July 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

My list of 19 new words revisited
by Jesse Manoogian 28 Jul '17

28 Jul '17

Hi, guys. It's Andrew again. Back at the end of 2015, I appeared on this mailing list with a list of 19 words missing in Klingon. Upon your encouragement I came up with equivalents for most of them using the existent roots, but now I see that many of my conceptions on how Klingon agglutination worked were wrong. Well, I've been reading up on tlhIngan Hol -- learning more about the vocabulary, the affixes, and the rules of morphology, and I think I've got acceptable compounds and workarounds for all the words on my list now. Have a gander. be blonde: SuD (be yellow) works fine be straight (of hair): beQ (be flat) be curly: gho rur (resemble a circle) be wavy: yu'eghmey rur (resemble waves) be bald: jIb ghajbe' (to not have hair) be hazel: SuD 'ej wovbe' (be yellow/green and non-bright -- I thought "SuD 'ej Doq 'ej wovbe'" was too unwieldy) freckles: DIrvemmey (skin-mark-PL) wrinkle: bentlhegh (age-line) glasses: mIn'al'onmey (eye-glass-PL) braces: Ho'baS (tooth-metal -- it's singular -- as I understand, they say the singular "brace" in British English, so this has precedent) tattoo: DIrmIllogh (skin-picture) jeans: yopwaH ghegh (rough pants) -- and I also notice "yopwaH buq" for "pants pouch; trouser pocket" -- how about buq yopwaH for cargo pants? polo shirt: wep yor poSmoH ([sleeved] shirt with open top) tank top: be'nalmoqwI' (a calque of the English wifebeater) headphones: nachQoywI' (head-hearer . . . a calque from the German Kopfhörer) skateboard: rutlh'echlet (wheel-board) guitar: javHurDagh (six + stringed instrument) bass: javHurDagh jaQ (deep guitar) be teenage, be adolescent: nenchoH (become adult) teen, adolescent, youth, young adult: nuv nenchoH (person becoming adult) pItlh!

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] My list of 19 new words revisited
by Jesse Manoogian 28 Jul '17

28 Jul '17

André M?ller wrote: >I remember last time, some people were a bit harsh that time. But it's good >to see you back and I must say your list of words is really well thought >through. Most of the words will probably be readily understandable for most >Klingonists, except for perhaps "wifebeater". It's (I think) an English >slang term that wouldn't be literally understandable by non-English >speakers. Most will understand a person who beats their wife. I was really stumped by how to translate "tank top". If I had had a copy of _Klingon for the Galactic Traveler_ I might have known about the yIvbeH. But maybe we don't need the level of specificity in Klingon that we have in every English domain. After all, in Klingon "crocodile" and "alligator" are the same word, and in Indonesian people normally use a word meaning "citrus" for all citrus fruit. Then we have the Algonquian languages (I'm thinking specifically of one Algonquian language beginning with M) in which one word is used for all upper-body garments: dress shirt, T-shirt, jacket, tank top, turtleneck, etc. >Also note that it is somewhat of an unwritten custom to not write compound >words as one word if it's not a word from Okrandian canon. So, better use a >space, like {DIr vemmey}, (lit. 'marks of the skin'). But it's not a big >mistake or anything. I was not aware of this. OK, I'll use "DIr vemmey" and "rutlh 'echlet" and so on.

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] My list of 19 new words revisited
by Jesse Manoogian 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

Steven Boozer wrote: >FWIW we now have the noun {Su'nIm} ?raised profile, ridges, pattern (as in fingerprints, tires, shoe >tread)? from qepHom 2015. Okrand affirmed at qepHom 2009 that a single forehead ridge is a >{vIlHom}. > >To describe foreheads {QuchDu?} we use {vIl} ?be ridgy? vs. {Hab} ?be smooth?. Before {vIl} some >of us used {ghegh} ?be rough? or {tlher} ?be lumpy? (associated with food in KGT) to describe >foreheads, so I suppose these are available. > >If I saw *{qab vIl / ghegh / tlher} though, I would immediate think of those latex prosthetics that Trek >actors wear on their faces when playing aliens. <g> "Su'nIm" could be a good word for wrinkle. I'm surprised, though, that it took until 2009 for Klingon to have a word for something as quintessentially defining of Klingons as forehead ridges. There is the SF narratology term "rubber-forehead alien" for instance. Rubber-Forehead Aliens - TV Tropes

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qep'a' yIvbeHmey
by Lieven 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

peqIm! qep'a'Daq bIjeSchugh, vaj yIvbeH mIlloghmey boqon 'e' vItlhob. Do'Ha', tlhIngan Hol wIqI'Daq Hutlh 'op: http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/QepaTShirts -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghItlhwI'
by Klingon Word of the Day 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, July 27, 2017 Klingon word: ghItlhwI' Part of speech: noun Definition: stylus, writing implement, person who writes Source: KGT:p79 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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qelI'qam
by seruq 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

I've known a qelI'qam only to be roughly 2km. There are numerous corporate websites out there with hidden tlhIngan Hol web pages, and the ones that make reference to qelI'qam are using a calculation of 1 qelI'qam = about 1.6 km. If these pages were all written by the same person/team, that would explain the consistent use of the 1.6, but... where are they getting that 1.6 from? Do we have additional canon implying this?

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cheb
by seruq 26 Jul '17

26 Jul '17

Back in '99 we had difficulty trying to calculate how much a cheb is. MO was quoted as saying it was about 2.25 kg; then the BoP posted implied something closer to 2.578. Since then, have we received any additional canon that would help to calculate a cheb? Does the Monopoly game have any clues?

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qelI'qam
by seruq 26 Jul '17

26 Jul '17

I found them while doing a google search for "qelI'qam km". The urls tend to start with tlh. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 7/26/17, Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard(a)btinternet.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qelI'qam To: tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org, "seruq" <seruq(a)bellsouth.net> Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 3:33 PM How well hidden are these tlhIngan Hol web pages? How can people access these pages? ----Original message---- From : seruq(a)bellsouth.net Date : 26/07/2017 - 16:22 (GMTST) To : tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org Subject : [tlhIngan Hol] qelI'qam I've known a qelI'qam only to be roughly 2km. There are numerous corporate websites out there with hidden tlhIngan Hol web pages, and the ones that make reference to qelI'qam are using a calculation of 1 qelI'qam = about 1.6 km. If these pages were all written by the same person/team, that would explain the consistent use of the 1.6, but... where are they getting that 1.6 from? Do we have additional canon implying this?

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qep'a' transportation from ORD
by Lawrence M. Schoen 26 Jul '17

26 Jul '17

Hey, quick update: the Hampton Inn is NOT using the Wally Park shuttle this year. You still wait at Door 1, but you'll be looking for a Hampton Inn / Quality Inn shuttle.

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Klingon Word of the Day: yang
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Jul '17

26 Jul '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, July 26, 2017 Klingon word: yang Part of speech: noun Definition: image from a (rubber) stamp Source: qepHom 2015 p.19 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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