September 2019 - tlhIngan-Hol

placement of {-be'} relative to the {-pu'} and {-ta'}
by mayqel qunen'oS 19 Sep '19

19 Sep '19

I've always wondered with regards to the placement of the {-be'} relative to the {-pu'} and {-ta'}. As far as the {-pu'} is concerned, since the tkd has the Ca'Non example of {vIta'pu'be'}, I decided to *always* write {-pu'be'} instead of {-be'pu'}. Before I continue, does anyone have something to comment on the above ? And now I continue.. However, I'm still puzzled as far as the placement of the {-be'} relative to the {-ta'} is concerned. So far, I just flipped a coin in order to decide.. But since there are days, when you reach into your pocket without finding any change, I'd like to ask: Are there any Ca'Non examples of the {-be'} relative to the {-ta'} ? And if there aren't, then what the @!#! should I do ? ~ m. qunen'oS

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ordering of multiple adverbials
by mayqel qunen'oS 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Read the following paq'batlh sentences, mentioned by nIqolay Q at another thread: > loDnI'wI' > bIQeHba' > chaq batlh bIvangqa'laH > My brother, I see your anger, > You might have a chance > To make amends. (p. 100-101) > jatlh 'e' mevDI' qeylIS, lop > chaq tugh batlh Heghmo' > 'ej chaq tugh charghmo' > After Kahless’s words, they celebrate, > For they may soon die with honor! > For they may soon be victorious! (p. 120-121) > jIlay'ta' 'ej batlh jIpabta' > vaj choDanIS > reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH > I have kept my word of honor, > And so should you, > Let endless battle and honor await them! (p. 150-151) > Hay'chu' luneHqu' > vaj pe'vIl joqqu' > cha' tlhIngan tIqDu' > Both Klingon hearts beat, > At their strongest, > In lust for blood. (p. 166-167) Now, @!#!@#!! the english translations, and lets focus on the klingon ones. I get the impression from reading the sentences of the original klingon, that the adverbial written last, is the most important one, as far as the meaning of the sentence is concerned. Does anyone want to comment anything on this impression of mine ? ~ bara'qa'

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Klingon Word of the Day: woj
by Klingon Word of the Day 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, September 17, 2019 Klingon word: woj Part of speech: verb Definition: sterilize Source: TKD-A (185 KE, 190 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: mu'ghom
by Klingon Word of the Day 16 Sep '19

16 Sep '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, September 16, 2019 Klingon word: mu'ghom Part of speech: noun Definition: dictionary Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: teq
by Klingon Word of the Day 16 Sep '19

16 Sep '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, September 15, 2019 Klingon word: teq Part of speech: verb Definition: remove, take off Source: TKD (109 KE, 149 EK, 156 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: Hong boq chuyDaH
by Klingon Word of the Day 16 Sep '19

16 Sep '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, September 13, 2019 Klingon word: Hong boq chuyDaH Part of speech: noun Definition: impulse fusion thrusters Source: This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: SuqSIv
by Klingon Word of the Day 16 Sep '19

16 Sep '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, September 14, 2019 Klingon word: SuqSIv Part of speech: noun Definition: core (of an apple, planet, sun, but not a group) Source: qepHom 2015 p.12 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Combining adverbials
by Hugh Son puqloD 14 Sep '19

14 Sep '19

Do we have any canon examples of sentences with multiple adverbials? For example: {nom Sop} {tlhoy nom Sop} {pIj tlhoy nom Sop} {ghaytan pIj tlhoy nom Sop} If we do have evidence of multiple adverbials in the same sentence, do we have enough examples to know how scoping works? For example, if multiple adverbials can be used together (and I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t be), I would expect something like: {tlhoy nom Sop} - They eat too quickly {nom tlhoy Sop} - They quickly eat excessively

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expressing "fan of the klingon language"
by mayqel qunen'oS 13 Sep '19

13 Sep '19

I started to wonder about this, while I was writing the previous post.. tlhIngan Hol vIlle' a fan of the klingon language maj.. Is the {Hol} necessary ? Just what the @!#!@!! means {tlhIngan} ? Can I say {tlhIngan vIlle'} for "a fan of the klingon language" ? ~ bara'qa'

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This is what I like most in Okrand..
by mayqel qunen'oS 13 Sep '19

13 Sep '19

fse: Okrand has managed to do something which is quite impressive; he managed to create an entire language from scratch, a language with which we can say almost anything. And the more I write/think in klingon, the more convinced I become, that by the exception of passages requiring specialized terminology, there is nothing, absolutely nothing one can't say in klingon. So, okrand's accomplishment is quite impressive. However, okrand has achieved something which is even greater; his name will live on.. As long as there are constructed languages, people will learn his name as the creator of the klingon language. But nothing of these, is what I really like in him. The thing I like most, is that he actually cares for the fans of klingon. Many people in his place, could think: "now that I have created one of the most famous constructed languages, why should I bother with continuing to create more Ca'Non ?" Many people in his place, could think: "why should I care that an insignificant fan, receives a new word ?" But luckily, okrand doesn't think this way, and as the years go by, he continues creating Ca'Non, and most importantly he really cares that the fans of his language, receive new words, words that they wish for. Okrand makes the fans of his language feel cared for, and this is what I like most in him, and one of the reasons I've never regretted using so much time of my personal life, in order to learn his language. tlh: Dojbogh vay' chavta' 'oqranD; chu'chu'bogh Hol naQ chenmoHta' 'e' chav, 'ej Holvam wIlo'taHvIS HochHom wIDellaH. 'ej jIghItlhtaHvIS, ('ej tlhIngan Hol vIlo'taHvIS), wa' vIt vItlhojchoHtaH; tlhIngan Hol wIlo'taHvIS, Hoch wIDellaH. vay' wIDelmeH, tlhach mu'mey DIghajnISchugh, vaj vay'vam wIDellaHbe'.. 'a Hoch latlhmey DIDellaHbej, tlhIngan Hol wIlo'taHvIS. vaj, Dojbej 'oqranD chav. 'ach, latlh chav chavta' 'oqranD; 'ej chavvam Dun law' chav vorgh Dun puS; qaStaHvIS tuch Hoch, reH pongDaj luqaw nuvpu'. Holmey luchenmoHta'bogh tu'lu'taHvIS, reH Sov nuvpu': 'oqranD ghaH tlhIngan Hol chenmoHwI''e'. 'ach, 'oqranD bopbogh latlh ngoDmo', 'oqranD vIparHa'qu'; tlhIngan Hol vIlle' Qorghbejmo' 'oqranD, 'oqranD vIparHa'qu'. 'oqranD ghaH latlh nuv'e', net jalchugh, chaq Qub nuvvam: ..Holmey'e' luchenmoHta'bogh tlhIngan Hol noy law' latlhmey noy puS. qatlh vaj latlh Ca'Non vIchennISmoH ?.. 'oqranD ghaH latlh nuv'e', net jalchugh, chaq Qub nuvvam: ..mu' chu' Hev tlhIngan Hol vIlle' ram, qatlh 'e' vISaHnIS ? 'a, Do', jaSHa' Qubbe' 'oqranD, 'ej qaStaHvIS DISmey, Ca'Non chenmoH, 'ej mu'mey chu' (mu'mey'e' neHbogh vIlle'pu') HevmeH tlhIngan Hol vIlle'pu', SaH. nuQorgh 'oqranD 'e' luHarmoH tlhIngan Hol vIlle'pu', 'ej 'oqranDmo' bel vIlle'pu'vam. meqvammo' 'oqranD vIparHa'qu'. tlhIngan Hol vIghojmeH, law'qu'bogh poHwIj tlhIn vIlo'nISpu', 'ach not 'e' vIpay, nuQorghmo' 'oqranD. ~ changan qIj

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