

neH and 'e' qa'
by mayqel qunen'oS 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Recently, I wrote: {bingon Dalo'; tlhIngan Hol Dalo' 'e' qa'. DaneHchugh..} Then I wrote: {bingon Dalo' DaneH; tlhIngan Hol Dalo' DaneH 'e' qa'} The intended meaning was "if you want to use bingon instead of klingon" Can someone tell me, which of the two versions expresses the intended meaning ? Because no matter how much I think about it, I can't understand what's the difference between them.. ~ mayqel qunen'oS klingon.. bingon.. all the same..

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Klingon Word of the Day: chu'wI'
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, August 24, 2019 Klingon word: chu'wI' Part of speech: noun Definition: player (of an instrument) Source: ADD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: berlIn
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, August 25, 2019 Klingon word: berlIn Part of speech: noun Definition: Berlin Source: qep'a' 26 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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expressing cigarette
by mayqel qunen'oS 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Does anyone have any ideas on how to express "cigarette" ? All I can think of, is {tlhIch gho tut}. But this brings to mind a cylinder of smoke, and not the actual cigarette. ~ cxcxcxx

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Bing rIchqa'lu'
by Hugh Son puqloD 25 Aug '19

25 Aug '19

DIvI' HolvaD vay' Damugh DaneHchugh 'ej Bing Dalo' DaneHchugh, yIruch! qay' mu'tlhegh mughlu'pu'bogh ghaytan 'e' jemlaHbe' HochHom DIvI' rewbe'pu'. Federation Language, if you will, damug to any one and if you do it, you use it, you bing! problem of the translator, I would likely amid the jem could not All Federation.

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bingon
by mayqel qunen'oS 25 Aug '19

25 Aug '19

fse: If you want to write in bingon instead of klingon, then it's ok. Most klingons will never know the difference.. tlh: QIn DaqontaHvIS, bingon Dalo'; tlhIngan Hol Dalo' 'e' qa'. DaneHchugh, vaj qay'be'. not pImbogh vay' lu'tu' HochHom tlhInganpu'. hahaha ~ cbcbcbb

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Mandos bIghHa' notqa'
by SuStel 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

ghIq muSchoH /Fëanor/ 'ej ghIjbe'choH. /Melkor/ 'IghmoH 'ej mej /Melkor/ 'e' ra'. jatlh, «lojmItwIjvo' yIghoS, /Mandos/ bIghHa' notqa'!» /Eä /DabwI''e' /Melkor/ HoSghaj law' Hoch HoSghaj puS; DabwI'vam qab tlhopDaq juHDaj lojmItmey SoQmoH /Fëanor/. Then hate overcame Fëanor’s fear, and he cursed Melkor and bade him be gone, saying: ‘Get thee gone from my gate, thou jail-crow of Mandos!’ And he shut the doors of his house in the face of the mightiest of all the dwellers in Eä. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'aSralya'
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, August 23, 2019 Klingon word: 'aSralya' Part of speech: noun Definition: Australia Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: mev
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, August 21, 2019 Klingon word: mev Part of speech: verb Definition: stop, cease Source: TKD (94 KE, 123 EK, 155 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Silmarillion - For am I not a Vala also ?
by mayqel qunen'oS 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

fse: Behold the truth of all that I have spoken, and how thou art banished unjustly. But if the heart of Feanor is yet free and bold as were his words in Tirion, then I will aid him, and bring him far from this narrow land. For am I not a Vala also ? Yea, and more than those who sit in pride in Valimar; and I have ever been a friend to the Noldor, most skilled and most valiant of the people of Arda. tlh: jIjatlhpu', 'ej mu'meywIj vIt yItlhoj. nIghImpu' 'ej nIghImtaHvIS nIQIH. pa'logh, tlhabpu' feanor tIq 'ej Qob bamvIpbe'pu'; *tirion*Daq jatlhtaHvIS feanor, mu'meyDaj rur tIqDaj. choHpu'be'chugh ngoDvam, vaj vIQaH, ghaHvaD Sepvam langvo' vIghoSmoH, 'ej vIHopmoH. *vala* jIHbe''a' je ? HIja'. *valimar* luDab *valar* chaHbogh 'op'e', 'ej Hem. 'ach vala jIHqu'. *noldor*pu' yoHqu' law' Hoch *arda* nuvpu' yoHqu' puS. 'ej reH *noldor*pu'vaD jup jIHpu'. Comments: 1st: Reading the "for am I not a Vala also ?" gives me goosebumps. It's fracking perfect. 2nd: {nIghImtaHvIS nIQIH} for "thou art banished unjustly". I know that someone can say: by describing it this way, it can be perceived, that while he was being exiled, he was being wronged for some other reason irrelevant to the "his being exiled". But I disagree. I believe that context makes it clear that "by being exiled he was wronged". If I say "while I was insulting you, I was disrespectful", then what will you understand ? That I was disrespecting you for a different reason, irrelevant to my insulting you ? Unless of course, if while someone reads klingon, his IQ diminishes by 50 points or something.. Of course, I could always write {nIghImpu'mo' nIQIHpu'}, but I think that this lacks the "fluid" feel of the original. Or as ghItlhjaj had written quite sometime ago, I could use {Da}: {nIghImtaHvIS QIHwI'pu' Da} {nIghImpu'mo' QIHwI'pu' Da } But I get a different feeling from "they behaved as people who wronged you", compared to the "they wronged you". Alternatively, klingon could have an adverbializer as it has a nominalizer.. But oops ! Excuse me, I forgot.. Because klingon is perfect, it doesn't need to concern itself with such trivia.. Why would such a perfect language, such a work of art, such a revelation of none other that qeylIS himself, need to care for things so many other languages already have ? Sorry for forgetting. My bad.. 3rd: {ghaHvaD Sepvam langvo' vIghoSmoH} I wondered whether we can have a noun with a {-vo'} being the object of the verb which follows it. But since we know, that a noun with {-Daq} *can* be an object, and since the {-Daq} is a type-5, I thought, "why not ?" Of course, I could have written too: {Sepvam langvo' vImejmoH} with the {vI-} referring to the unstated "him". Or I could have written: {ghaHvaD Sepvam lang vImejmoH} And qeylIS knows I could have just written: {vImejmoH} But I like more the {ghaHvaD Sepvam langvo' vIghoSmoH} 4th: {*noldor*pu' yoHqu' law' Hoch *arda* nuvpu' yoHqu' puS} I put the {-qu'} in {yoH}, because a little bird told me, that in paq'batlh we have the following: {SoH rallaw' law' Hoch rallaw' puS} Of course, I could have just written: {*noldor*pu' yoH law' Hoch *arda* nuvpu' yoH puS} But reading m-w, I understood "valiant" as describing someone who is more brave, than "just brave", so I thought that shoving a {-qu'} would be called for. Also, as far as the {Hoch *arda* nuvpu'} of {*noldor*pu' yoHqu' law' Hoch *arda* nuvpu' yoHqu' puS} is concerned.. I distinctively remember having seen a Ca'Non law'/puS sentence where the {Hoch} was similarly part of a noun phrase, and not just on its own. Sadly, I don't remember that sentence.. However, I *could* have written it as: {*arda* nuvpu''e' *noldor*pu' yoHqu' law' Hoch yoHqu' puS} But I didn't. 5th: {*valar* chaHbogh 'op, 'ej Hem. 'ach vala jIHqu'} for "(being a vala) more than those who sit in pride in valimar" I *could* have said this in a "classic" law'/puS construction: {valar'e' jIH Dun law' valimar valar Dun puS} But I feel that by saying chaH/jIHqu', expresses more the "feeling" of "they are valar but I AM vala". And after all, lets be honest.. Who actually reads the klingon that is being written here anyway ? I would bet real money, that if I started a message with klingon, three sentences later it changed to bingon, and three sentences before the end it became klingon again, noone would ever notice. Perhaps, *that's* why in tkd it says: "most klingons will never know the difference" Yea.. that must be it.. ~ qnqnqnn

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