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Klingon Word of the Day: Sutra'ber naHmey
by Klingon Word of the Day 18 Feb '21

18 Feb '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, February 18, 2021 Klingon word: Sutra'ber naHmey Part of speech: noun Definition: strawberries Source: TalkNow - Learn Klingon!, revealed 30 September 2011 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: waS
by Klingon Word of the Day 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, February 17, 2021 Klingon word: waS Part of speech: verb Definition: wrong, awry Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: boS
by Klingon Word of the Day 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 16, 2021 Klingon word: boS Part of speech: verb Definition: collect Source: TKD (81 KE, 125 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Why the half-measure of 'e' neHbe' vavoy?
by mayqel qunen'oS 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

By saying {'e' neHbe' vavoy} 'a'Setbur clearly took a dump on the rules.. ..which is pretty fine, because hey, who doesn't enjoy giving the finger to the rules every once in a while. But 'a'Setbur, honey, if you're gonna break the rules, then damn it do it well. No half-ass measures. No holding back. Go all the way; don't just say {'e' neHbe' vavoy}; say {'e' neHpu'be' vavoy}. ~ Dana'an klingon bingon all the same

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law' puS with the -taHvIS and type-9 clauses preceding each element
by Will Martin 16 Feb '21

16 Feb '21

You’ve missed my point. Analysis of a Replacement Proverb is probably futile because it may very well be gibberish that lost its meaning thousands of years ago. We can process the words, shoving them through the algorithm of translation and not actually translate the meaning into anything… meaningful. I was trying to come up with something meaningful. My bad. I retract my earlier analysis, since I was leaning in toward something meaningful instead of leaning in toward something literal. It could very well mean, “On another person’s face [the fire is hottest.” And we might not really understand what that means, being perhaps a reference to a story long ago forgotten. In English, when an atheist hears someone sneeze, they might very well say, “Bless you,” out of habit/courtesy or “Ga-Zoon-Height”, even if they don’t know German. This might be like that. Note that we’re not really told that {X Q law’ X Hoch puS} means X is "Q-er than everything.” We’re told that it means “X is Q-est.” It may look like a comparative, but it’s actually a superlative. It’s not really “The fire is hotter than everything.” It’s “The fire is hottest.” It looks like it’s saying, “The fire is hotter than everything,” but that’s the logical/literal translation, as opposed to a more accurate translation of what we are told it means in Klingon. … Not that it makes TOO much difference. charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’. > On Feb 13, 2021, at 3:25 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin(a)gmail.com <mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > TL;DR: You've shown that in other known canon instances of the comparative (except for {Qam[taH]vIS...}), the context in front applies to the entire comparative. Your own analysis of your interpretation of the proverb {reH latlh qabDaq qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS}, however, differs from your analysis of the other sentences, and actually applies {latlh qabDaq} only to the first half. (The only way the fire on someone else's face could be being compared to things not on that face is if {Hoch} is outside the scope of {latlh qabDaq}.) You're holding two mutually incompatible beliefs. Your explanation of the grammar of the other sentences differs from your explanation of this one, and so a reasonable conclusion is that this sentence is an exception to the others. > TL;CR (Too Long; Can’t Resend). The list rejected my reply because adding my short messaget to your long one exceeded the technical limit for a message sent to the list. So, you can look at earlier messages in the thread to find what I was responding to.

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ordinals and be-verbs
by mayqel qunen'oS 16 Feb '21

16 Feb '21

I want to say "the brave first travelers of space". logh ve'wI'pu' wa'DIch yoH logh ve'wI'pu' yoH wa'DIch yoHbogh logh ve'wI'pu' wa'DIch Which of the previous three options is/are the correct one/ones? According to tkd "Ordinal numbers follow the noun", however it's not clarified what we need to do, when we need to apply an ordinal to a noun with an adjective. ~ Dana'an attack or be slaves

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is the choice between -Daq and -vaD influenced by the way something is given?
by mayqel qunen'oS 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

Read the following: yaSvaD taj vInob I give the knife to the officer yaSvaD taj vIqem I give the knife to the officer by bringing it to him yaSvaD taj vIngeH I give the knife to the officer by sending it to him So when giving something to someone we use the {-vaD} regardless whether we bring it to him, or send it to him. But would we use the {-vaD} too even if we threw the knife to him? Ha'DIbaHvaD chuvmey vIvo' I give the leftovers to the animal by throwing them to it Would this sentence be correct, or does the {vo'} change something, thus making the choice of {-vaD} wrong? I don't see any reason for the choice between {-Daq} and {-vaD} to be influenced by the way something is given, but I'd like to verify this. ~ Dana'an guess who's coming to dinner

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law' puS with the -taHvIS and type-9 clauses preceding each element
by mayqel qunen'oS 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

There's the Ca'Non sentence: {QamvIS Hagh qaq law' torvIS yIn qaq puS}. Based on the above could we write something like the following? Suvlu'taHvIS batlh potlh law' yInlu'taHvIS tlhuH potlh puS honor while fighting is more important than breath while living or maybe even: SuvchoHlu'DI' batlh potlh law' yInchoHlu'DI' tlhuH potlh puS as soon as someone begins to fight honor is more important than breath as soon he begins to live Based on the Ca'Non {QamvIS Hagh qaq law' torvIS yIn qaq puS}, could I construct sentences as the above, or is the QamvIS Hegh.. some kind of "maltz-said-so-special-phrase-so-shut-up-and-don't-generalize" case? ~ Dana'an indeed, death while standing is preferable to life while kneeling

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Klingon Word of the Day: wam
by Klingon Word of the Day 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, February 15, 2021 Klingon word: wam Part of speech: verb Definition: hunt, fish Source: TKD (113 KE, 137 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: Suv
by Klingon Word of the Day 14 Feb '21

14 Feb '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, February 14, 2021 Klingon word: Suv Part of speech: verb Definition: fight Source: TKD (108 KE, 133 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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