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-meH with -pu'/-ta'
by mayqel qunen'oS 14 Mar '19

14 Mar '19

There is something which doesn't sit with me so well, in the simultaneous use of -meH with -pu' or -ta'. Lets say I write: {vIghro' tIQ vIje'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'} In order to buy the ancient cat, I went bankrupt. How would this be any different from writing: {vIghro' tIQ vIje'ta'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'} ? First of all, it sounds weird to say {vIje'ta'meH} "in order that I have bought"; but that aside, is there any reason to use a -pu' or -ta' on the -meH part of the sentence, if I'm to use them in the part of the sentence that comes after the -meH ? Isn't the meaning the same in either case ? ~ changan qIj

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'orghen rojmab
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Mar '19

13 Mar '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, March 13, 2019 Klingon word: 'orghen rojmab Part of speech: noun Definition: Organian Peace Treaty Source: TKD (116 KE) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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qepHom'a' 2019
by Lieven L. Litaer 13 Mar '19

13 Mar '19

Dear friends of the Klingon language, some of you might already know about our annual meeting that has been going since 2002, but still I'd like to remind the others: The next qepHom'a' is scheduled for 14 til 17 of November 2019 in Saarbrücken, Germany The attendance fee is only 25,- Euro and room rates go from 40,- to 52,- euro and include breakfast, lunch and dinner. Registration is possible until September 15, 2019 one important note: Due to the increased number of interested people, we had to limit the number of attendees. Each registered attendee will be picked randomly and informed about his possibility to attend. registration and more information on http://www.qepHom.de Use hashtag #qepHom2019 -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/QepHomSaarbrücken

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bej and na' slang
by mayqel qunen'oS 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

bej and na' slang are defined as "be sure, be definite, be positive, be certain". If I write jIbej then does this mean "I'm certain" as in "I'm sure, I have no doubt", or "I am the certain" whatever that means ? ~ changan qIj

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ghItlh and jatlh
by mayqel qunen'oS 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

Is ghItlh to be treated as jatlh, with regards to quotations and reporting things others have written ? ~ changan qIj mordor lojmIt'a' lu'elqanglu'ta'

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'e'
by Klingon Word of the Day 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, March 12, 2019 Klingon word: 'e' Part of speech: pro Definition: that (previous topic) Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Grammatical gender of a mixed group
by Daniel Dadap 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

Is there any evidence in canon of how a group composed of a mixture of speech-capable and non-speech-capable members is treated grammatically? As a simple example, if somebody asked you “puqpu' paqmey je Dalegh'a'?” would you answer (assuming you see all of them): a) chaH bIH je vIlegh b) chaH vIlegh 'ej bIH vIlegh je c) chaH vIlegh d) bIH vIlegh (a) and (b) obviously seem the safest, but in an Earth language where a group whose members have mixed grammatical gender resolves to a single grammatical gender (which might be different from the grammatical genders of its members), it would seem strange. If there’s any examples in canon of something like (c) or (d) happening, I’d be interested to know about them.

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naDev and 'el
by mayqel qunen'oS 11 Mar '19

11 Mar '19

naDev bI'elpa' or naDev Da'elpa' for "before you enter here ?" ~ changan qIj

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A long document
by Daniel Dadap 11 Mar '19

11 Mar '19

Would a long body of text (be it a book, a letter, Grandma’s famous cookie recipe, etc.) be {nI'}, because it takes a long time to read it out loud, or {tIq}, because it occupies a long length of whatever medium it’s imprinted on? My instinct is {nI'}, but I’ve learned not to trust my instinct.

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puvlu'meH nger, pumlu'meH He ghap
by Will Martin 11 Mar '19

11 Mar '19

[qatlh mu’ <<qelI’qam>> Hutlh boQwI’?] https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Kellicam qelI’qam ‘Ivvo' QujmeH moQ yIchagh. qaS nuq? pumba’. Do ‘oH nuq? tlham chut pabnIS moQ. chung. moQ Da’uchHa’choH, pagh juv Do. qaSpu’DI’ wa’ lup 3.1415656195 ‘uj pumpu’. tlhoS chungtaH… pumtaHvIS, moQ bIngDaq moQ Hevo’ muD SIp vIHnISmoH moQ. chungnIS SIpvam. chungmo’ jeDchoH; ‘ughchoH. chungtaH moQ, ‘ach loQ nupchoH chungtaHghachvam. chungtaHvIS moQ, nup chungtaHghachvam. jaSHa’ ngI’DI' moQ, SIp je, chungbe’ moQ. wa’ Do Suq. wa’ Do vIHtaH. [Terminal Velocity] — Do vuSlu'pu’bogh chav moQ. chIch QuQ Hutlhbogh muD Duj yIchagh. tera’Daq muD Duj ghIch yIQeq. qaS nuq? pumba’. Do ‘oH nuq? pumchoHDI’, moQ rur muDDuj, ‘ach jaS jeDchoH muD Duj. tel bIng muD jeD law’ tel Dung muD jeD puS. muD Duj tlhuQDaq telHom DungDaq jeDchoH muD. telHom Dung muD jeD law’ telHom bIng muD jeD puS. lolchoH muD Duj. muD Duj ghIch peplu’. muD Duj tlhuQ pepHa’lu’. qughDo SuqDI' muD Duj, Do vuSlu’pu’bogh chavpu’bogh moQ’e’ rur, ‘ach pumbe’. puv. QIt pum. nom puv. QuQ chellu’chugh, pumbe’chu’laH muD Duj. toSlaH. The angle of incidence of the wing makes the leading edge higher than the trailing edge, while the angle of incidence of the horizontal stabilizer in the tail makes the leading edge lower than the trailing edge, so oncoming relative wind raises the wing and lowers the tail until flight attitude in a glider is nearly level with the horizon as the glider reaches Terminal Velocity. Properly trimmed, the pilot does nothing. The glider WANTS to fly at cruising attitude and cruising speed. That’s a better description of the physics of flight than was offered me in High School Physics and in the pilot training materials I’ve seen. Those models (the stupid idea that the Bernoulli Effect creates lift, coupled with the weird cross showing Lift vs. Gravity and Thrust vs. Drag fail to explain how gliders fly or how airplanes fly inverted (with the pilots pushing the stick waaaaay forward to sustain flight, using the elevators to counteract the angle of incidence of the wing and horizontal stabilizers). I won’t try to explain stalls and spins in Klingon. I could, but jeez. This was hard enough. charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.

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