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{je} "too" applying to the adverb
by mayqel qunen'oS 04 Apr '22

04 Apr '22

chalqachDaq bIQaDbe' je even in a tower you are not safe I think this sentence shows that the {je} "too" *can* indeed refer to the type-5'ed noun of the sentence too. I know that the translation is given as "even.." instead of "at a tower you aren't safe too", but obviously this is just a matter of choice of words. The only way I can understand it is "in a tower you aren't safe too", i.e. "among the various places where you aren't safe, is a tower too". So perhaps it is possible to say: ngugh bIpujpu' DaH bIpuj je You were weak then You're weak now too Of course one can argue that in the Ca'Non sentence we have a type-5'ed noun and not an adverb, but I think that if this use of {je} "too" applies for type-5'ed nouns, then chances are that it applies too for any non-ovs crap placed at the beginning of the sentence, i.e. adverbs and time stamps. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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{So'} and {-'egh} is there a difference between {jISo'} and {jISo''egh}
by mayqel qunen'oS 04 Apr '22

04 Apr '22

In Greek if we want to say "the officer is hiding in the engine room", we'll say "the officer is hiding in the engine room". But I've noticed in English one could or maybe even *would* say "the officer is hiding himself in the engine room". And this confuses me. As Americans, do you see/feel any difference between saying "the officer is hiding in the engine room" and "the officer is hiding himself in the engine room?" Because I wonder, which of the two I should say: {jonta' pa'Daq So' yaS} or {jonta' pa'Daq So''egh yaS}? -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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the "epithets of zeus" is completed
by mayqel qunen'oS 03 Apr '22

03 Apr '22

e The "hellenic gods - epithets of gods - zeus part 11" concludes the translation of the epithets of zeus. The entire text can be found at: https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/zeus-pongmey-chadich/ Of course no one is ever going to read it, but what the hell? It took me a lot of time to write it so I'll post the link anyway. Next will be the epithets of Hera the queen of the gods. t "hellenic gods - epithets of gods - zeus part 11" QIn vIngeHpu'DI', Hoch zeus pongmey cha'DIch vISamlaHpu'bogh vImughpu'. 'Internet DaqvamDaq Hoch pongmeyvam cha'DIch tu'lu': https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/zeus-pongmey-chadich/ 'Internet Daqvam laD pagh net pIHbej, 'a qatlh jISaHnIS jay'? Hochvam vImughtaHvIS, tlhoy jIDoy'choHpu', vaj naDev 'Internet Daqvam vIngeH, 'ej jISaHbe'. hera Qunpu' voDleH pong cha'DIch bIH pong cha'DIch veb'e' vImughbogh. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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hellenic gods - epithets of gods - zeus part 11
by mayqel qunen'oS 03 Apr '22

03 Apr '22

*sabazius*: *zeus* *phrygia* pong cha’DIch. *dionysus* pong ‘oH *sabazius*‘e’, ‘ach *orpheus* bom loSmaH chorghDaq *zeus* ghaH *sabazius*‘e’. mu’tlhegh yamtaw wa’Daq ghaHvaD *kronos* puqloD ponglu’, ‘ej yamtaw mu’tlhegh cha’Daq yamtaw mu’tlhegh wejDaq je *sabazius* bopbogh De’ ‘otHa’lu’taHvIS, SovmoHlu’: >’uS nev’obDajDaq *dionysus* lanpu’ *sabazius, *‘ej ghIq nev’obDaj QISpu’ *sabazius.*< vaj bomvamDaq *zeus* ghaH *sabazius’*e’; Qun pIm ghaHlaHbe’. *sceptuchus:* voDleH naQ ‘uchbogh vay’. *scotitas:* Hurghbogh vay’, tlhoDbogh vay’. *seisichthon: *tera’ QommoHbogh vay’. *semaleus: *‘otHa’bogh vay’ nobwI’. *sosepolis: *veng toDwI’. *soter: *toDwI’, tlhabmoHwI’. vanpu’DI’ leng, ‘ej qaStaHvIS lengvam, nuv luQanlu’taH, *zeus* *soter*vaD* ‘*anmoH nuvpu’. pIj bIQ’a’ verghmeyDaq *zeus* *soter* chIrghmey tu’lu’pu’ (Sarvam chIrgh ‘oH *piraeus* *zeus* chIrgh’e’). HIvje’ wejDIch *wine*vaD *zeus* *soter* *wine* Damlu’, ‘ej *wine*vam tlhutlhchugh vay’, Do’choH net Har, vaj tagha’ {wejDIch}vaD {-DIch} Do’ DamchoHlu’pu’; *zeus*vaD toDwI’ wejDIch ponglu’ je. *argos*Daq *troezene*Daq *laconia*Daq *messene*Daq *mantineia*Daq *megalopolis*Daq je *zeus* pongvam cha’DIch lolu’pu’ je, ‘ej *zeus* *soter*vaD HochvaD lu’anmoHlu’bogh *soteria* luponglu’. ‘ach latlh Qunpu’ pong cha’DIch ‘oH je *soter*‘e’; *helios* *bacchus* je pong cha’DIch ‘oH je. *steropegeretes: *rawbogh vay’, pe’bIl vI’moHbogh vay’. *sthenius/sthenios:* HoSghajwI’, HoSchoHmoHwI’, Dunqu’wI’. *hermione*Daq Sumpu’ *zeus* *sthenius* ‘anmoHmeH qachHom; nagh qoDDaq ‘anmoHmeH qachvam chenmoHlu’pu’. pa’ yanDaj waqmeyDaj je So’pu’ *aegeus*, ‘ej yanvam waqmeyvam je’ Sampu’ *theseus*, naghvam peppu’DI’. *stratius/stratios:* noH bopbogh vay’, mangghommey bopbogh vay’. *zeus* pong cha’DIch ‘oH pongvam cha’DIch’e’, ‘ach *ares *pong cha’DIch ‘oH je. *synestius: *qerjIq ‘avwI’. *teleius: *povbogh vay’, HoSghajchu’bogh vay’. *telesiurgus:* povchoHmoHwI’, naQchoHmoHwI’. *temenites:* SepDaq ‘op Daq le’ tu’lu’; Daqvam luQanlu’, ‘ej QunvaD neH Daqvam lulo’lu’. wa’ Daqvam ponglu’meH, “*temenos*” mu’ lo’lu’, vaj Daqvam Qun Del *temenites. amorgos *‘ambayDaq *zeus* pongvam cha’DIch lo’lu’pu’ je. *themistius: *ruv ‘avbogh ‘ej Qanbogh vay’. *theus agathus:* Qun QaQ. *triophthalmus:* wej mIn Qun. chalmey puHmey bIQ’a’mey je che’ *zeus *‘e’ chIw pongvam cha’DIch. wej mInvaD wej loDnI’ (*zeus poseidon plouton* je) luDamlu’ ‘e’ chIw je. *tropaeuchus: *ghaHvaD tevmey Suqpu’bogh charghwI’pu’ lunoblu’. *tropaeus: *choHbogh vay’, wanI’mey choHbogh vay’, vaj yay nobbogh vay’. *trophonius:** boeotia*Daq *lebadeia*Daq Qun ‘otHa’wI’ tu’lu’pu’, ‘ej ‘otHa’wI’vam bop pongvam cha’DIch. ‘otHa’wI’vam qeS SuqmeH vay’, DIS jaQDaq ghIrpu’. *zeus chthonius*, Sub ghap ghaH *trophohnios*‘e’; DuH lugh Sovchu’be’ vay’, ghItlhmey HaDtaHvIS. *delphi* Qun lulIgh quv chenmoHpu’ vay’; *trophohnios* ghaH vay’vam’e’ net Dam. *uranius:* chalmey DabwI’. *xenius/xenios:* meb, SuchwI’; vaj mebpu’/SuchwI’pu’ Qanbogh Qun ghaH *zeus*‘e’. mebpu’vaD/SuchwI’pu’vaD varHa’ juH ghajwI’, ‘ej chaHvaD jup Da; ghu’vam Qun ghaH *zeus xenius*‘e’, ‘ej juH ghajwI’ DI’onmeyvam chIw. pongvam cha’DIch be’ Sar tu’lu’ je, “*xenia*“‘oH pongvam cha’DIch be’ Sar’e’, ‘ej wa’ *athena *pong cha’DIch ‘oH. vaj DI’onmey Delbogh pongvam cha’DIch chIw je *athena*. *ypsizygus:* Daq jenDaq ‘oHtaH quS’a’Daj’e’; pa’ ba’. *zas:* qo’ mung lut qonpu’ *syros* ‘ambay *pherecydes *vIt nejwI’*, *‘ej lutDajDaq *zeus*vaD *zas* pong. DaHjaj lutvam HochHom SamlaHbe’ vay’, ‘ach wej qo’ bI’reS ghanroq’a’ Del qo’ mung lutvam: *zas*, *chthonie* (tera’), *chronos* (poH) je. *zeus*vaD *dis*, *zin*, *din*, *zis* je pong je *pherecydes *‘e’ SovmoH *herodian*. latlh pongmey lo’ je *pherecydes *‘e’ SovmoH je *herodian.* *zygius/zygia/zugios/zugia:** zeus* pong cha’DIch ‘oH *zygius*‘e’/*zugios*‘e’, ‘ej *hera* pong cha’DIch ‘oH *zygia*‘e’/*zugia*‘e’. tlhogh lurang *zeus hera* je ‘e’ luDel pongvam cha’DIch. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'an
by Klingon Word of the Day 01 Apr '22

01 Apr '22

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, April 01, 2022 Klingon word: 'an Part of speech: verb Definition: be a waste Source: qep'a' 25 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: weq
by Klingon Word of the Day 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, March 31, 2022 Klingon word: weq Part of speech: verb Definition: hit (percussion instrument) with palm Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: yuv
by Klingon Word of the Day 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, March 30, 2022 Klingon word: yuv Part of speech: verb Definition: push Source: TKD (115 KE, 148 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghu'lIS
by Klingon Word of the Day 29 Mar '22

29 Mar '22

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, March 29, 2022 Klingon word: ghu'lIS Part of speech: noun Definition: item in a list Source: Email from De'vID This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: rugh
by Klingon Word of the Day 28 Mar '22

28 Mar '22

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, March 26, 2022 Klingon word: rugh Part of speech: noun Definition: antimatter Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: tera' tlhuH rop
by Klingon Word of the Day 28 Mar '22

28 Mar '22

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, March 28, 2022 Klingon word: tera' tlhuH rop Part of speech: noun Definition: common cold Source: qep'a' 27 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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