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Klingon Word of the Day: Qoy'
by Klingon Word of the Day 08 Aug '23

08 Aug '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, August 08, 2023 Klingon word: Qoy' Part of speech: verb Definition: spill Source: qepHom 2018 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingonaase in Klingon
by James Landau 07 Aug '23

07 Aug '23

I expected that there would be a tlhIngan Hol word for "Klingonaase" because Klingonaase is a Klingon thing. Will Martin said that Klingonaase and tlhIngan Hol were really two different universes; that was news to me. My understanding of the matter, up to the point I asked this question, was more like Steven Boozer's explanation; that some Klingons spoke tlhIngan Hol, and some Klingons spoke Klingonaase, and there were a bunch of other Klingon-spoken languages, too, with the prestige dialect shifting (kathenodialectically?) with each new emperor and his/her dynasty. From what I understood, Klingonaase was the prestige dialect before tlhIngan Hol was. With all these new Klingon names for Terran languages (like "Breton" and "Gujarati"), I thought Klingon could at least use a few more names for /other/ languages of Kronos. >Message: 3>Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 13:04:54 +0200 >From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin(a)gmail.com> >To: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org> >Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingonaase in Klingon >>On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 10:40?AM James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol < >tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org> wrote: > >> It just hit me: Why is there no tlhIngan Hol word for the Klingonaase >> language? >> > >mu'vam tu'lu' qatlh 'e' DapIH?

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Klingon Word of the Day: bach
by Klingon Word of the Day 07 Aug '23

07 Aug '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, August 07, 2023 Klingon word: bach Part of speech: verb Definition: shoot Source: TKD (80 KE, 152 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: maHnaD
by Klingon Word of the Day 07 Aug '23

07 Aug '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, August 05, 2023 Klingon word: maHnaD Part of speech: noun Definition: protein Source: qep'a' 27 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: wIlle'
by Klingon Word of the Day 06 Aug '23

06 Aug '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, August 06, 2023 Klingon word: wIlle' Part of speech: noun Definition: joint Source: qep'a' 26 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Three questions about the *paq'batlh*
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 05 Aug '23

05 Aug '23

De'vID: >> So a way of forcing the meaning *on the ship* and *in the room* could be adding a pronoun or a noun?: >> *DujDaq 'oH ghoStaH* - It is approaching it on the ship. >> *pa'Daq vogh yIjaH* - Go somewhere in the room! > Yes. In these cases, there's an explicit (direct) object, so the noun with {-Daq} is something else. Thank you for your answer! By the way: I just realised that *DujDaq 'oH ghoStaH* can also mean *It's going along it on / to the ship*, depending on the context.

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Three questions about the *paq'batlh*
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 05 Aug '23

05 Aug '23

1. ghe'tor 'el nuv qoj ghe'tor mej ghaH 'e' tu'be'chugh neH veqlargh ghe'torvo' cheghlaH nuvvam (paq'yav 11, 10-12) Is it correct to use *-chugh neH* with the meaning *only if*? Obviously, it isn't the same as the normal meaning of *neH* with verbs (*just / merely*). And if it isn't correct, how can we render the meaning *only if*? 2. ghe'tor lojmIt'a'Daq 'Iw bIQtIq ghoS naDevvo' chegh pagh (paq'raD Prologue, 22-24) In *boQwI'* we read about *ghoS*: /This can mean either *approach* or *go away from* depending on the presence of nouns with the suffixes *-Daq* and *-vo'*. The way to use *ghoS* and other verbs of movement are described in HQ 7.4[2]. See *jaH* for details./ And in the entry *jaH*: /If the verb prefix indicates an object, then the subject is going to a destination associated with the object, which may be marked with *-Daq*. If the verb prefix indicates no object, then the destination is unspecified. In that case, a noun marked with *-Daq* indicates the location where the *going* is taking place./ The problem for me is that we have a noun phrase with *-Daq* (*ghe'tor lojmIt'a'Daq*), an object without *-Daq* (*'Iw bIQtIq*) and a verb in third person singular (with the null prefix). Is it possible that a verb of movement has a noun phrase with *-Daq* *AND* an object (with or without *-Daq*)? But then I would understand something like: He approches the river of blood and this movement happens at (the area of) the Gre'thor gates, which doesn't make much sense. I would have expected it the other way around (approching the gates, moving in the river). I just can't understand how grammar is working here. Or am I missing something? 3. ghe’tor lojmIt lughoS Heghpu’bogh nuvpu’ qa’pu’ chen wej tlheghmey (paq'raD 1, 25-27) Does *wej tlheghmey* mean *lines of three* (like the English text says), *three lines* or both (so that the phrase is ambiguous)? Thank you for your help!

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*-Daq* / *-vo'* - Three questions about the *paq'batlh*
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 04 Aug '23

04 Aug '23

I have a question regarding something that charghwI' wrote: > {-vo’} is similar to {-Daq} in terms of providing context, except that it gives you a direction, not a location. Many people misunderstand {-vo’} and {-Daq} and think they are both directions; one is from and the other is towards, but these suffixes are not really opposites because {-Daq} is not a direction. It’s a location. {-vo’} is a direction, not a location. > (...) > {vengDaq taw vIghoS} means “I’m traveling along a road in the city.” It does not mean “I’m traveling along a road toward the city.” “Toward the city” is a direction, not a location. If you want to indicate that you are going toward the city, you are using the wrong verb. {taw vIghoS. veng vIjaH}. I'm sorry but I don't think I'm getting the point here. I thought *-Daq* expresses a location or a destination depending on context. De'vID and SuStel agreed, if I've understood them well, that the sentence *vengDaq taw vIghoS* can be translated *I go along the road in the city* (*vengDaq* expressing a location where something happens) or *I go along the road toward the city* (*vengDaq* expressing a destination where I'm moving to). SuStel also interpreted *ghe'tor lojmIt'a'Daq 'Iw bIQtIq ghoS* as *He goes along the River of Blood toward the great gates of Gre'thor*. Am I missing something? In a sentence like *raSDaq paq vIlan* I think of *raSDaq* as a destination where the book is moving to from my hand. In German this is expressed using the accusative (*auf den Tisch*), instead of the dative (*auf dem Tisch*), which is used for locations.

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Klingon Word of the Day: ngoS
by Klingon Word of the Day 04 Aug '23

04 Aug '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, August 04, 2023 Klingon word: ngoS Part of speech: verb Definition: dissolve Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: nugh
by Klingon Word of the Day 03 Aug '23

03 Aug '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, August 03, 2023 Klingon word: nugh Part of speech: noun Definition: society; group of people with shared culture Source: TKD (97 KE, 153 EK, KGT 221 KE, KGT 257 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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