November 2018 - tlhIngan-Hol

qepHom 2018 - Music
by Lieven L. Litaer 20 Nov '18

20 Nov '18

The words we received from Maltz for this year's qepHom were not sorted by any system. I tried to arrange them by topics, which I will use in the subject line, so the discussions about the words are also sorted. ---- ra' v. conduct (an orchestra) – literally command, order. ghenraq n. orchestra – This is for a reasonably large group of instrumentalists. A more general term for a group (of any size) playing music is just QoQ ghom. Sam n. shawm – This is a loanword from Federation Standard. nItlh gheb n. trumpet -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWordsQepHom2018

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qepHom 2018 - making sounds
by Lieven L. Litaer 20 Nov '18

20 Nov '18

The words we received from Maltz for this year's qepHom were not sorted by any system. I tried to arrange them by topics, which I will use in the subject line, so the discussions about the words are also sorted. ---- Huy v. hum – can be used both for singing without words and for the sound a (not huge) engine makes. Used also for the sound of a cat: purr. Qoghogh v. snort – like a pig does, but not restricted to pigs or targs ghughugh v. growl HaS v. squeak – [This is not only for animals. It can also be used for the sound an old door or a wooden chest does when you open it, if it's a sort of high pitch.] Ham v. be high (in pitch) – as in high voice pun v. be low (in pitch) – as in deep voice [These pitch words can also be used in music to talk about high and low tones.] -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWordsQepHom2018

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qepHom 2018 - place names
by Lieven L. Litaer 20 Nov '18

20 Nov '18

The words we received from Maltz for this year's qepHom were not sorted by any system. I tried to arrange them by topics, which I will use in the subject line, so the discussions about the words are also sorted. bIrI'tIS qolambIya British Columbia jorja Georgia (US state) mongghol 'uluS Mongolia qalIvornIya California qamerun Cameroon qebeq Quebec qebeq veng Quebec City 'ayItI Haiti 'onteryo Ontario -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWordsQepHom2018

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A silly question on {ngeH}
by mayqel qunenoS 20 Nov '18

20 Nov '18

Perhaps this is a silly-bordering-on-stupid question, but since I genuinely don't understand I need to ask.. If I say {Qo'noSDaq vIghro' vIngeH}, then what does it mean ? That I'm somewhere (unspecified in that sentence), and from that somewhere I will send the cat to Kronos ? Or does it mean that I'm on Kronos, and while I'm being there, I'm sending the cat somewhere (unspecified by this sentence) ? Or does it mean both ? ~ mayqel qunen'oS vIghro'mey quvmoHjaj Hoch !

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grammatical clarifications from Maltz
by Lieven L. Litaer 20 Nov '18

20 Nov '18

The new words from the qepHom 2018 have been included in Hol 'ampaS and boQwI' already, the KLI's word list might also have them already. Finally I have the time to publish them, so here we go first with some grammtical clarifications. The words are Okrand's. (Note for nitpickers: Okrands message was using bold an italic, which is lost in this unformattted mail. That's why I added the brackets.) ----------- There isn't much difference between {ghot} and {nuv}, both meaning "person". Maltz did say that when these words are plural (with or without a {-pu'} suffix), ghot focuses more on the individuals making up the group while {nuv} focuses on the group as a whole. So {ghotpu'} would probably be translated as "persons" and {nuvpu'} would be translated as "people". But the rule is not hard and fast. - The verb {chagh} "drop" takes an object. If a cat keeps poking at a glass until the glass falls off the table, the proper verb is {pummoH} "cause to fall". {chagh} would not be appropriate in this case because drop implies that someone is holding on to something and then (accidentally or on purpose) lets it fall. The cat isn't holding the glass before knocking it off the table. - {bo'DIj} is the institution of the court, a judicial organization. A courtroom is a {bo'DIj pa'}; a courthouse is a {bo'DIj qach}. - {ghIpDIj} "court-martial" is a verb. The object of the verb is the person charged and subject to trial (or actually tried) by a military tribunal. The subject is whoever brought the indictment. - The difference between {'oH} and {ghaH} is the same as the difference between their plural counterparts {bIH} and {chaH}. ----------- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/QepHom2018

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The problem of the same word being both a verb and a noun
by mayqel qunenoS 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Often, while writing, I come across the problem of having to use a word which exists both as a verb and a noun, e.g. {choH} (v) change, {choH} (n) change. And the problem being, making absolutely certain that the reader will immediately understand that it is e.g. the noun that I use and not the verb, or vice versa. And recently I found the solution of adding a verb or noun suffix, depending on the situation. For example, instead of writing {qa'Daj choH} for "the change of his spirit", writing {qa'Daj choHna'} "the definite change of his spirit". Or, instead of {qa'Daj choH} for "it changes his spirit", saying {qa'Daj choHba'} "it obviously changes his spirit". Of course context could also specify. But there are times I feel, we're leaving so many things on context, to the point of assuming the reader to be some kind of psychic. ~ mayqel qunen'oS minas morgulDaq matlhabchoHchu'pu'

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noun with {-'e'} before the {... law' ... puS}
by mayqel qunenoS 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

There is the Ca'NoN phrase: {qIbDaq SuvwI''e' SoH Dun law' Hoch Dun puS} You would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy I would like to ask, with regards to the {SuvwI''e'}; does it mean "as for (a) warrior, you would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy", or does it mean "as for warriors, you would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy" ? If a noun marked with the {-'e'} is placed before a {noun A X law' noun B X puS} construction, then the number of that noun (i.e. singular or plural), has to be the same with the number of "A" or with the number of the "B" ? ~ mayqel qunen'oS qo' lucharghjaj chabmey !

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'enDeq
by Tad Stauffer 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

wa'leS Haq SIQ be'nalwI'. HuH* 'enDeqDaj lel HaqwI'. *Question for people who attended the Saarsbrücken qepHom this past weekend: According to boQwI', there are two new words for "bladder": {'enDeq} is linguistically unmarked (ie the default, such as Coke) {turmIq 'enDeq} is marked (ie modified version, such as Diet Coke) In English, the markedness for bladder words seem to be switched: "bladder" (unmarked) refers to {turmIq 'enDeq}. There's also English "gallbladder" (marked). Is {'enDeq} is actually Klingon for "gallbladder" and {HuH 'enDeq} is thus redundant? -Tad sent from my smartphone telephone

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Klingon Word of the Day: qerjIq
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, November 19, 2018 Klingon word: qerjIq Part of speech: noun Definition: fireplace Source: qep'a' 25 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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qey'Hav: Clarification?
by Michael Roney, Jr. 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Does {qey'Hav} n. vagina refer to just the actual vagina? Or does it have a broader meaning as in casual English where it is used to also refer to the vulva?

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