March 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

Klingon Word of the Day: mab
by qurgh＠wizage.net 06 Mar '17

06 Mar '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, March 06, 2017 Klingon word: mab Part of speech: noun Definition: agreement, contract, commitment Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: yab qoD
by qurgh＠wizage.net 06 Mar '17

06 Mar '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, March 04, 2017 Klingon word: yab qoD Part of speech: noun Definition: subconscious mind Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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how to say "toy"?
by Christa Hansberry 03 Mar '17

03 Mar '17

Is there any way to say "toy"? boQwI' didn't bring up anything. Do Klingon children not play with toys? -QISta' Enviado desde mi teléfono inalámbrico Verizon

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Klingon Word of the Day: Sol
by qurgh＠wizage.net 03 Mar '17

03 Mar '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, March 03, 2017 Klingon word: Sol Part of speech: verb Definition: quarrel Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Request for help from university student
by qurgh lungqIj 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

This morning the KLI received a message from a PhD candidate that is looking to survey Klingon speakers. If you would like to help, just head over to below link and fill it out. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeiMBtBKQXOspa38MRmi20v FFkrZLfQwODwfbm47HlWq8OBbw/viewform Qapla' qurgh

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Klingon Word of the Day: puH Duj
by qurgh＠wizage.net 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, March 02, 2017 Klingon word: puH Duj Part of speech: noun Definition: car, automobile Source: TalkNow! This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: logh
by qurgh＠wizage.net 01 Mar '17

01 Mar '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, March 01, 2017 Klingon word: logh Part of speech: noun Definition: space Source: TKD (93 KE, 154 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'e'
by qurgh＠wizage.net 01 Mar '17

01 Mar '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, March 01, 2017 Klingon word: 'e' Part of speech: vs5 Definition: topic (noun suffix on verb acting as adjective) Source: This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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-lI': intentional or not?
by SuStel 01 Mar '17

01 Mar '17

There was a discussion on Facebook about whether *-lI'* needs to be intentional progress or not. I'm curious what other list members think. The question: does the verb suffix *-lI'* imply that an agent intentionally set up an end to a process? The arguments in favor: * TKD p. 43 says "*-lI'*, on the other hand, can be used only when there is an implied goal." If something has a goal, someone must have set the process in motion toward that goal. * There are no canonical examples of *-lI'* being used where an agent hasn't set the process in motion toward the goal. * TKD p. 43 says "It is possible to consider *-lI'* a /continuous/ counterpart of *-ta',* and *-taH* a /continuous/ counterpart of *-pu'.*" The difference between *-pu'* and *-ta'* is that the latter implies intentionality, so the difference between *-taH* and *-lI'* is also that the latter implies intentionality. The arguments against: * TKD p. 42 says "Unlike *-taH,* however, *-lI'* implies that the activity has a known goal or a definite stopping point." A definite stopping point is mentioned as an alternative to a known goal, and such does not imply intentional agency. * The example of *vIlI'lI'* on TKD p. 42 says "This word implies that data are in the process of being transmitted, but that there is a finite amount of data, so there will be a definite end to the transmission." This explanation does not reference the transmitter's goal in sending data, only the known end of transmission when there is no more data. The sender may have had a goal, but the explanation this word doesn't mention that. * There are so few canonical examples of *-lI'* that lacking examples of non-intentional progress is not surprising. The arguments in favor say that a sentence like *pumlI' nagh* to refer to a stone that is falling to the ground due to, say, a landslide, is ungrammatical. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Rendered fat
by Christa Hansberry 28 Feb '17

28 Feb '17

Why? I've found the discussion helpful. -QISta' Enviado desde mi teléfono inalámbrico Verizon ----- Reply message ----- De: "SuStel" <sustel(a)trimboli.name> Fecha: mar., feb. 28, 2017 05:35 Asunto: [tlhIngan Hol] Rendered fat Para: <tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org> On 2/28/2017 12:39 AM, Ed Bailey wrote: > What it comes down to is what his thoughts are. So I very much want to > hear what he has to say about *-lu'wI'*, and anyone else's reasoning, > particularly my own, is no substitute. Then it's a bit unfair of you to argue with us about it on the list. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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