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noun-noun constructions with "days ago"
by mayqel qunen'oS 04 May '20

04 May '20

Could we say something like the following? {muQuchmoHpu' cha'Hu' wanI'mey} the events of the day before yesterday made me happy ~ mayqel qunen'oS

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Klingon Word of the Day: mung
by Klingon Word of the Day 03 May '20

03 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, May 03, 2020 Klingon word: mung Part of speech: noun Definition: origin Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: jaw
by Klingon Word of the Day 02 May '20

02 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, May 02, 2020 Klingon word: jaw Part of speech: verb Definition: chat Source: TKD (90 KE, 123 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: qech
by Klingon Word of the Day 01 May '20

01 May '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, May 01, 2020 Klingon word: qech Part of speech: noun Definition: idea Source: TKD (101 KE, 138 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] If pIqaD became Ca'Non..
by Lieven L. Litaer 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Am 30.04.2020 um 11:15 schrieb Andrew Mac: > It would be great to be able to visualize how a dictionary used by the > Klingons would be alphabetized. I wonder what the alphabetical order is > in Klingon. I like the request for Klingon alphabetical order at the > chabal page, and don’t understand why so many people are downvoting it. I guess because that's not something useful to have. I mean, what would it change? What's the purpose of having that? Next, we live in a world of parallel universes regarding the Klingon writing system, and they overlap. - TKD says "we know nothing about the writing system, and we use the English alphabetical order for convenience". - KLI says "here's a suggestion" and everybody uses it, but it's not canon - DSC uses those same letters, making them Star Trek canon. - nitpickers say that those letters are never canonically explained, so they could mean anything. So depending on what game we play, reading Klingon is "very hard" (Scotty, ST4) or it's a simply sound-to-character mapping. Where I'm pointing to is that I believe that Okrand intentionally keeps avoiding saying anything about the alphabet, because he first wrote in TKD that we do not know about it. Of course, he "accepts" what we are using, but that does not make it canon. If he would provide a Klingon alphabetical order, he would have to either base it on our used KLI pIqaD (thus making it "okrandian" canon), or he would need to make up something entirely different — and that could be anything (and knowing him, it would be something very irregularly complicated). -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/PIqaD

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If pIqaD became Ca'Non..
by mayqel qunen'oS 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

I just thought of something interesting.. If pIqaD ever became Ca'Non, with the usual community-approved way by which things become Ca'Non, then perhaps that would mean that.. Klingon has place for no other punctuation except periods and commas, since these are the only punctuation signs for which there are pIqaD symbols. ~ mayqel qunen'oS

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Klingon Word of the Day: mIgh
by Klingon Word of the Day 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, April 30, 2020 Klingon word: mIgh Part of speech: verb Definition: be evil Source: TKD (94 KE, 131 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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thoughts on the -be'pu' vs -pu'be'
by mayqel qunen'oS 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

It's not that I get off on talking about aspect.. In fact, discussions on aspect are for me the same thing as time travel was for janeway on voyager; it's something I don't want to get caught up in.. But as janeway finally *had* to time travel, I always find myself being caught up in the mess of aspect. There's the tkd Ca'Non example of {vIta'pu'be'} for "I didn't do it". The way I understand the {vIta'pu'be'} is that it goes like: {vIta'pu'}-be'. Because that way, the meaning goes "I have done it"-not. On the other hand, if we analyzed it as {vIta'}-pu'be', then it would mean that my doing it hasn't been completed, meaning either that my doing it has been interrupted, or that at the moment the sentence is uttered my doing it still takes place, and I'm actually literally saying "it's not yet completed whatever it is I'm trying to accomplish". So, the only way the {vIta'pu'be'} can mean "I didn't do it", is if the {-be'} is interpreted as to be acting on the entire {vIta'pu'}. Alternatively, perhaps we could say {vIta'be'pu'}, which would mean that "the event of my not doing it is completed". I can't say I see anything wrong with that. Did you do it yesterday ? Asks one. {vIta'be'pu'} replies the other i.e. "I didn't do it, and now (or then) my not doing it is completed". So, the question arises.. If the {vIta'pu'}-be' is roughly the same with the {vIta'be'pu'}, then why don't we always place the {-be'} on the end of the word allowing it to act on the sum of verb+suffixes which precede it ? And I believe, that the answer is "because there are cases where the thing which we need to negate is not the entire verb+prefixes, but just one of the preceding prefixes". Assume we need to say "I have begun not to need cherish you". If we write {qaQejnISchoHbe'pu'} then likely it means "I haven't begun to need to cherish you". I can't see a way in which one could apply the {-be'} only to the {-nIS}. To express the meaning of "I have begun not to need cherish you" we would need to write {qaQejnISbe'choHpu'}. So, in verb where the {-pu'} and the {-be'} coexist, we can't always be placing the {-be'} after the {-pu'}.. So, I really can't understand why instead of writing {vIta'pu'be'} and expecting the reader to take the {-be'} and apply it to the entire word which precedes it, why we can't just write {vIta'be'pu'} which is clearer and doesn't leave room for misinterpretation. Aspect is a jay' nightmare.. ~ mayqel qunen'oS the ancient cat will talk before I will

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] If pIqaD became Ca'Non..
by Andrew Mac 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

It would be great to be able to visualize how a dictionary used by the Klingons would be alphabetized. I wonder what the alphabetical order is in Klingon. I like the request for Klingon alphabetical order at the chabal page, and don’t understand why so many people are downvoting it.

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] If pIqaD became Ca'Non..
by Andrew Mac 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

It would be great to be able to visualize how a dictionary used by the Klingons would be alphabetized. I wonder what the alphabetical order is in Klingon. I like the request for Klingon alphabetical order at the chabal page, and don’t understand why so many people are downvoting it.

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