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recording of Marc Okrand talk at Kopikon 2023
by De'vID 23 Oct '23

23 Oct '23

About a month ago, Dr. Okrand gave a talk at the Kopikon conlang conference. There's a recording of his talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P18XaCNXCmI&t=27636s Of particular interest is that he translated the name of the board game "Monopoly" into Klingon in case it was ever needed, though it ended up not being used. His translation was {ghatlhchu'ghach} "absolute dominance". You can see him talking about it at the 8:11:25 mark in the above video. -- De'vID

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech
by James Landau 23 Oct '23

23 Oct '23

>> Let's look at the "Body Functions" section of the Landau Core Vocabulary >> and see how many of these words we have in Klingon: > >That sounds like a good idea. To keep that list up to date, I have added >it to the Klingon wiki, so we can easily keep track of it. > >https://klingon.wiki/En/BodyFunctions majQa'! vImuSHa'! >Besides, could you please tell me more about that list? Was it your idea? Sure! Let me tell you the story. In November of 1997, I was spending Thanksgiving vacation at Grandmom Alyce's house when I got an idea: a list of words that conlangers could use when building the vocabularies for their conlangs, or that foreign language learners could study to make sure they'd have under their belts. There was Rick Harrison's ULD (see at https://www.frathwiki.com/Universal_Language_Dictionary in its current incarnation), but that lacked a lot of basic words; for instance, it didn't have "hungry" nor "thirsty". And I thought it odd that the ULD had "safflower" but not "elephant". I set to work at creating a basic list of 2,000 words. I relied on lists like the Rebecca Sitton spelling program's 1,200-word list to get the most common words. I also used the Spanish Picture Dictionary (you know, the one with Strongman Sam, Fifi, Henry, Ben, Bill, and the baby called Mimi/Zizi?) I arranged them by part of speech and by content area within each part of speech, and finished with 2,000 words. I named it the Landau Universal Vocabulary, which unintentionally shortened to LUV -- as in "luv", the cutesy way of spelling "love". In 1998, I put it up on my old Kankonian language/Lehola Galaxy site, which went down with the old Prodigy in 2002. In 2004, thoughts about a newer, bigger list with no round-number ceilings on number of words included brewed in my head. It would be divided into five parts, I decided: a Swadeshesque beginning part; function words, pronouns, adverbs, and grammatical concepts; numbers; and two lists of nouns, verbs, and adjectives (a Part IV with basic words and a Part V with more advanced words but covering more or less the same categories). Plus and appendix of proper names. This new list would be arranged by category, without the words being numbered, and would allow words of different parts of speech to be placed in the same vocabulary. On Christmas Day of 2006, I copied LUV and began on my long journey of turning it into something new. I called it the Landau Core Vocabulary, or LCV (yes, as in League of Conservation Voters). I remember that QISmaS jaj well, as I received a phone call from my best friend Lamesha that day. I broke the list into five parts, with categories in Parts II, IV, and V. That included creating a subset called the Basic 150 List (words like "mother", "cloud", and "to breathe"). On August 18, 2010, I started a thread on it on what was then the brand-new incarnation of Aevas' CBB (Conlanger Bulletin Board). Not all the kinks were out of it, yet; I still had a Miscellaneous section at the time. Ossicone, now the co-admin at the CBB, helped me fit the Miscellaneous words into categories and get rid of my Miscellaneous section. Over the next decade, the LCV grew. New sections, such as Air Travel, Space Travel, Sex, and Genetics and Biochemistry were added. I consulted dictionaries of German, Irish Gaelic, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Arabic, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese to find distinctions like "to sail (at the helm)" versus "to sail (as a passenger)". The size ballooned once I had found these distinctions, across English and twelve other languages, for all these words. I often bought foreign-language dictionaries from Barnes & Noble (and had to order my Oxford Russian dictionary through the post). By April 2014, the categories had been reworked considerably. Let's see if you recognize these "to be stuck" entries: to be stuck (be immovable: the door is stuck) to be stuck (be trapped, of a thing: the ring is stuck on my finge) to be stuck (be trapped, of a person: Paul got stuck in the bathtub) to be stuck (Alice was stuck in traffic) to be stuck (I'm stuck at school) to be stuck (I'm stuck with you) to be stuck (Ken is stuck on this math problem) In February of 2016, I reworked the Basic 150 List into a Basic 200 List, with some semantic splitting and some new words. (I had also dropped some words from the earlier list, such as the names of seasons, since not all cultures recognize spring, summer, autumn, and winter (the Ancient Egyptians didn't), or the words "wife" and "husband", since it's easy to conceive of an anthropic conpeople without the institution of marriage). I sent preliminary copies (as in the work I've done on it so far) to many other conlangers and language learners, including Ossicone, HTH, CarsonDaConlanger, Tom H. Chappell, MissTerry, dva_arla, Galen Buttitta, Larry R. Lowe, Andrew Mac, All4Ɇn, Kimbwidini, some guy named Junior from Brazil (who had used the original LUV to learn English), and even Larry Rogers. In March of 2019, I added a truckload of new words -- and a Part VI, for slang and conversation-only words (like "mm-hmm"). The vocabulary blossomed over the next few years adding words from corpora like COCA and IGCE and word lists like the Oxford 3,000 and iKnow.jp. Starting in December 2019, I've been posting the relevant categories from the LCV for each week of Lexember on the CBB. (Since 2021, I've been participating in word-building too -- with my conlang Shaleyan). As a sample of the LCV, here's a section (from Part IV) that's sure to be of interest to Klingons: Verbs of War. ===Verbs of War=== to fight (intransitive)* to fight (transitive) to mount (attack) to launch (a missile) to strike (torpedo, missiles) to defeat to conquer (a people) to overcome, to conquer (enemy forces) to take over to overthrow to recruit (soldiers) to occupy to invade to surround to surrender (oneself) to surrender (forfeit a town, kingdom, etc.) to capture (enemy, prisoner) to seize, to capture (land, fort) to attack (the enemy in war) to defend to resist (an enemy country/army/faction) to move (troops) to be killed, to die (an untimely death) to advance (an army) to retreat to win (a battle/war) to lose (a battle/war) The LCV now stands at 12,419 entries + 1,000 names. And that, my friends, is the story of the Landau Core Vocabulary. >Message: 5>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 18:29:37 +0200 >From: "Lieven L. Litaer" <levinius(a)gmx.de> >To: tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org >Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech >Message-ID: <0e1686f5-4816-dc3c-5b9d-434133586994(a)gmx.de> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >Am 20.10.2023 um 04:36 schrieb James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol: >> Let's look at the "Body Functions" section of the Landau Core Vocabulary >> and see how many of these words we have in Klingon: > >That sounds like a good idea. To keep that list up to date, I have added >it to the Klingon wiki, so we can easily keep track of it. > >Besides, could you please tell me more about that list? Was it your idea? > >https://klingon.wiki/En/BodyFunctions

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Klingon Word of the Day: lachvoH
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Oct '23

23 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, October 23, 2023 Klingon word: lachvoH Part of speech: noun Definition: bee hive Source: qepHom 2022 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: DID
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Oct '23

23 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, October 20, 2023 Klingon word: DID Part of speech: verb Definition: be sterotypical Source: qep'a' 30 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Apposition in the *paq'batlh*
by luis.chaparro＠web.de 22 Oct '23

22 Oct '23

*qatlh ngemDaq ghaHtaH molor Duy'e' marqagh puqloD’e’ Hop juHlIj nov* What is an envoy of Molor, Son of Markag, doing in these woods? You are far away from home, stranger. (paq'yav 3, 1-3) Maybe I'm understanding this wrong, but wouldn't that mean that the envoy is the son of Markag? Since *'e'* gives us the reference for *ghaHtaH*, *ghaHtaH* = *molor Duy'* and *ghaHtaH* = *marqagh puqloD*: He is an envoy of Molor and he is the son of Markag. Shouldn't it have been something like *molor marqagh puqloD Duy'e'*? Or maybe *molor Duy'e' marqagh puqloD Duy'e'*? By the way: A bit later we see *molor QaS HoS* for *The men of mighty Molor*. Why isn't it *molor HoS QaS*? Thank you for your help!

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Klingon Word of the Day: Do'Ha'
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Oct '23

22 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, October 22, 2023 Klingon word: Do'Ha' Part of speech: verb Definition: be unfortunate Source: TKD:coverpage This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech
by James Landau 21 Oct '23

21 Oct '23

>SEE ALSO: >ruq belch (v) >Hob yawn (v) >tlhov wheeze (v) >jev wheeze (v) >chuy sneeze (v) >largh smell, sense odors (v) Let's look at the "Body Functions" section of the Landau Core Vocabulary and see how many of these words we have in Klingon: to hurt, to ache, to feel pain: 'oy' to feel (organically): jem to breathe*: tlhuH to eat* (of people): Sop to eat (polite term, used only of other people): Sop to eat (of animals): Sop to swallow: ghup to chew (of people): yIv to chew (of animals): yIv to munch on: ??? to digest: rID to drink*: tlhutlh to drink (alcohol): ??? to leave (not eat/drink: John left one chocolate): ??? to smoke: por pur to vape: ??? to inject (heroin): QIn to inject (medicine): QIn to lick: roS to lick (one’s plate): roS to lick (stamp): roS to take (medicine): ??? to overdose: ??? to choke: voQ to starve (suffer from hunger): ??? to starve (die from hunger): ??? to sleep*: Qong to fall asleep: ??? to wake up: vem to rest: leS to pass out: vulchoH? to suffer (be in pain): bech to cough: tuS to sneeze: chuy to burp, to belch: ruq to yawn: Hob to hiccough: bur to snore: wuD to suck: rem to suck (at a nipple): rem? to suck (one’s thumb): rem? to spit: tlhepQe' tuy' to spit (of cat, camel): tlhepQe' tuy' to drool: bol to run (of a nose) to vomit, to throw up, to puke: 'em to urinate, to pee, to piss, to make water, to take a leak, to empty one’s bladder: turmIq vuj to defecate, to take a dump, to do one’s business, to have a bowel movement, to poop: qeQ vuj to break wind, to fart, to pass gas: Qep'It vuj to bleed: regh to sweat, to perspire: HID to cool off (person): ??? to shiver: ??? to breast-feed, to nurse: ??? to beat (of the heart): ??? to flow (of blood): ghIt to heal (intransitive): ??? to stretch (for relaxing muscles): ??? to stretch (to reach something): ??? to stretch (one’s legs): ??? to wipe (one’s hand): ??? to wipe (one’s nose): ??? to wipe (sweat from one’s forehead): ??? to bite (one’s nails): chop to bite (of a fish at a hook): chop to shed (skin): ??? to lay (eggs): ??? to die (of an animal): Hegh to die (of a plant): Hegh And a few body function verbs from the "Sex" section: to have sex (with), to sleep with, to make love (to), to copulate, to fornicate, to screw, to do it: ngagh to menstruate, to have one’s period: chI to ejaculate: ghuch -- Well, kind of. We have a request for "sperm" at the chabal tetlh, so we'll be able to say *[sperm] vuj*. Until then, *ghuch* is the best we can do. So we've got most of the body function words. majQa'! No surprise, since these are blood-and-guts basic concepts that are pretty culture-neutral for anthropic sapient species. (Well, not "vape".) >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:09:35 +0000 >From: Steven Boozer <sboozer(a)uchicago.edu> >To: "tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org" <tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org> >Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech >Message-ID:

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Klingon Word of the Day: lIngwaDepIlane'ta Hol
by Klingon Word of the Day 21 Oct '23

21 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, October 21, 2023 Klingon word: lIngwaDepIlane'ta Hol Part of speech: noun Definition: Lingwa de Planeta Source: qep'a' 30, Toki Pona: The Language of Good This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: rech
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Oct '23

19 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, October 19, 2023 Klingon word: rech Part of speech: verb Definition: exhale Source: HQ:v12n4p8 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: Daqrab
by Klingon Word of the Day 18 Oct '23

18 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, October 18, 2023 Klingon word: Daqrab Part of speech: noun Definition: well Source: The Little Prince This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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