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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: qo'la' 'awje'
by Noel BA 28 Dec '21

28 Dec '21

Hi mayqel. I saw your posts on the KLI mailing list. I think I might agree with you. I definitely agree we should be sticking to Okrand’s Klingon and canon Klingon and I am also concerned with where things will be going when he is gone. Would you mind to share with me the hard truths they don’t like to hear? Maybe I will agree about that too. I promise not to be offended by anything you say. Αυχαριστο Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

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Klingon Word of the Day: ruch
by Klingon Word of the Day 27 Dec '21

27 Dec '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, December 27, 2021 Klingon word: ruch Part of speech: verb Definition: proceed, go ahead, do it Source: ADD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: yaS cha'DIch
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Dec '21

26 Dec '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, December 26, 2021 Klingon word: yaS cha'DIch Part of speech: noun Definition: second officer Source: This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: Sogh
by Klingon Word of the Day 25 Dec '21

25 Dec '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, December 25, 2021 Klingon word: Sogh Part of speech: noun Definition: lieutenant Source: TKD-A (184 KE, 189 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghIb
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Dec '21

23 Dec '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, December 23, 2021 Klingon word: ghIb Part of speech: verb Definition: consent Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: mu'mey Doy'
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Dec '21

22 Dec '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, December 22, 2021 Klingon word: mu'mey Doy' Part of speech: noun Definition: tired words (used to refer to the language used by older Klingons) Source: This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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hard truths about the future
by Iikka Hauhio 21 Dec '21

21 Dec '21

De'vID wrote: > While Maltz-is-living-in-Okrand's-basement is a cute joke, we don't really > *need* the fiction of Maltz. If a new Star Trek movie or show came out with > new Klingon words, and the person who worked on it told us what they meant, > what does it matter whether or not they said that the information came > through Maltz? Okrand himself hasn't consistently used the Maltz backstory > when revealing new information. I think that the fiction of Maltz is rather important. No living language would have all speakers agreeing to what is correct and what is not. If we want to maintain the fiction that Klingon is a living language with multiple native speakers, we must agree on which of those speakers decide the rules of the language. Okrand could have said that he repeats rules that a Klingon Language Authority on Kronos has published, or what Klingon/Federation scientists have decided (sometimes he actually does refer to Federation linguists, but most of time not). Instead, he took the approach of having one single individual whose language we study. I like this approach. When Maltz says that some phrases sound bad, or are inappropriate, etc., they are opinions of that individual. Not some recommendations of a Klingon language committee on Kronos or hypotheses of linguists. They are real opinions of a "real" individual, Maltz, using a living language. SuStel wrote: > It will depend, rather, on how believably the > fictional reality of Klingon can be maintained in its new context. If > Okrand just says, "Maltz has decided to move to Joe's basement, so Joe > gets to report new Klingon words now" or some such statement, I would > find that ham-handed at best. Now, if we think about the future of Klingon, I wouldn't want Maltz to move to someone else's basement. Instead, I would like the new develper of Klingon to have their own source of information, be it another captured Klingon, a contact on Kronos or a corpus of Klingon texts intercepted from subspace communication. That way, if the new developer says something that contradicts Okrand, we can maintain the fiction that both Okrand and the new developer are right: their captured Klingons just disagree on how the language works. Maybe Maltz thinks that something is inappropriate, but the new Klingon thinks it's cool. Maybe Maltz doesn't know a word for a thing, but the new Klingon has happened to hear such a word. And so on. SuStel wrote: > If authority is granted to a committee to > invent new Klingon words, that would be even worse, since I can imagine > no good way in which a committee of human beings could be connected with > reporting actual Klingon from the fictional universe. I would actually > find it more satisfying to learn that our window into the secondary > world has closed, leaving our canon of Klingon frozen at the current > state, because that would be most believable. But it would be disappointing. If we had a committee, it wouldn't be Okrand's Klingon anymore, so it would be disappointing. No new Klingon at all would be disappointing. I have seen so many fights over what is good Klingon that I don't know anyone I could trust with the power to decide everything. So it'd have to be a committee. I see no satisfying solution. What I least want is Paramount/CBS to take over. I don't want those people to have anything more to do with Klingon. They didn't use Klingon when they made good television series, and now that they know Klingon they make bad television series. After their Axanar lawsuit, I'd like to keep the language as far from them as possible. Iikka "fergusq" Hauhio

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Klingon Word of the Day: vagh
by Klingon Word of the Day 21 Dec '21

21 Dec '21

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, December 21, 2021 Klingon word: vagh Part of speech: num Definition: five Source: TKD (112 KE, 133 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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jIlujpu' jIH'e'
by De'vID 21 Dec '21

21 Dec '21

On TKD p. 29, in the example for {-'e'}, there's the sentence {lujpu' jIH'e'}, which looks like it's missing a prefix {jI-}. Dr. Okrand confirmed to me that this is a typo. He mentioned this in passing while we were going through the paq'batlh, as {jIlujpu'} appears on p. 71. This sentence happened to come up in a discussion on Discord, so I thought I'd mention this fact here for posterity. I think everyone already knew it was an error, anyway. (Also, for anyone wondering about the status of the paq'batlh 2ed, I've done as much as I can in making the revisions that Dr. Okrand had clear ideas about, and the rest is up to Dr. Okrand to make a few final decisions and the publishers to incorporate the edits. So it's out of my hands now. I have no ideas about any publication date.) -- De'vID

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veH tIn wI'el maH'e' !
by Steven Boozer 20 Dec '21

20 Dec '21

FYI: https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/kind-barrier-galaxys-center-scientists-find/ See also: https://www.space.com/strange-radio-source-milky-way-center TREK TRIVIA: At the center of our galaxy the planet {QI'tu'} is surrounded by the Great Barrier (veH tIn), an immense energy field (HoSchem) which imprisons the God-Being (ST5). Later an "enhanced" Reginald Barclay took the Enterprise-D to the center of the galaxy to visit the Cytherians, some 30,000 light years away. A large glowing cloud was visible in the distance, possibly the Great Barrier. (TNG "The Nth Degree") -- Voragh, Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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