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Klingon Word of the Day: jajlo' Qa'
by Klingon Word of the Day 30 Jul '18

30 Jul '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, July 29, 2018 Klingon word: jajlo' Qa' Part of speech: noun Definition: rooster-like noisy animal (not a bird) known for making a ruckus at dawn Source: This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Is {be'joy'} canon?
by De'vID 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

I thought it was something an author made up for a novel (A. C. Crispin for "Sarek") and not from Okrand, but I've seen it in various word lists. https://hol.kag.org/a/be%2527joy%2527 -- De'vID

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Klingon Word of the Day: Sa'
by Klingon Word of the Day 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, July 27, 2018 Klingon word: Sa' Part of speech: noun Definition: general (rank) Source: TKD (107 KE, 134 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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peqIm
by Lawrence M. Schoen 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

Last week, the KLI celebrated with its 25th annual conference, aka qep'a' cha'maH vaghDIch. There was much singing, contests of vocabulary and grammar, and conversations long into the night and early morning. I believe it was the largest conference we've had thus far, with many new faces present because the language has been enjoying a renaissance this year. And so we also paused to praise and acknowledge those individuals who have contributed so significantly and been of such aid to our community. For those who were not present during qep'a', I am pleased to announce the following: In recognition of the efforts in bringing the Duolingo Klingon course into the world, and for the continuing support of this program, the KLI hereby calls into existence the Order of the Owl (lIr 'obe') and proclaims Felix Malmenbeck, Philip Newton, and Jeremy Cowan to be members, to receive special medals indicating their status as well as a formal certificate to that effect. In recognition of the work in providing proper tlhIngan Hol to CBS's Star Trek: Discovery and thereby exposing a vast audience to the sounds and grammatical patterns of the Klingon language, the KLI hereby calls into existence the Order of the Torchbearer (Sech qengwI' 'obe') and proclaims Robyn Stewart, Alan Anderson, and Lieven Litaer to be members, to receive special medals indicating their status as well as a formal certificate to that effect. This notification is being sent as an email to the six honorees, posted to the KLI's mailing list, and shared with relevant groups throughout social media. Feel free to spread it far and wide, so that all may know of the great deeds that have been done, so when next we gather for the qep'a' great songs may be song. 'angghal, tlhIngan Hol yejHaD DevwI'

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height, length, width
by De'vID 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

So apparently there's a lot of confusion about the verb {'ab}, which I learned about from the Duolingo message board, and this was discussed at the {qep'a'}. Since I wasn't there, I don't know exactly what was said, but the claim was made that {'ab} can be used to measure either the height or the length of a spaceship, and that to disambiguate, another verb (like {woch}) has to be used. It's apparently also believed by some that {'ab} always measures the longer dimension. https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/28106303 I don't believe the above is true. I think {'ab} refers unambiguously to height, {'aD} to length, and {juch} to width. Furthermore, canon shows that {'ab} can be a shorter measurement than {'aD} on the same object, specifically a spaceship. I think the confusion stems from the definition of {'ab}, which was given in a msn newsgroup message dated Oct. 22, 1997: http://klingonska.org/canon/1997-10-22-news.txt <There are two words used for length: {'aD} and {'ab}. Both of these can be translated "have a length of," but they are used somewhat differently. {'aD} is used in contrast with {juch} "have a width of" in measuring, say, a tabletop. {'ab}, on the other hand, is used for (potentially) longish, skinnyish things (for example, spears) and also for heights.> The message then goes on to give the following examples: {jav 'ujmey 'ab SuvwI'} "the warrior has a length of six ujs" (about 6'10")... This might sound a little more natural as "the warrior stands six ujs" or"the warrior is six ujs tall." {vagh 'ujmey vI'ab} "I have a length of five ujs" (about 5'8") or "I'm five ujs tall" {wej 'uj 'ab naQjej} "the spear has a length of three uj" (about 3'5") or "the spear measures three uj" or "the spear is three uj long" We also have the following examples from the Klingon Bird of Prey poster: {loSmaH jav vI' Soch loS 'uj 'ab meH} "Bridge Height: 16.28M" {HIvtaHvIS toQDuj cha'vatlh wejmaH Soch vI' vagh chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH} "Attack Formation Height: 82.75 M" {qughtaHvIS toQDuj HutmaH vI' jav wa' 'uj 'ab 'oH} "Cruise Formation Height: 31.56 M" {SaqtaHvIS toQDuj wa'vatlh loS vI' jav chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH} "Landing Formation Height: 36.46 M" On the same poster, we also have this one example of {'aD}: {wejvatlh loSmaH loS vI' vagh wej 'uj 'aD Duj} "Length: 120 M" Note that the Bird of Prey is much longer than it is tall. Nevertheless, {'aD} measures its length, and {'ab} measures its height (which varies depending on the flight mode, but is always less than its length). Though it's not given, presumably {juch} measures the wingspan. There's also this from SkyBox card 32: {wej 'ujmey 'ab 'oy'naQ.} "Painstiks are a little over one meter long." So we have the following: height: {'ab} (head to toe of person, top to bottom of starship or table, tip to other end of spear or painstik) length: {'aD} (one dimension of tabletop, fore to aft of starship) width: {juch} (other dimension of tabletop, wingspan of starship) The way I think about this is that height is always {'ab}, length is always {'aD}, and width is always {juch}. However, Klingons think of stick-like things as having height (i.e, as if they were being held upright by a person), rather than having length (as English-speakers do). I think the way Okrand gave the definition of {'ab} by putting "length" first (but only of longish, skinnyish things) is confusing. This is made worse by his examples, which says that the warrior has a length of six ujs. I think the way it should've been explained is in the other direction: that a spear or painstik is so many ujs *tall*. Nevertheless, the examples make clear that {'ab} refers to the height of a spaceship, {'aD} to its length, and {'ab} can be used even if it refers to the shorter dimension. -- De'vID

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Klingon Word of the Day: tera' peb'ot
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, July 26, 2018 Klingon word: tera' peb'ot Part of speech: noun Definition: cucumber Source: EuroTalk Talk Now Klingon This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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seeking help to translate qep'a' vocab into German
by De'vID 25 Jul '18

25 Jul '18

Lieven's on vacation. If anyone knows German and wants to send me German translations for the new vocabulary (and two new proverbs) revealed at the qep'a', it would be (1) a great way for you to learn the newly revealed info and (2) save Lieven some work when he gets back. If you use GitHub, you can make the contributions directly here: https://github.com/De7vID/klingon-assistant-data Otherwise, email me and I'll edit them in. -- De'vID

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lop pIHlu'pu'be'bogh
by SuStel 25 Jul '18

25 Jul '18

We now have the necessary vocabulary to translate the opening paragraph of one of my favorites. I've got a couple of variations. Can anybody suggest improvements? The version that doesn't rely on copulas: yav QemjIq Dab Ha'bIt. 'upbe' QemjIqvam; lambe' 'ej yIQbe'. 'olQan 'uchbe' ghargh 'e'rIn megh'an je HuH pIw je. QaDbe' je QemjIqvam; chImbe'; Do'ol luyughbe' tlhoy'. quS Soj joq Hutlhbe'. Ha'bIt QemjIq 'oH, vaj churHa'. The version using copulas, but which seems a bit pedantic to me: yav QemjIq Dab Ha'bIt. 'upbogh QemjIq lambogh 'ej yIQbogh 'oHbe'. 'olQan 'uchbe' ghargh 'e'rIn megh'an je HuH pIw je. QaDbogh QemjIq 'ej chImbogh 'oHbe' je. Do'ol luyughbe' tlhoy'. quS Soj joq Hutlhbe'. Ha'bIt QemjIq 'oH, vaj churHa'. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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Klingon Word of the Day: SaQatvelo'
by Klingon Word of the Day 25 Jul '18

25 Jul '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Klingon word: SaQatvelo' Part of speech: noun Definition: Georgia Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] New words from qep'a' cha'maH vaghDIch
by seruq 24 Jul '18

24 Jul '18

>>> On a similar note: ya'rIS "echo" is apparently a pun on Toyota car models, but the fact that it contains rIS "emit sound" hints at some in-character etymological connection. There's also the similarity of voQ "choke" and vIQ "smother, suffocate", which was probably intentional. <<< As soon as I saw ya'rIS and "echo" next to each other, my mind went for ya'rIS backwards, SIr'ay, similar to Siri. Siri and Echo.

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