January 2019 - tlhIngan-Hol

qepHom 2018 - bugs and insects
by Lieven L. Litaer 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

The words we received from Maltz for this year's qepHom were not sorted by any system. I tried to arrange them by topics, which I will use in the subject line, so the discussions about the words are also sorted. voDchuch – This is a pretty large spider-like thing. It has nine legs usually but sometimes seven or eight – never fewer than seven unless the bug has been injured. A big spider on Earth would be a {tera' voDchuch}, but a small spider would not be a {voDchuch}. 'I' ghew – a bug that sort of resembles a beetle. This is two words. Humlaw' – like a ghargh, but with lots of wiggly legs 'obray'wal – This sort of resembles a scorpion; it runs really fast in a seemingly haphazard way and has a dangerous (sharp and poisonous) tail. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWordsQepHom2018

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ghop Hol
by Will Martin 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

ghop Hol vIghojlI’. DIS bID cha’DIch ghojmeH ghom vIjeS. chaq Dumer ngoDvam: pImqu’ 'amerI’qa’ngan Hol jatlhlu'bogh amerI’qa’ngan ghop Hol je. ‘amerIqa’Daq QoylaHbe’wI’pu’vaD vIranSe’ngan ghop Hol lo’ DuSaQ wa’DIch. DuSaQDaq ghomDI’ QoylaHbe’bogh puqpu’, mu’ghom pab je choHmoH ‘amerIqa’ngan puqpu’. juH mu’mey chel. qaS poH. choH Hol. qatlh vIranSe’ngan ghop Hol lo’? ‘amerIqa’Daq QoylaHbe’bogh puqpu’vaD chenDI’ DuSaQ wa'DIch, [England]Daq ghop Hol lo’Qo’ DuSaQ. wuSDu’ laDnIS ghojwI’pu’. roD wejmaH vatlhvI’ mu’mey luyajlaHlu’ wuSDu’ laDtaHvIS. Qoy’eghlaHbe’taHvIS ghojwI’pu’, jatlhnIS. moghchu’bogh ghojwI’pu’ SaHbe’ ghojmoHwI’pu’. QIp QoylaHbe’wI’pu’ net Har. loQ yajlaHchugh, maj. qay’be’. vIranSe’Daq QoylaHbe’bogh puqpu’vaD ghop Hol lo’ DuSaQ. vaj vIranSe’vo’ ‘ameriqa’Daq ghoS vIranSe’ngan ghop Hol. rut choHbe’ mu'mey qubHa’. [P]vaD ghop “shape” lo’ mu’ {noj}. [L]vaD ghop “shape” lo’be’. [prêter] ‘oH vIranSe’ngan mu’’e'. [lend] ‘oH ‘amerI’qangan mu’’e’. [C]vaD ghop “shape” lo’ mu’ {nej}. vIranSe’ngan mu’ ‘oH [chercher]’e’. wot [to be] Hutlh ghop Hol. rur tlhIngan Hol. {tlhIngan jIH} yajlaH ASL jatlhwI’, ‘ach {jIH tlhIngan} qoj {jIH tlhIngan jIH} jatlhlu’ je. not jatlh ASL jatlhwI’ {jIghungmo’ Soj vInej.} qaq {Soj vInej. qatlh? jIghung.} not jatlh ASL jatlhwI’ {jIlaD, ghIq jISop.} qaq {jIlaD. pItlh. jISop.} Holvam vItIvqu’. charghwI’ ‘utlh SKI: charghwI’ talks about American Sign Language and how it differs from spoken English.

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Joining two questions with {pagh}
by Will Martin 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

On 1/4/2019 10:46 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: > I am wondering, whether it is actually correct to join two "yes or no" > questions with {pagh}. > > If I write {Sojvam vIpar'a' pagh Sojvam vIparHa''a'} for "do I like > this food or do I dislike it ?" > > Then would it be an acceptable construction ? While I agree with others that we don’t know whether or not it’s an acceptable construction, it seems like it would be nice to offer some alternatives. Mostly, it doesn’t seem very stylistically succinct. It’s a remarkable number of redundant words. You aren’t adding any additional information to the basic {Sojvam vIpar’a’?} Answering that question with “yes” or “no” gives exactly the same information as answering which of the two opposite questions gets a “yes”. If you want to convey ambivalence, then just say so: {Sojvam vIpar ‘e’ vISIv.} It’s not really a question. You are simply indicating that you haven’t made your mind up. Okrand spoke once about the verb {SIv} with Sentence As Object in HolQeD. He didn’t go into much detail. charghwI’ ‘utlh

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The Rudellian plague
by mayqel qunenoS 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

Recently I came across the Ca'NoN sentence: {qarDaSQa'Daq ruDelya' rop'a' Hergh qengbogh yo' Dabot} Reading it at first, I found it to be pretty straightforward and unremarkable. But soon it hit me; If I was asked to translate it without knowing the given Ca'NoN translation, I would write: {qarDaSQa'Daq ruDelya' rop'a' Hergh qengbogh yo' Dabot} At Cardassia, intercept the fleet which carries the rudellian plague relief However, the Ca'NoN translation goes: {qarDaSQa'Daq ruDelya' rop'a' Hergh qengbogh yo' Dabot} Intercept rudellian plague relief convoy to cardassian union In other words, the way I read initially the sentence was: qarDaSQa'Daq (ruDelya' rop'a' Hergh qengbogh yo' Dabot) But the way this sentence is read in Ca'NoN is: (qarDaSQa'Daq ruDelya' rop'a' Hergh qengbogh yo') Dabot According to my interpretation, the interception takes place at cardassia According to Ca'NoN, Cardassia isn't the "where" is this interception takes place, but the destination of the plague relief convoy. According to my interpretation, the {-Daq}ed noun refers to the verb of the sentence {Dabot}. According to Ca'NoN, the {-Daq}ed noun refers to the {-bogh} clause. Assuming my analysis so far is correct, I realize something I hadn't realized so far; that a {-Daq}ed noun, doesn't have to necessarily refer to the verb of the sentence, but it can refer to a {-bogh} clause instead. On one hand, I'm happy to realize that Ca'NoN allows for this kind of "freedom" in interpreting the scope of a {-Daq}ed noun, however if this hand becomes a fist, I wonder how the reader would understand which of these two interpretations of a {-Daq}ed noun, is actually intended, unless the translation isn't provided as well. ~ mayqel *I love maltz* qunen'oS

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Klingon Word of the Day: yoD
by Klingon Word of the Day 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, January 29, 2019 Klingon word: yoD Part of speech: noun Definition: shield Source: TKD (115 KE, 152 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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YAKL (Yet Another Klingon Localization): Joan
by Alan Anderson 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

https://getjoan.com/blog/joan-klingon/ Joan is the name of a meeting room scheduling program with specialized displays. I happened upon the company web site a while ago, and noticed they had some Klingon in their rotation of pictures showing off their support of multiple languages. They had obviously used Bing translator, so I sent them a friendly grumble and offered to help them if they wanted to support Klingon for real. They said yes. The advertising pictures haven't yet been updated to show the corrected UI text, but they tell me the Klingon resource strings are in the software. -- ghunchu'wI'

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Klingon Word of the Day: Som
by Klingon Word of the Day 28 Jan '19

28 Jan '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, January 27, 2019 Klingon word: Som Part of speech: noun Definition: hull Source: TKD (108 KE, 137 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: javtIm
by Klingon Word of the Day 28 Jan '19

28 Jan '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, January 28, 2019 Klingon word: javtIm Part of speech: noun Definition: virus Source: qep'a' 23 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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tera'ngan mu'qaD veS
by De'vID 28 Jan '19

28 Jan '19

I was recently introduced to BBC Radio 1's Playground Insults. It's basically a Terran version of {mu'qaD veS}. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bbc+playground+insults Activity for the next {qep'a'}? -- De'vID

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Klingon Word of the Day: puqnI'be'
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Jan '19

26 Jan '19

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, January 26, 2019 Klingon word: puqnI'be' Part of speech: noun Definition: granddaughter Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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